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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Is the players union backing him? What a way for him to finish his career, could only happen at Halifax.'"
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| Quote ="justthebasicfax"What concerns me is Stanley has been a fantastic servant to RL and every club hes been at, hes a legend in the game, why has it all gone pear shaped at Halifax? of all places, it would have to be Halifax with our recent record.'"
Yes, I have to agree on that one but we can't make informed judgements unless we know all the facts.
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| I have heard a few things that may explain why the club wanted shut but I agree, this could only happen at Halifax, scew up the relationship with a legend of the game and one who will hold a lot of influence over 'PNG and South Sea Island' rugby players. Might even stop the Sonny Bill transfer from happening eh Haighy?
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"Might even stop the Sonny Bill transfer from happening eh Haighy?'"
Nop, he's a Kiwi
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Is the players union backing him? What a way for him to finish his career, could only happen at Halifax.'"
For me that is the main disappointing aspect of this. Stan has been a great servant to rugby league and it would be a shame for his career to end on this note, but to be honest we could have had half a dozen super league juniors for a year for what Stan and Makka would have been paid and maybe would have had a better return.
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| Totally agree with you on that one. Shame some of the other lads have had to forgo chances so "bigger" named players get to play.
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| Fine let him take us, but i would like to think the club have followed all the correct procedures as we do have a soliciter on the board, and not left them self wide open
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| Quote ="Soldier Daz"Fine let him take us, but i would like to think the club have followed all the correct procedures as we do have a soliciter on the board, and not left them self wide open
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I agree, but this is a RFL tribunal we are talking about. They wont miss a chance to screw us with our pants on!
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| I despair. If this forum were a pub and the posters were customers having a discussion at the bar, and I walked in, after listening for 10 minutes I'd walk out again and never go back in.
This thread contains not one ounce of support for the people who run 'your' Club, who have no doubt taken the decision they did in the best interests of it, and - especially given that the Chairman is quite an expert in legal matters - with lawful reasons.
Of course Stanley's going to be advised by his agent to challenge it - he wants money, but the RFL can't simply overturn something because it would be an opportunity to have a pop at Halifax! A lot of people on here seem to have serious persecution complexes - get some therapy people!
The sad thing for me is not that 'Stanley will tell his friends not to come' ( ), but that our relationship with David Howes may be strained, and falling out with agents is far worse than falling out with players.
And... when are people going to realize that we haven't a cat in hell's chance of getting a franchise next round anyway not because the RFL hate us, but simply because we're not ready for it, couldn't compete in it, and it could kill off our Club once and for all.
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| We are ready for superleague next time round, fair enough it would be hard to start with but better than waiting for another 3 years to be refused again, Its better to be in it than out of it. Who says we are not going to go down the pan in the next 3 years, Leigh, should have been relegated last year, Widnes are struggleing with results this year, Whitehaven who have always been a top 5 side are going down.
Its a cliche but you got to be in it to win it.
As for Michael Steele, he was not a Lawyer in employment Law was he ?. Nope, I believe it was Corperate law or something like that i was told last night.
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| That penultimate paragraph is very true. I'm worried about that too.
However....perhaps we may have had too many eggs in this particular agent's basket in the last few years.
Which has led to us signing one or two who haven't come up to expectations.
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| Quote ="Ackropj" As for Michael Steele, he was not a Lawyer in employment Law was he ?. Nope, I believe it was Corperate law or something like that i was told last night.'"
Michael Steele was a general solicitor who had a wide range of experience. Stephen Bonfield is an expert in employment law and would probably have given advice in this case.
Interesting that 'you were told' something (which is not correct) and chose to believe it rather than trust that the Board know what they're doing.
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| Going of this last year, The board have hardly proved their weight in gold now have they, Posner in, Posner Out, clay out, Martin Hall threw himself on the Sword to prevent Calland from going, ( He will be back ) Challenge Cup debarkle.
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| I don't see what "weight in gold" has to do with the board.
If it did then me, Officeboy and Nigel Wood would be welcomed onto it with open arms...........
