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| So Leeds have named their squad for Sundays game KO 16.45
Fev have named their squad for Sundays game at Batley KO 15.00.
Now i know its not that far from Mount Pleasant to Headingley but how the heck can the same two players be named in both match day squads.
RFL get a grip, the game at the moment beggars belief.
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| Quote ="cowfax"So Leeds have named their squad for Sundays game KO 16.45
Fev have named their squad for Sundays game at Batley KO 15.00.
Now i know its not that far from Mount Pleasant to Headingley but how the heck can the same two players be named in both match day squads.
RFL get a grip, the game at the moment beggars belief.
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The squads have to be named on Friday, 48 hours before the game.
Most teams will have a "captain's run" or similar on Saturday morning, where injuries can happen, or players unexpectedly fail late fitness tests, causing an intended DR player to be called up to the parent club
It's actually an improvement on the previous system in that respect - previously DR clubs could suddenly lose a player in the 24 hours before a game without any warning if there was an injury in the parent club squad, I'm sure this has happened to Fax and it's definitely happened to Fev. At least now we know which players that could happen to.
Given you can't bring in anybody new to the 21-man squad now other than for reasons of a DR player being pulled out at the last minute (or someone being suspended after the squad has been named), players who are expected to play for the DR club are frequently going to be named in the parent club's 21- man squad now if they are first cover for a position in case of late injury.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"The squads have to be named on Friday, 48 hours before the game.
Most teams will have a "captain's run" or similar on Saturday morning, where injuries can happen, or players unexpectedly fail late fitness tests, causing an intended DR player to be called up to the parent club
It's actually an improvement on the previous system in that respect - previously DR clubs could suddenly lose a player in the 24 hours before a game without any warning if there was an injury in the parent club squad, I'm sure this has happened to Fax and it's definitely happened to Fev. At least now we know which players that could happen to.
Given you can't bring in anybody new to the 21-man squad now other than for reasons of a DR player being pulled out at the last minute (or someone being suspended after the squad has been named), players who are expected to play for the DR club are frequently going to be named in the parent club's 21- man squad now if they are first cover for a position in case of late injury.'"
I don`t accept that. My point is that if a player is to be selected for a game squad he is selected and should not be in another teams squad.
Just because you know who might be pulled doesn`t help at all if they are. I don`t see how its any different to previously if you can add to a squad if the DR is pulled.
If a club names one of their signed players then that player should not be allowed to be named in any others squad in that weeks round of matches.
This would solve the issue where a team trains with DR players only to see them pulled back at the last minute.
DR is a mess and not good for the game. It will only get worse as reserves start to play.
DR is a bad system that was never thought out properly and this tinkering is not making it work any better
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| Quote ="cowfax"I don`t accept that. My point is that if a player is to be selected for a game squad he is selected and should not be in another teams squad.
Just because you know who might be pulled doesn`t help at all if they are. I don`t see how its any different to previously if you can add to a squad if the DR is pulled.
If a club names one of their signed players then that player should not be allowed to be named in any others squad in that weeks round of matches.
This would solve the issue where a team trains with DR players only to see them pulled back at the last minute.
DR is a mess and not good for the game. It will only get worse as reserves start to play.
DR is a bad system that was never thought out properly and this tinkering is not making it work any better'"
This is fairly simple and obvious - if you could only be named in one squad that would make parent clubs much less willing to release potential DR players, which both parent club and DR club would see as a negative.
I really don't see the issue with players being named in both squads especially now they have been raised to 21. We know there are going to be 4 players drop out of every squad each week and we won't know until an hour before kick off which ones.
I get that you don't like DR and lots of fans don't, but getting worked up over this makes no sense, it has little impact on anybody.
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| Quote ="The Phantom Horseman"We know there are going to be 4 players drop out of every squad each week and we won't know until an hour before kick off which ones.'"
Exactly my point , the club doesn`t know until an hour before. How can anyone make a game plan nor knowing who might or might not play.
DR is not good but teams will use it but to allow a player to be named in two squads is just totally unacceptable and just wrong
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| Totally agree its just ridiculous
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| Quote ="cowfax"Exactly my point , the club doesn`t know until an hour before. How can anyone make a game plan nor knowing who might or might not play.
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Eh? Which club doesn't know until an hour before? Of course they know an hour before the game who the DR player is playing for!
As I've stated, this is permissible because squads have to be announced 48 hours before the game and clubs have a training session the day before the game. In terms of making a game plan it's absolutely no different to losing a regular squad member the day before the game due to injury.It's really straightforward and has no negative impact on anyone.
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| Quote ="bentleyman"Totally agree its just ridiculous
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A stranger in the Camp what are you doing on here Mick.?This is a thread for Cowfax and the Horseman,you should be trying to get Pete to attend this afternoons Fax game.I can’t believe he’s thinking of missing the whole season. .
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| Im surprised that your surprised we all know HS views on D/R
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| Quote ="bentleyman"Im surprised that your surprised we all know HS views on D/R'"
For me Mick whatever your views are you still follow yer team , it’s like Religion and Politics you can never win, what will be will be as Doris Day used to say.
Shame he feels this way, but it won’t alter anything,we have no DR this year but needs must.I will be looking for the Fax result this afternoon.Good Luck.
