Here: m.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/cald ... -1-6926919 Not really sure of intent behind this. Some people won't be best pleased that it wasn't all Tony Abbott's doing

Here: m.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/cald ... -1-6926919 Not really sure of intent behind this. Some people won't be best pleased that it wasn't all Tony Abbott's doing

shhhhhhh

It's incredibly badly written as well!

Well spotted David, you will see the stupid Neanderthals have started already.
Note the time of posts, they are obviously not returning from Wrexham,
Bubba and Dangermouse will post on here later, so they will think that we think they went to Wrexham.

Does anyone have a link to the previous article in the Courier? They mention it on the soccer forum. Be nice to see both sides of the courier's reporting

Is this going to be a tit for tat boring thread,
The HRLFC directors have been cleared of any underhand dealings. If the FC HT 'fans' come on here we should just ignore whatever they write and not be tempted into giving them the satisfaction of getting us to retaliate, lets keep our dignity and the moral high ground.

Just tried to look on numpties forum won't let me in. Probably because everything they say on there is liable . Set of losers. Shame their fans are idiots because I like to see my home town team do well.


Even going to the Bradford city match. Won't wear my fax shirt though. Don't want trouble from town fans.

More chance of getting hastle from town tan fans if seen in fax Shirt than Bradford fans. How sad us that.

One town two teams.

Nah. They're decent enough folks. I'm sure they're working on a statement retracting all they've said about Tony Abbott and formulating an official written apology to Tony Abbott.

Or wiping egg off their faces whilst looking for another victim of their vitriol

Wouldn't hold my breath on the first one or I would be dead.

Go on, hold your breath Neil.

Thanks a lot john. I thought we were friends

There certainly hasnt been any moral high ground gained or dignity kept in this whole sorry saga if we are brutally honest.

Did the council try and get rid of the Shay as fast as they could? IMO I think they did.
Did Tony Abbott become a bit of a fall guy? I think he did if I am honest. It appears the council were quite persuasive in trying to get him to bid.
Did he deserve the personal abuse he got? No. He didnt kill anyone so IMO he didnt deserve the level of abuse he got.
Would TA have been better keeping his mouth shut? Without a doubt.
Did TA lie about certain things over the timeline of the proposed sale? He stated he had nothing to do with payday loans, it was then proved otherwise so make your own minds up.
Can we honestly say after everything has come out we would want TA owning the Shay? I dont think we can, especially after it was mentioned about selling the ground for future redevelopments.
Anyone think the handling of the non payment of rent issue was done well? Not a chance, they had and still have their reasons but it does not look good when they simply stopped paying their rent. If theres a dispute I guess at a push you could get away with it but do that and ringfence the money that should have been paid. In not doing that the club comes off very badly.

The thing is though in all this the 2 clubs have to work together to make the Shay viable and self sufficient to either the council or another buyer to safe guard the futures of both clubs and make it so eventually both clubs actually can make money from the ground other than just from gate takings. That simply cant happen as things stand with relationships at an all time low between the two clubs.

Bubba wont be happy, how dare there be gossip whilst he's in Edinburgh

This

We are friends.

I thought you were quite intelligent Brett

Thanks

hope you had fun in Edinburgh

Great time mate, thanks.

As for this thread...nobody ever assumed it was ALL Tony Abbott’s doing. In fact, from very early days it was known that Mr Abbott’s interest initially began with the South/East annexe before then been invited to make an offer for the Shay estate as a whole. All the FOI response did was confirm what we already knew and all the Courier article is doing is putting right their rather inept article from the week before.

How have the HRLFC directors been cleared of any underhand dealing? There was a deal to sell the Shay for a pittance being negotiated in secret (underhand) which did not offer good value for the local tax payer and was not in the best interests of ‘our’ clubs for the long term. The fact that Aiden Jewitt proposed a share in profits should Reactiv sell the stadium for development is just one example.

Your man (and many of his followers on here who believed they were in the know) were adamant that the deal was done and took great delight in thinking so - I remember fondly the childlike giddiness of some. All this was done without any consideration for the football club yet Neil earlier in this thread naively says “one town, two clubs”.

Michael Steele said in the Courier that he knew nothing of any deal yet the FOI responses prove otherwise.

Mr Abbott’s claim at the public meeting in the East Stand that he was in no way connected to Pay Day Loan companies was proven to be incorrect. The Council have their own policy of not dealing with such companies!

The rent issue has been a total farce. Being locked out of the stadium for not paying rent for over a year is quite embarrassing. Firstly Mr Abbott was apparently hoping to tie the rent into his deal to buy the Shay so was refusing to pay a tactic to try force the Council’s hand or purely because the club was skint? Once the deal was a no go thanks to the ACV it still went unpaid for a few months until the CMBC finally grew some balls and got tougher with the club.

We then had Mr Steele in the Courier saying the level of rent Fax were paying was unfair due to the greater use of the Shay facilities FCHT has, yet once again this was proven to be disingenuous by a further FOI response.

The football club have kept their own counsel pretty much throughout all of this even though both messrs Abbott and Steele have tried to drag them into it. In fact I think the FCHT board have spoken only once about the whole affair and that was after Tony Abbott had made false claims.

Take the rose tinted spectacles off and you will see what a total shambles the whole thing has been from start to finish. The Council, Fax, Reactiv and yes, on occasions, certain quarters from both sets of supporters (me included). Yet to say you can keep your dignity and hold the moral high ground is almost as hilarious as the giddiness some of you had over a year ago before the Luddites triumphed for the town.

You see prod them and they reply.

I for one have absolutely no interest whatsoever what any FCHT supporter, or pretend supporters , have to say on anything to do with Halifax Rugby League Football Club because they are too full of hatred towards our club.

For me the whole debacle, whoever did what, when, why and how is done with.

Agreed Bob, the one thing I think all will agree is that the whole thing was a totally mismanaged affair that is best forgotten.

I've never fully understood the animosity that by and large always exists between a towns football and Rugby clubs. You've got Halifax, Wigan, Bradford, Hull calling one another wendyball/egg chasers.

The only example I can think of where the entire town supports its respective clubs is Leeds. Everyone will have a preference but want all Leeds branded clubs to thrive. What's so unique about Leeds to foster that sense of unity? I find it odd.

I'm a fan of both and share your frustration.Leeds don't or haven't shared grounds and
thereby lies the main problem.The main antifax brigade at town were actually fans of the rugby club prior to the stadium sharing.
ps If you follow your football side prepare yourself for upset this sunday.

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The animosity from the Town fans goes back much further than ground sharing. To be honest they can not get over the fact that we have won things, our club has had international stars.
Halifax Town and now FCHalifax Town have never won any thing and the only representative honours their players have achieved is something like England' F team.
We have had Lions they are all lambs.

Haha brilliant.

Blimey Bubba you didn't even know Wrexham is in Wales and not Scotland.