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| lost to London and they are not the best championship team. looks like widnes heading down.
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| Even with Finn they look like they have zero confidence. They’ve got us and the Rhinos at home and are then on the road for some really tough matches. Ben Black’s coming back to haunt them, they’ve had 7 years in SL on the back of a dropped ball so about time they went down.
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| Quote ="Norman Bates"Even with Finn they look like they have zero confidence. They’ve got us and the Rhinos at home and are then on the road for some really tough matches. Ben Black’s coming back to haunt them, they’ve had 7 years in SL on the back of a dropped ball so about time they went down.'"
Don't remind me Norman!
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"Don't remind me Norman!'"
Sorry, I still get flashbacks as well.
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| Quote ="Norman Bates"Sorry, I still get flashbacks as well.
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| Quote ="Norman Bates"they’ve had 7 years in SL on the back of a dropped ball so about time they went down.'"
No idea what you're on about. The dropped ball by Blacky was in the Northern Rail semi, Widnes didn't get "promoted", they got into SL through the dodgy franchise system. So karma if they'd get relegated anyway.
Brilliant watching that tonight. These arrogant SL teams think we're easy beats, but I bet the whinos are bricking it now. Come on Toulouse!
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| Remember the good times.
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"No idea what you're on about. The dropped ball by Blacky was in the Northern Rail semi, Widnes didn't get "promoted", they got into SL through the dodgy franchise system. So karma if they'd get relegated anyway.
Brilliant watching that tonight. These arrogant SL teams think we're easy beats, but I bet the whinos are bricking it now. Come on Toulouse!'"
To be able to apply for SL back then you had to either have won the NR cup or reached the grand final if I recall correctly. Without the said incident they would not heave even been able to apply for a franchise. The rest I agree was a big fix.
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| Quote ="Norman Bates"Remember the good times.'"
ARE YOU LISTENING? Ben Black's dropped ball had nothing to do with Widnes being "promoted"
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| Quote ="Norman Bates"To be able to apply for SL back then you had to either have won the NR cup or reached the grand final if I recall correctly. Without the said incident they would not heave even been able to apply for a franchise. The rest I agree was a big fix.'"
Totally disagree, Norman. Widnes were getting a franchise regardless of "what went on on the pitch". That's why I dispise them. And no way were there 3.5k there tonight. More like a grand.
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| I agree with Norman.
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| And me
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| Ditto
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| Tonight’s result is why the SL clubs want to jettison the qualifiers. The championship clubs are getting closer and closer and the SL clubs are worried. A vote any other way would be like turkeys voting for Christmas!
In the big scheme of things, the SL club’s attitude to the championship clubs, the Sky Sports commentary team lack of knowledge of the championship and the RFL not knowing what do about the championship is a blight on our sport.
We are seeing now 5 or 6 well run championship clubs bettering SL clubs now on smaller sky handouts, no tv exposure in their tv deal and less opportunity to advertise and the upper enchelons of the sport ridicule them!
Throughout licensing, the SL club’s got 18 million in funding and Fax and others got 300,000! Respect is deserved for the championship but the drawbridge will rise and money will be cut. If you can’t compete then shut them down. The qualifiers are a fantastic opportunity to keep competition going and refresh the sport every year
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| Freddie's wig. Great post, The fat controller would have been a worried jelly if he had not squirmed his way into another juicy job.
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| Yes still remember standing up thinking Blacky was bound to score only to see he had left the ball behind. Oh dear. He probably Is the one playerthat most of the memories are still brilliant though. It was his pace that really exited you.
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"ARE YOU LISTENING? Ben Black's dropped ball had nothing to do with Widnes being "promoted"
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ARE YOU NOT LISTENINING... It clearly did rules state you had to appear in the grand final or win the NR cup. The only way they got to the NR final was blacks dropped ball otherwise they could not apply for the franchise
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| It's all very well everyone agreeing with Norman, but they're all wrong. Widnes beating us in the Northern Rail semi following Ben's hot potato experience was in 2009 and Widnes got that outrageous franchise in 2012. Widnes had already won the Northern Rail Cup in 2007 so, as I say, that semi win against us had nothing to do with their franchise success. We also bid for the franchise, enabled by that marvellous last attendance versus Batley of nearly 5,000 which put our required average to 2,500. I remember it well
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| Sky were annoying last night saying fittnes should see them beat a part time team. DO they not realise Full time teams are in the championship
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| Quote ="hooligan27"Sky were annoying last night saying fittnes should see them beat a part time team. DO they not realise Full time teams are in the championship'"
I also noticed that. Terry mentioned the full time difference and I thought someone would correct him in his ear piece, but he said it again later
With no Championship coverage on SKY, this lot really did think London were cannon fodder but their ball handling was superior. Widnes had the bigger forwards but they looked shot at the end. Toulouse will give the Whinos a game tomorrow as well, mark my words. Am I right? I'm not wrong!
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| Quote ="Tony Fax"I also noticed that. Terry mentioned the full time difference and I thought someone would correct him in his ear piece, but he said it again later
With no Championship coverage on SKY, this lot really did think London were cannon fodder but their ball handling was superior. Widnes had the bigger forwards but they looked shot at the end. Toulouse will give the Whinos a game tomorrow as well, mark my words. Am I right? I'm not wrong!'"
First of all well done London.
Secondly TonyFax are you morphing into Charlie C in his forum absence and know everything now?
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| Quote ="hooligan27"Sky were annoying last night saying fittnes should see them beat a part time team. DO they not realise Full time teams are in the championship'" Not surprised the two oafs weren't up to speed,Clarke can't see further than his super league snout but if Carney is going to front it he should do his research.
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| Widnes were dire - a lot of large lumpish full time professionals - no pride in their shirt - and little skill - they were lucky it wasn't a bigger defeat. I expect them to be far more physical in their remaining matches - its the only way Catalans survived last year.
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| Well you certainly wouldn't have known who the SL side were would you . The support base tells you it's a failure
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| Widnes were lucky to be in the game in the last 20, ref let them lie on time and again. Will be interesting to see how the rest of the games are reffed, we’ve got Kendall who let Bird away with assault last season.
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