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| Quote ="Ackropj" Posner in, Posner Out, '"
I am the "hokey cokey" director.
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| are ya just shaking it all about at the minute ,pmsl
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| Quote ="Officeboy"I despair. If this forum were a pub and the posters were customers having a discussion at the bar, and I walked in, after listening for 10 minutes I'd walk out again and never go back in.
This thread contains not one ounce of support for the people who run 'your' Club, who have no doubt taken the decision they did in the best interests of it, and - especially given that the Chairman is quite an expert in legal matters - with lawful reasons.
Of course Stanley's going to be advised by his agent to challenge it - he wants money, but the RFL can't simply overturn something because it would be an opportunity to have a pop at Halifax! A lot of people on here seem to have serious persecution complexes - get some therapy people!
The sad thing for me is not that 'Stanley will tell his friends not to come' (
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And... when are people going to realize that we haven't a cat in hell's chance of getting a franchise next round anyway not because the RFL hate us, but simply because we're not ready for it, couldn't compete in it, and it could kill off our Club once and for all.'"
I guess i should come back in here as i was the one that started this thread.
Yes we know that the club maybe doing what is best for the club in the end and Stan may challenge it. my point is though.
Just because they are doing it for the good of the club doesn't mean the reputation of club is going to be any less affected and after the challenge cup incident we needed to stay out of the spotlight for the rest of the season, that does not mean i am saying we should have just kept a player we couldnt afford just to protect the image of the club, maybe there was a better way to go about things, it tells me that what ever the problem was it was serious because it could'nt wait till the end of the season, we had him not too long but we only actually let him go 5 or 6 weeks from the end f the season, surely if the club could they would have found a way to get to the end of the season and not agree to the 2nd year.
now the reputation of the club has been effected this season with a couple of inncidents, as for the Franchise, Widnes will be selected FACT, the RFL will be looking for reasons why Halifax and Leigh should'nt get it, for me Halifax have given the RFL all the fire power they needed to deny us, now you might think that these points dont have much to do with it. it gives the RFL the impression that.
A. the club didnt check to see whether the player was cup tied, the player didnt mention it either,
b. the club isnt very organised and cant control the finances, IF indeed money was a small issue, not the main issue.
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| Quote ="Piston Broke"I don't see what "weight in gold" has to do with the board.
If it did then me, Officeboy and Nigel Wood would be welcomed onto it with open arms...........'"
They would need to be widely out-stretched arms to embrace you three lovers
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| Widnes will be selected FACT
Where does it say this then, FACT is, its what we all think and believe in our hearts is going to happen, However we dont know this, Just hope and prey we get looked at properly.
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| Quote ="Ackropj"Widnes will be selected FACT
Where does it say this then, FACT is, its what we all think and believe in our hearts is going to happen, However we dont know this, Just hope and prey we get looked at properly.'"
they will look at us, they have to when we put a bid in but most on here know its Widnes's turn,
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| If an inability to control finances was a significant factor then the likes of Hull KR and Crusaders would be as good as relegated.
Some of the other clubs may not stand up to detailed scrutiny in this area either.
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| I don't doubt the sincerity and good intentions of those that have run the club past or present. Sadly that sincerity and those good intentions have not prevented some major howlers. In this instance, however, I would expect Messrs Steele and Bonfield to have ticked all the boxes so we should win the case but it doesn't stop Stanley Gene having a go.
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| What a horrid little insight this thread has become...
Defensive or what!?
Who selects and employs the people on the payroll. Who prepares and proposes, who manages projects, where does the vision become a plan.
Its not the fans last time i checked, but they are an integral part. The Club can have no hard luck or best intentions about it. It goes with the territory.
Good luck tonight, looking forward to it.
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| York are attempting to sign Stanley Gene for the rest of the season
[url=http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/sport/yorkcityknights/8299244.Knights_in_bid_to_bring_Stanley_Gene_to_Huntington_Stadium/Report Here[/url
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| hard to fall out with agents as it all comes down to money in my opinion. offer a player more n the bigger cut for them. as in football, the place would be a lot better without them.
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