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| It seems Leigh have given up the ghost now and are holding a flash sale of all their players, Fev are expected to follow but more than likely theirs will be at the end of the season as they should not be under as much strain as Leigh. Any of either team that we would fancy as realistic targets to help us in the 8's or going forward to next year?(Not counting my chickens one more game to go but the odds are in our favour).
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"It seems Leigh have given up the ghost now and are holding a flash sale of all their players, Fev are expected to follow but more than likely theirs will be at the end of the season as they should not be under as much strain as Leigh. Any of either team that we would fancy as realistic targets to help us in the 8's or going forward to next year?(Not counting my chickens one more game to go but the odds are in our favour).'"
I think we should give Jamie Acton a miss
For the past 3 seasons he seems to take August and September off!!
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| If misi t were younger yes but he's too old now . I think Marshall could have done something with sticks son but he's gone to York now. But nobody wage and age profile really stands out to me. I think that we stick with our reserves and bring them through. Stop SL taking our better ones. And keep the likes of Butler , Sion Jones is a must do plus the 2 Welsh lads
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| Looks like we are looking to bring a couple of players in but won't be from either team mentioned.
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| Whilst I 7nderstand getting a full strength squad surelynadding players now with 8 games to go could cause more disruption then good. We signed the French lad but not seen anything of him, will he play on Sunday?
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| Quote ="Norman Bates"We signed the French lad but not seen anything of him, will he play on Sunday?'"
If you’d seen him in the reserve game against Bradford you wouldn’t want him anywhere near the first team - nowhere near ready
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Looks like we are looking to bring a couple of players in but won't be from either team mentioned.'"
s/l centre.....Hankinson on loan...?
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| Quote ="Beaujangles"s/l centre.....Hankinson on loan...?'"
One looks like a Huddersfield player. I think its just sureing up the squad for what is going to be a lot of tough games rather than signing players to step straight in.
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| Is the second rower from Wigan still here ?
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| Quote ="Beaujangles"Is the second rower from Wigan still here
No he went back to wigan then to swinton
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| Quote ="Beaujangles"Is the second rower from Wigan still here
No he went back to wigan then to swinton
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| Is that Macaulay Davies . Nice of them to tell us he had gone lol. So we get a French player who by all accounts we have as good if not better in the reserves and one that we actually had seen play before is now at Swinton. All seems a bit unstructured on the face of it.considering everything costs money. mind you I suppose the answer is the existing players have just about delivered the goods. And with a lack of injuries there are a few players chomping for game time particularly to play the 8s. Ie Heaton . WBH , Jones etc. Do we actually need any more players would be my question?
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| Quote ="jensenFF"Is that Macaulay Davies . Nice of them to tell us he had gone lol. So we get a French player who by all accounts we have as good if not better in the reserves and one that we actually had seen play before is now at Swinton. All seems a bit unstructured on the face of it.considering everything costs money. mind you I suppose the answer is the existing players have just about delivered the goods. And with a lack of injuries there are a few players chomping for game time particularly to play the 8s. Ie Heaton . WBH , Jones etc. Do we actually need any more players would be my question?'" About to post the same thing-you are spot on.QLT/Moss type signings that add to the quality..great-don't want making up numbers signings.Why would we want a young Giants centre with Heaton/Mcgrath chomping at bit.
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| The French guy was absolutely abysmal in the Bradford reserves feature. No idea how he got MOM. Seemed to be workshy and afraid of contact.
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| RM has already said that we are always interested in players who fall within our budget and could add to / improve the squad but would not be signing players just for the sake of it as injury wise we weren't doing too bad with cover in most areas and some who are already here were chomping at the bit to get a chance.
On the Mac Davies situation when the club were first approached Fax stated that they were okay in that area and were not really looking but the lad asked if he could still come anyway, this happened but as above didn't go any further than the odd game on the reserves do now he's gone back, same with Walid, hasn't had a chance yet.
Can't see a problem with any of the above myself?
