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| Is it me being paranoid, or does this guy seem to have a downer on Fax?
Was todays performance as bad as the play off semi a few years ago at Widnes?
Thoughts please.
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| Well apparently the Leigh fans think he was biased towards us!
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| Super League ref your having a laugh a disgrace
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| anything to do with the fact he's from Leigh???
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| the decsion against Ambler in the 2nd half was a real game changer, still not sure why he awarded the penalty.
I bet Ambler himself his still scratching his head on that one....
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| That knock on near their line was a big mystery and infuriated me and most Fax fans, how on earth was it not a knock on at best he dropped it sideways, either way he LOST CONTROL of the ball.
The tackle on Sam Barlow was just like the one we got penalised for yet he didn't give us a penalty.
Big calls in a tight game.
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| Super League refs always look average in our league, they blow up due to the slower nature of the game.
The lad who reffed last Thursday was far far better, for both sides.
Look on the bright side, it wasn't James Childish.
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| Quote ="horseyfax"anything to do with the fact he's from Leigh???'"
Nah he`s from Lowton with a WA3 postcode.
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| Quote ="Bartholemew Smythe"Nah he`s from Lowton with a WA3 postcode.'"
Is that a scouse, Lanc or Manc post code?
I know Leigh's dont begin with an L
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| He had a shocker for both sides. Certainly no bias, just incompetence unfortunately.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"He had a shocker for both sides. Certainly no bias, just incompetence unfortunately.'"
Got to ask why Leigh fans thought he was as bad for you? We know of 3 big calls he got wrong against us, the knock o by you near your line, the play the ball he let you do again and that tackle he penalised us for which was just the same as the one against sam Barlow 5 minutes earlier.
Bald git I dislike the man he is just as bad in SL when I have seen him, stuck up his own you know what.
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| Quote ="Fax4Life"Got to ask why Leigh fans thought he was as bad for you? We know of 3 big calls he got wrong against us, the knock o by you near your line, the play the ball he let you do again and that tackle he penalised us for which was just the same as the one against sam Barlow 5 minutes earlier.
Bald git I dislike the man he is just as bad in SL when I have seen him, stuck up his own you know what.'"
The forward pass for Worrincy's try would be the big issue. Gave a ball steal against McNally despite it being a clear one-on-one. Maden being knee'd (is there a word for that?!) in the back in the first half when already tackled. Morrison and his usual 'big man' act with cheap shots when third man in the tackle. Pretty sure Thackery's try came off the back of a poor decision though I can't remember exactly what (the booing from the fans is usually a giveaway!)
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| Leigh's average penalties per game this season was reached by half time today. Bentham is usually listed as Warrington.
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| Quote ="wereutherein1987?"Is that a scouse, Lanc or Manc post code?
I know Leigh's dont begin with an L
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Does yours begin with a big N O N C E ?
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| Does anyone know what the official penalty count was?
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| Quote ="Bartholemew Smythe"Does yours begin with a big N O N C E ?'"
Out of order that, Bart.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Out of order that, Bart.'"
pray tell why?
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| We all see the things that effect our team. The forward pass for the Worrincy try, the continual marker offside especially leading to the try, the knees to Maden, the late shot to McNally when on the ground.
He seems to try extra hard to show he wasn't a Leigh fan in younger life, especially as Scummins is the paymaster.
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| Quote ="maurice"We all see the things that effect our team. The forward pass for the Worrincy try, the continual marker offside especially leading to the try, the knees to Maden, the late shot to McNally when on the ground.
He seems to try extra hard to show he wasn't a Leigh fan in younger life, especially as Scummins is the paymaster.'"
I think that knock on was the worst as it would have given us the ball near your line rather than a relieving penalty to you.
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| Quote ="maurice"the late shot to McNally when on the ground.'"
Cant wait to watch the replay of this, i thought as long as a player isnt tackled then hes a free target as long as it isnt an attack to the head or anything stupid with elbows and the like.
A few things that i thought stood out. Allowing the Leigh player to move off the mark at the play the ball in the first half leading to their try. Wasnt a penalty so he had no right to move the ball backward and should have been penalised. One of our trys looked suspicious but the one we had ruled out looked ok so swings and roundabouts there. I dont think Leigh made it out of their own half in the second half without the ref piggy backing them up field. One pentalty was especially galling, the one where we were done on the last tackle when the Leigh player dropped the ball. We went from having the ball on half way to defending our own line. Fair enough if we were offside but after 20 minutes of the second half he stopped giving offside yet Leigh were constantly offside when we were on the attack. Now im not saying we wernt but we just want some consistancy, i mean watch Duffy when he was on the field, im not sure he made it back on side more than 5 tackles the whole match. I thought in doing this the ref let Leigh back in the game just to make a game of it. The Mcnally knock on was just laughable. He drops the ball over his shoulder yet we again get penalised and Leigh are marched up field. I was shocked when he gave the penalty to let us even up the game but then again we only got the obvious ones all afternoon.
Im not in the slightest bit surprised Rhino went mad after the game.
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| Just shows how fans see things differently I thought he was deliberately trying to show he s not baised, he was orgianally from Leigh, where he lives now is not the issue is it.
SO both sets of fans didn't like his reffing. It because SL refs are more picky and are used to quicker play the balls etc.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Cant wait to watch the replay of this, i thought as long as a player isnt tackled then hes a free target as long as it isnt an attack to the head or anything stupid with elbows and the like.
A few things that i thought stood out. Allowing the Leigh player to move off the mark at the play the ball in the first half leading to their try. Wasnt a penalty so he had no right to move the ball backward and should have been penalised. One of our trys looked suspicious but the one we had ruled out looked ok so swings and roundabouts there. I dont think Leigh made it out of their own half in the second half without the ref piggy backing them up field. One pentalty was especially galling, the one where we were done on the last tackle when the Leigh player dropped the ball. We went from having the ball on half way to defending our own line. Fair enough if we were offside but after 20 minutes of the second half he stopped giving offside yet Leigh were constantly offside when we were on the attack. Now im not saying we wernt but we just want some consistancy, i mean watch Duffy when he was on the field, im not sure he made it back on side more than 5 tackles the whole match. I thought in doing this the ref let Leigh back in the game just to make a game of it. The Mcnally knock on was just laughable. He drops the ball over his shoulder yet we again get penalised and Leigh are marched up field. I was shocked when he gave the penalty to let us even up the game but then again we only got the obvious ones all afternoon.
Im not in the slightest bit surprised Rhino went mad after the game.'"
This is a virtual mirror image of our thoughts. Fax offside all game etc Suppose it's why we are fans of a club really.
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| Harrison like a big Kid I'm not surprised they play like they do He should be done for damaging someones camera ,
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| Quote ="maurice"This is a virtual mirror image of our thoughts. Fax offside all game etc Suppose it's why we are fans of a club really.'"
Yeah ive no doubt that we were offside most of the game too but i always wonder why refs pick the ones they do. The last tackle piggy back one was the worst for me.
The same goes for the spear tackle, Barlow was withdrawn due to taking a bang on the head in a clear spear tackle that went unpunished yet we were punished for a similar tackle. Luckily Sam was able to shake it off and was able to come back on.
I dont for the life in me think refs are biased, they are simply inconsistent.
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