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| [urlhttp://www.therfl.co.uk/~therflc/home/news_item.php?id=17640[/url mmm further investigations to find out if were guilty of misconduct
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| Quote "The club's own internal investigation into the circumstances surrounding the selection of Michael Ostick is continuing and it would not be fair to comment on how this happened until that investigation has run its course
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I wonder how long the internal investigation will take? Surely that should be fairly straight forward... should be done and dusted by now.
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| Just seen it on skypsorts breaking news. I hope there isn't a fine to follow, we've lost enough from this tie already.
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| It's on CNN to
Just be greatful you didnt get any sort of fine and it's just a straight forward throw out.
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| Please keep all discussion on this result in this thread only please.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"It's on CNN to
Just be greatful you didnt get any sort of fine and it's just a straight forward throw out.'"
I echo that sentiment. If this is all that will happen then we're lucky. Just have to wait now for the misconduct investigation.
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| WHO GETS THE BULLET?
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| Quote ="Halifax1987"I wonder how long the internal investigation will take? Surely that should be fairly straight forward... should be done and dusted by now.'"
Exactly right. The club is not doing itself any favours here. People want answers. The club need to be honest and quickly. The longer this so called internal investigation takes the more it drags on and the more harm is done.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"It's on CNN to
Just be greatful you didnt get any sort of fine and it's just a straight forward throw out.'"
That could still follow. They are now to investigate if Fax are guilty of misconduct! Err, yes, we fielded in ineligible player.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"It's on CNN to
Just be greatful you didnt get any sort of fine and it's just a straight forward throw out.'"
A fine may follow though if they find us guilty of misconducted.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"That could still follow. They are now to investigate if Fax are guilty of misconduct! Err, yes, we fielded in ineligible player.
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But were we devious or stupid?
That's what will be investigated.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"That could still follow. They are now to investigate if Fax are guilty of misconduct! Err, yes, we fielded in ineligible player.
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it would be counter productive for the RFL to give us a significant fine.
They will state the error was made "un-intentionally" and a "genuine non-calculated mistake" and let us off a large fine, but insist Fax review their internal controls and inform Red hall of their action plan to do this.
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| Quote ="wereutherein1987?"it would be counter productive for the RFL to give us a significant fine.
They will state the error was made "un-intentionally" and a "genuine non-calculated mistake" and let us off a large fine, but insist Fax review their internal controls and inform Red hall of their action plan to do this.'"
Bang on. (hopefully )
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| Quote ="littlerich"But were we devious or stupid?
That's what will be investigated.'"
Exactly.
Devious = Heavy fine, some suspended
Stupid = Lighter fine suspended, exclusion from the cup deemed punishment enough.
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| Quote ="littlerich"But were we devious or stupid?
That's what will be investigated.'"
Does it really matter? If we have been kicked out of the cup I can see us being guilty of misconduct. We did play a player who was cup tied. I would think that's enough for misconducted. Could be wrong though.
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| Michael Steele says:
"Although we are now out of the Carnegie Challenge Cup, our ambitions in the Co-operative Championship are undiminished.
This week has started badly: our goal now is to make sure it ends on a high. We have a very important fixture at home to Barrow Raiders on Sunday and I am sure everyone at the club, players, coaches, officials and supporters alike will pull together to make sure we put right on the field what we have done wrong administratively"
Well said. I know it's difficult but let's try to put this behind us. If we were to get our act together and win the Grand Final this mess would quickly be forgotten.
Having said that, we still require a full explanation asap before the fans start to vote with their feet.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"Does it really matter? If we have been kicked out of the cup I can see us being guilty of misconduct. We did play a player who was cup tied. I would think that's enough for misconducted. Could be wrong though.'"
No - i think the misconduct enquiry will ask - did we willfully plan it? The answer - No. Had we been playing Widnes, then quite possibly.
The only nagging doubt is to whether the 2 directors left because of it. If that's the case, then we knew about it and tried to keep quiet.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"Michael Steele says:
"Although we are now out of the Carnegie Challenge Cup, our ambitions in the Co-operative Championship are undiminished.
This week has started badly: our goal now is to make sure it ends on a high. We have a very important fixture at home to Barrow Raiders on Sunday and I am sure everyone at the club, players, coaches, officials and supporters alike will pull together to make sure we put right on the field what we have done wrong administratively"
Well said. I know it's difficult but let's try to put this behind us. If we were to get our act together and win the Grand Final this mess would quickly be forgotten.
Having said that, we still require a full explanation asap before the fans start to vote with their feet.'"
Your right - we fans need an explanation and then action taken to make sure this can NEVER happen again, some confidence needs restoring!
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| I don't get how Ostick did not fess up or realise he might be cup tied. Sorry but that strikes me as a bit dumb, most fans know, the lads cost Fax some brass and all over a player who I didn't think improved the team anyhow.
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| The main question for me now is how do the club, players and crowd react to this? Hopefully with a thumping of Barrow and a galvanising atmosphere to kick things off!
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| sorry to hear this news your club has had some tough times, however can someone explain to me why when hull fielded an ineligable player they got a fine and were allowed to continue in the competition, and you guys get kicked out.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"Michael Steele says:
"Although we are now out of the Carnegie Challenge Cup, our ambitions in the Co-operative Championship are undiminished.
This week has started badly: our goal now is to make sure it ends on a high. We have a very important fixture at home to Barrow Raiders on Sunday and I am sure everyone at the club, players, coaches, officials and supporters alike will pull together to make sure we put right on the field what we have done wrong administratively"
Well said. I know it's difficult but let's try to put this behind us. If we were to get our act together and win the Grand Final this mess would quickly be forgotten.
Having said that, we still require a full explanation asap before the fans start to vote with their feet.'"
A very dignified response from Mr. Steele in what is a very dark and costly day in the history of Halifax RLFC. I'm still gob-smacked by the whole event of this matter.
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| They wont fine Fax, they know quite well that most clubs are surviving on peanuts in the championship and any potential (hefty fine) could send the club under. A severe ticking off is what you will get, and no franchise sadly.
To ease the pain we'll take Royston Vasey, Scruffy Gleeson and Ben 'Pint' Black of your hands.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"
Having said that, we still require a full explanation asap before the fans start to vote with their feet.'"
I think the gate at the next home game will show a significant reduction, even some hardcore fans are starting to say "... if the club are willing to treat the fans like this, with no formal statement... I may just give it a miss for a while..."
I will be there...
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