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| I can.We don't need you but you can come anyway-what sort of basis is that for a signing ? Davies and the French lad if not significantly better than Sion/Fraser etc are counterproductive at the club.
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| Quote ="Beaujangles"I can.We don't need you but you can come anyway-what sort of basis is that for a signing ? Davies and the French lad if not significantly better than Sion/Fraser etc are counterproductive at the club.'"
Correct. What do these sort of deals say to the likes of Ben Heaton or Sion Jones. Now I've only been involved in RL for going on 60 years and don't profess to be a coach but the two lads named above would be like two new signings in my opinion. Perhaps RM just dosen't rate them or summat behind the scenes has gone off that we don't know about. The thing is they already know our systems/calls. Both are easily good enough to come straight in. More importantly they are members of our tightly knitted squad and belong to something that can't be bought. If it ain't broke don't fix it comes to mind. Aye, if a QLT or Kieren Moss comes along and we can afford to get 'em, all well and good, happy days but as has been said it would be counter productive to get lads in just to boost numbers. Up The Fax!
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| Totally in agreement with Beajangles & Hudd-Shay
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| Quote ="Beaujangles"I can.We don't need you but you can come anyway-what sort of basis is that for a signing ? Davies and the French lad if not significantly better than Sion/Fraser etc are counterproductive at the club.'"
The basis was not a signing, it was to have a look at a young player from an SL background who had personally asked for a chance.
The alternative is to say no thanks, not only to him but everyone else who asks and then later on when others takes a look and they turn out to be a good one then it would be "Why did we not have a look at him", "another one slipped through the net etc".
RM knows what all the lads currently signed up for are capable of and to stop taking a look at others has no logic.
Those lads will know exactly where the stand at the club and if they were to get upset at the head coach taking a look at other players then there in the wrong game.
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| Point taken..but this is not pre-season where people are trialling with a view to earning a contract-it was announced as a one month loan agreement with a contracted super league player.
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| Quote ="Beaujangles"Point taken..but this is not pre-season where people are trialling with a view to earning a contract-it was announced as a one month loan agreement with a contracted super league player.'"
If he were to become available and was what RM was looking for and he liked it here then we have a foot in the door, contact made, assessment done and "informed decision" possible.
The alternative is Fax don't take a look at any contracted player who is offered to them.
RM and his staff seem to be doing a fantastic job with both the first team and reserves with the cards they are holding so why doubt him here , you either trust him or you don't.
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| for me asking the questions and the ability to do so are the most important thing. It's got nothing to do with trust just a will to constantly improve from where you currently are . I don't think as a club or supporters we have asked enough over recent years. I think MM changed that by questioning the way the club was operated My question to the club at this stage is ...what board decisions or changes do you feel have contributed most to this seasons success . ? Because the reality is we have got to where we are with nobody saying ...." We have no money " significantly signings of Qlt and Moss came mid season. One to discuss .
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| Cant see a problem with looking at players with a view to a permanent deal . That's what RM and MG are doing. French lad might not work out but he was worth a punt. Nothing to lose.
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| Quote ="jensenFF"for me asking the questions and the ability to do so are the most important thing. It's got nothing to do with trust just a will to constantly improve from where you currently are . I don't think as a club or supporters we have asked enough over recent years. I think MM changed that by questioning the way the club was operated My question to the club at this stage is ...what board decisions or changes do you feel have contributed most to this seasons success . ? Because the reality is we have got to where we are with nobody saying ...." We have no money " significantly signings of Qlt and Moss came mid season. One to discuss .'"
I don't think any changes really contributed if we are honest. Is the club better run now? Its pretty hard to say, I mean at the beginning of the season we had no money to sign new players and had to run with what we had and its only been significant financial contributions from sponsors that allowed for the quality to come in to the team. If we didnt make the top 4 I would imagine the club would feel the affect once again. I know people from the recent past have been asked to get involved once again after a few things did not go to plan this season and it will be interesting to see who takes the reigns of the club after this season.
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