Widnes and Toulouse are the front runners.

we just don't fit into the new "Expantion" super league

Just Widnes.

Toulouse are nowhere near. It'll be Widnes in, Salford out in a very ordinary hum drum round of franchises. 2015 will be more controversial i reckon - depending on by how much Championship clubs improve their lot or how much the SL strugglers have capitulated through inactivity.

i think if even less inactivity by some of those in SL and RFL do nothing can see the game going to the courts to get justice.

Who's going to take the RFL to court? I don't think even Alan Rowley would be that daft. Dessie might do it - just for a laugh

I meant Toulouse would be ahead of us just on location.

Widnes will be there though in the end

Widnes are being massively over-confident with their recent press releases. Talk about jumping the gun.
Hasn't anyone noticed that Sheffield Eagles are moving to Bramall Lane in the next few weeks? I wonder why? A club in South Yorkshire playing in an enormous stadium that could be used for Test matches and Challenge Cup semi-finals would, I reckon, be a very attractive proposition for Super League.
Toulouse and Sheffield for Super League in 2012, mark my words.
Super League don't want Widnes, they would have been given a franchise last time if that hadn't been the case.

But no crowds to speak of. Bramall Lane isn't half going to echo.

Don't think the people who hand out the franchises give a monkey's about crowd figures. After all, they did let Celtic Crusaders in last time.

Maybe not, but they will use crowd figures as a reason NOT to award a franchise to the ones they don't want in.

We can apply but have we really any chance of getting a licence? I doubt we have this time around because we havnt acted on what the RFL wanted us to act on.

God only knows. I admired Karl as a player and he was a legend at Fax. But he did nowt at Salford and got sacked, and Batley are no great shakes. You have to laugh at folk's adoration, tho, it is quite funny ....

I would rather not have Harrison. I would prefer to have an Australian. The British Coaches are in the main simply not great and they often lack what it takes to make a team successful in SL-which is where we are suppossed to be heading. Dave Woods is maybe one. Think Mike Hagan is free though doubt he would come.

Do you think we could afford Mick Hagan?

No idea. But if you do not ask you do not get!

Widnes didnt get a franchise last time cause Celtic Crusaders as they were called were an expantion club, only reason.

worse ground
lower attendances

shows that was the only reason.

if they only take 1 though i feel maybe they wont turn Widnes down again.

Doubt it. Cas & Wakey are the two under threat now unless their new Grounds have started. Salford too could be in trouble but they are looking further forward there with building work starting this year & mega funding in place. HKR could be longshots to go with that big debt so Fax not out of it as Grounds seem to be #1 on the agenda.

How much is he on at the moment? I would hazard a guess Calland is on more.

Maybe franchising will be scrapped.

Would be universally popular that Frank

Did Salford Break the Top 6 of Super League under Rhino.i believe he did it before Simms arrived, then it went down hill.Maybe if he carried on alone, they would have got higher.
Batley are better shakes than you give them credit for.........Hilarious.

Anyway, enough of Halifax's problems - what's going on at your clubs? Do you think McClennan's on his way out? Is Mcnamara still on a sticky wicket? It's all crisis crisis crisis isn't it? It's enough to make you jump ship again. Please allow me to introduce you to the Huddersfield Giants - playing out of the Galpharm Stadium............................

He won't follow them now after the spanking they got from Saints.

Then he's running out of clubs. He may be lost to the game forever

How Ste Mac's still got a job just beggars belief.

Indeed. Compare his tenure to Matt Callands? Jeez - some of our fans would have splattered their walls with blood from their vessels if they'd have to wait that long ........................ and still counting!