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| So is he still with us or not?
We've had the rumours but nothing announced by the club.
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| I'd expect you'd hear something this week.
Speaking in a purely personal capacity Tony, and using your thread to put a relevant point across, I think It's unrealistic of people to expect the Club to make announcements about anything until things are definite, paperwork signed etc. etc. as it would look pretty stupid if events took a turn. Look at the Ye Olde Oak premature announcement for instance, and the Dane Manning furore. Although nothing was actually signed and the Club was desperately trying to negotiate with Dane they couldn't stop Batley making an announcement even though it could easily have blown up in their faces.
Batley knew an early announcement would increase the pressure on Dane and it seemed to work.
Contrary to what some users of this forum seem to think, I'd say the Club is far more open about its affairs than most, and board members and coaching staff are regular attendees at Trust meetings where they are open to questions.
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Quote ="Officeboy"I'd expect you'd hear something this week.
Speaking in a purely personal capacity Tony, and using your thread to put a relevant point across, I think It's unrealistic of people to expect the Club to make announcements about anything until things are definite, paperwork signed etc. etc. as it would look pretty stupid if events took a turn. Look at the Ye Olde Oak premature announcement for instance, and the Dane Manning furore. Although nothing was actually signed and the Club was desperately trying to negotiate with Dane they couldn't stop Batley making an announcement even though it could easily have blown up in their faces.
Batley knew an early announcement would increase the pressure on Dane and it seemed to work.
Contrary to what some users of this forum seem to think, I'd say the Club is far more open about its affairs than most, and board members and coaching staff are regular attendees at Trust meetings where they are open to questions.'"
The club have made a clear statement https://www.halifaxrlfc.co.uk/article/48914/.
The was no "furore" over Dane, the club aimed to break their agreement with him and he was fortunate enough to be able to find another employer. Other players saw things differently. As others have said it's a short part time career and clubs are happy enough to jettison players at the end of contracts - or even during them "by agreement"
I'm sure you've had times when you've changed jobs because of a poor relationship with your employers or left before they get rid of you, I certainly have.
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Quote ="Officeboy"I'd expect you'd hear something this week.
Speaking in a purely personal capacity Tony, and using your thread to put a relevant point across, I think It's unrealistic of people to expect the Club to make announcements about anything until things are definite, paperwork signed etc. etc. as it would look pretty stupid if events took a turn. Look at the Ye Olde Oak premature announcement for instance, and the Dane Manning furore. Although nothing was actually signed and the Club was desperately trying to negotiate with Dane they couldn't stop Batley making an announcement even though it could easily have blown up in their faces.
Batley knew an early announcement would increase the pressure on Dane and it seemed to work.
Contrary to what some users of this forum seem to think, I'd say the Club is far more open about its affairs than most, and board members and coaching staff are regular attendees at Trust meetings where they are open to questions.'"
The club have made a clear statement https://www.halifaxrlfc.co.uk/article/48914/.
The was no "furore" over Dane, the club aimed to break their agreement with him and he was fortunate enough to be able to find another employer. Other players saw things differently. As others have said it's a short part time career and clubs are happy enough to jettison players at the end of contracts - or even during them "by agreement"
I'm sure you've had times when you've changed jobs because of a poor relationship with your employers or left before they get rid of you, I certainly have.
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| Quote ="swifty62"https://www.halifaxrlfc.co.uk/article/48914/
that looked like a definite announcement'"
No-one is questioning that he signed,just want to know now if he's given backword.Can't see the transport issue being true,if you're Lancs based it's easier to get to Fax than Dews,unless it's a licence issue.
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| Packing game in for businness reasons,latest..
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| Not a great loss for you guys. He's a very poor player.
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| Quote ="Fax Machine"So is he still with us or not?
We've had the rumours but nothing announced by the club.'"
Confirmed in todays courier he's not coming.Also DR will feature more prominantly next season.Won't boycott games for that reason,how about you Huddshay ?
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| Quote ="mr t hall"Confirmed in todays courier he's not coming.Also DR will feature more prominantly next season.Won't boycott games for that reason,how about you Huddshay ?'"
If it does indeed come to pass that we go down this road again, Fax will have lost one long time supporter. I have no interest whatsoever in watching other clubs players turning out for my club.
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| I'm all for it under the circumstances we are in.
I'd even push the boat out and say it would be nice to see some 'very high profile' players pull on the blue and white to help out the cause.
I have a feeling we'll get lumbered with Leigh or Huddersfield with no-name recovering crocks or unheard of kids no better than the likes of Butler, Nelmes & Woodburn-Hall.
We shall see.
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| Jordan Andrade -might actually turn up this time..