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| The title of the thread sums up perfectly the way the game is being run at the moment. DR aside, if you stand back and look at what's going on in the game it is astounding. The reserve team saga, Foreign cubs in the English league, the Bradford/RFL situation, a GB coach picking 2nd rate Aussies to play, out of position, for our national team. Need I go on? I hope things change but with the people in charge of the game going nowhere, I don't hold out much hope.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"The title of the thread sums up perfectly the way the game is being run at the moment. DR aside, if you stand back and look at what's going on in the game it is astounding. The reserve team saga, Foreign cubs in the English league, the Bradford/RFL situation, a GB coach picking 2nd rate Aussies to play, out of position, for our national team. Need I go on? I hope things change but with the people in charge of the game going nowhere, I don't hold out much hope.'"
Pete, I don’t think you will find one person to disagree with you , but it won’t make any difference,the reserves saga is about cash,again probably the same with Bradford,the Bennett situation is a joke, but it’s up to the RFL to sort things out, your stance won’t make the slightest difference,it’s about you and yer entertainment, cmon mate get to the Shay this afternoon, yer Club needs you.
I’m doing my bit for Fax , I’ve entered 2 teams in the Fax Fantasy League comp. .
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"The title of the thread sums up perfectly the way the game is being run at the moment. DR aside, if you stand back and look at what's going on in the game it is astounding. The reserve team saga, Foreign cubs in the English league, the Bradford/RFL situation, a GB coach picking 2nd rate Aussies to play, out of position, for our national team. Need I go on? I hope things change but with the people in charge of the game going nowhere, I don't hold out much hope.'"
Shaun Wane for Bennetts job?
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Pete, I don’t think you will find one person to disagree with you , but it won’t make any difference,the reserves saga is about cash,again probably the same with Bradford,the Bennett situation is a joke, but it’s up to the RFL to sort things out, your stance won’t make the slightest difference,it’s about you and yer entertainment, cmon mate get to the Shay this afternoon, yer Club needs you.
I’m doing my bit for Fax , I’ve entered 2 teams in the Fax Fantasy League comp.
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I appreciate what you say Ian but I've just had enough. If we carry on like this teams like ours are just going to become feeder clubs at best. Some clubs won't exist in a few years I believe. I know me taking a bit of time out will change nowt but I'll see how we go and hopefully I get the desire back.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Shaun Wane for Bennetts job?'"
At least he's British.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"I appreciate what you say Ian but I've just had enough. If we carry on like this teams like ours are just going to become feeder clubs at best. Some clubs won't exist in a few years I believe. I know me taking a bit of time out will change nowt but I'll see how we go and hopefully I get the desire back.'"
Pete, at the end of last season , I was so happy it had finished,but over the close season I realised how much I missed the game, I went to the Friendly against Wigan and have bought my season ticket , and now can’t wait for Saturdays game against Sheff, I hope Fax sofften them up this afternoon.On Friday night our first half was very slow but I. The second half we played well at Dews.
Again Pete the politics of Clubs is beyond my control so I just get on with watching the game I love.It would be nice to see you this season ,I won’t be at the Leigh v Fax game myself as my Daughter is performing in London ,so we are going for the week end.I hope you reconsider your views,it’s not Faxes fault.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"The title of the thread sums up perfectly the way the game is being run at the moment. DR aside, if you stand back and look at what's going on in the game it is astounding. The reserve team saga, Foreign cubs in the English league, the Bradford/RFL situation, a GB coach picking 2nd rate Aussies to play, out of position, for our national team. Need I go on? I hope things change but with the people in charge of the game going nowhere, I don't hold out much hope.'"
Totally agree and add to that the TV debacle where Sky have rights for The Championship and deign to show the odd game (perhaps).
Heaven knows what deal RFL will agree to for the next agreement with a broadcaster.
Despite all this I will be at the Shay to cheer the Fax along just as I have for nigh on 60 years through thick and thin. A lot of thin to be fair too.
So Hudd-Shay forget the sh***and pay your money and come on down to be entertained.
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| Looks like dual reg served Halifax very well with the last minute try scored by Oliver Roberts.
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| He was a bright light in a very average display. Hudd-shay didn`t miss much.
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| Quote ="Ornery Optimist"Looks like dual reg served Halifax very well with the last minute try scored by Oliver Roberts.'"
...and? Halifax lad to boot!
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"...and? Halifax lad to boot!'"
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| Quote ="Ornery Optimist"Looks like dual reg served Halifax very well with the last minute try scored by Oliver Roberts.'"
...and it now looks like he is going to Salford on a season-long loan! Still, we provided the shop window.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"...and it now looks like he is going to Salford on a season-long loan! Still, we provided the shop window.'"
Again.......
Would have been nice to have him for a lot of the season as he is clearly quite a way better than what we have. Hopefully Fax step up and come up with something to keep him, maybe use some of that reserve money we saved.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"I appreciate what you say Ian but I've just had enough. If we carry on like this teams like ours are just going to become feeder clubs at best. Some clubs won't exist in a few years I believe. I know me taking a bit of time out will change nowt but I'll see how we go and hopefully I get the desire back.'"
Im not confident the game will exist in a few years Pete.
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| Quote ="Rotherham Fev Fan"Im not confident the game will exist in a few years Pete.'"
It will Robin but not as we know it now. I've just listened to Talksport and there's been an article on about Liverpool playing the U23's in't FA Cup. Simon Jordan was on, and love him or hate him, he was spot on. His point being Liverpool couldn't care less about the cups or the 72 teams in the English league as when it all goes to pot they will be playing in a European Super League. That is coming to Rugby League and those in charge have no interest whatsoever in the likes of Fax or Fev. Gloomy I know but that is what they want. P.S. I hope you'll still talk to me when Rovers join the elite! Lol!
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