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| Whilst I have gone on record as to not liking D/R, are Fax really in a position to do without this evil necessity ?
I am sure RM is only agreeing to it as a last resort and would r their use his full squad, give them game time,bring on the confidence and keep team spirit going within the camp, unless of course the club we D R with lend use some game breakers of renown. Until the the full facts are known everything is speculation, giving the 'ner do Wellers something to get into a lather about and spout more hot air.
Only my humble opinion of course.
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| Quote ="the fax in asia"Whilst I have gone on record as to not liking D/R, are Fax really in a position to do without this evil necessity ?
I am sure RM is only agreeing to it as a last resort and would r their use his full squad, give them game time,bring on the confidence and keep team spirit going within the camp, unless of course the club we D R with lend use some game breakers of renown. Until the the full facts are known everything is speculation, giving the 'ner do Wellers something to get into a lather about and spout more hot air.
Only my humble opinion of course.'"
I agree, it seems this is a necessary evil we need to put up with to survive.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"If it does indeed come to pass that we go down this road again, Fax will have lost one long time supporter. I have no interest whatsoever in watching other clubs players turning out for my club.'"
Pete, last year I gave you unnecessary stick for your views for which I have appologised both on here and when you tried to have me evicted at Oddslum for standing on the yellow stairs
This year I appreciate where your coming from, I too am disappointed, why not give it one last season, see how it goes and make your mind up at the end of 2017.
After all your not only missing rugby you will miss your mates and most importantly you will never find out what Bentlymans carries in his bag.
Best wishes whatever.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"If it does indeed come to pass that we go down this road again, Fax will have lost one long time supporter. I have no interest whatsoever in watching other clubs players turning out for my club.'"
I understand your stance on DR and your reasons for not liking it but if you were given the choice of Halifax been in a relegation battle at the end of next season and not using DR or Halifax been in a battle for the top 4 and using DR which would you pick?
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| We have been D/R for a few seasons now and as far as I recall never had much benefit from the arrangement. I suspect RM will go down the same as before. We use when and if it suits us not the other way round when the SL clubs have dictated who will play. "Oh so and so is coming back from injury you play him". We know that doesn't work as those players don't give 100% as they don't really give a stuff if the little club loses or wins as long as the player gets a run out. Not a fan so let's hope RM manages it as well as he has been doing. In RM we trust
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| Looks like a 'neccessary evil' to me this one in view of the cost cutting. (Ops Director, two assistant coaches,several players,etc gone) I appreciate everyone is entitled to their opinion on DR, and mine is well documented on previous posts, but I wouldn't let it deter me from supporting the club-especially at this, what looks like a financially precarious time. End of the day it's a results driven buisness and we need to use whatever means we can to get those results on the field. I for one don't want to see us in a relegation scrap.
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| Quote ="Faxtastic123"I understand your stance on DR and your reasons for not liking it but if you were given the choice of Halifax been in a relegation battle at the end of next season and not using DR or Halifax been in a battle for the top 4 and using DR which would you pick?'"
Relegation battle every day of the week.
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| Quote ="Faxlore"We have been D/R for a few seasons now and as far as I recall never had much benefit from the arrangement. I suspect RM will go down the same as before. We use when and if it suits us not the other way round when the SL clubs have dictated who will play. "Oh so and so is coming back from injury you play him". We know that doesn't work as those players don't give 100% as they don't really give a stuff if the little club loses or wins as long as the player gets a run out. Not a fan so let's hope RM manages it as well as he has been doing. In RM we trust'"
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| At a time where the club needs the fan's backing and support more than ever i find Hudd Shay's attitude astounding.
None of us want to go ahead with DR however we don't have much choice right now.
It's ok you saying 'relegation battle' over DR but what a daft comment. This means even lower crowds, even less money coming in, bigger pay cuts the following year, bigger player loss, sponsorship loss and chance of relegation (If this was to happen then we'd be absolutely screwed).
You might prefer to see the club go to the wall rather than link up with a super league side but I certainly wouldn't.
I hope you find something entertaining to do on Sunday afternoon's next year.
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| Quote ="TheEnforcer273"At a time where the club needs the fan's backing and support more than ever i find Hudd Shay's attitude astounding.
None of us want to go ahead with DR however we don't have much choice right now.
It's ok you saying 'relegation battle' over DR but what a daft comment. This means even lower crowds, even less money coming in, bigger pay cuts the following year, bigger player loss, sponsorship loss and chance of relegation (If this was to happen then we'd be absolutely screwed).
You might prefer to see the club go to the wall rather than link up with a super league side but I certainly wouldn't.
I hope you find something entertaining to do on Sunday afternoon's next year.'"
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