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| "Row breaks out between @Halifax_RLFC & #Calderdale Council over rent payments at Shay stadium #Halifax. More in today's @HXCourier "
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| Apparantly 35k behind which is best part of a year.
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| Quote ="fax_insider""Row breaks out between @Halifax_RLFC & #Calderdale Council over rent payments at Shay stadium #Halifax. More in today's @HXCourier "
This was tweeted from the Courier twitter page this morning.'"
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| Time for a club statement I think.
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| Anyone seen a Courier to see what the article says?
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| Quote ="TheEnforcer273"Anyone seen a Courier to see what the article says?'"
Just looked on the courier website and there is nothing on it (but what's new there!)
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| This has been flogged to death and it still all revolves round the amount being charged by the council to both clubs who use it which is still unresolved at root cause level for one of them.
Fax are not happy that their rent is £11.880 more than the football club.
Whether CMBC will budge on it remains to be seen but as before they have the final say and can force the issue by just saying to Fax "If you don't pay, you won't play."
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| As John says time for a club announcement.Don't want another Oswickgate type postponement at last minute before the Batley game again..
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| Quote ="mr t hall"As John says time for a club announcement.Don't want another Oswickgate type postponement at last minute before the Batley game again..'"
"A HRLFC spokesperson insisted the FOI information was not accurate and said: “ The Club’s issues with Calderdale Council remain outstanding, but it is inappropriate to discuss them in the public domain at this time.
“The FOI response which is currently in circulation is out of date and substantially understates the club’s payments."
The above is from the courier article and looks like it's all they are saying at the moment.
I'm sure there will be more developments as it's not going to go away without some sort of resolution and it would be good to know what is going on.
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| It seems that the issue at the rugby club is the dIfferance in the two rents the football clubs is a lot less. Does anyone know why this is. if there is an agreement between the rugby club and the council and the council seem to be sticking to this agreement I can't see how the rugby club can avoid paying the agreed amount until the current agreement is up for review.
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| Fair enough we have a valid complaint about the rate vs FC Halifax Town, but the simple fact is you cant just stop paying for christ sake. It's embarrassing.
At the end of the day if we win then they will just put FC Haifax's rent up, not ours down, and everyone looses except the council.
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| Jesus. What an embarassment. Just pay the f******g rent!
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| Making the club look pathetic.
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| If the club has a dispute about certain aspects of he rent then it's fair enough that they bring them up with the council, but that not an excuse just to stop paying rent. Over the last 12 month the club has moved so far forward on and off the field and looks like it's been run I a professional way, but this makes it look the complete opposite, it's unprofessional and embarrassing. It needs sorting out
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| Quote ="freddies wig"Jesus. What an embarassment. Just pay the f******g rent!'"
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| Ive got a feeling the council are going to end up looking very silly over all this. By law they still have to follow correct dispute procedures and considering this dates back a number of years it will be shown that they have not done this. The FOI act shows how much Halifax RLFC are in arrears it does not show a record of when payments were made, anyone thinking the club have stopped paying their rent is way off the mark.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"Time for a club statement I think.'"
Having read the statement in the courier "not wanting to discuss this in the public domain" and Greggs post I feel quite reassured.
Me?
I'll just let them get it sorted.
Bet the Town forum is in meltdown.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Ive got a feeling the council are going to end up looking very silly over all this. By law they still have to follow correct dispute procedures and considering this dates back a number of years it will be shown that they have not done this. The FOI act shows how much Halifax RLFC are in arrears it does not show a record of when payments were made, anyone thinking the club have stopped paying their rent is way off the mark.'"
To be fair they are £35,000 in arrears, how much are we actually paying, £100 a month?
We may have been in dispute for a few years but in that time we have made a sneaky bid to buy the stadium, can't be that much of a dispute. The bloke that drove the bid doesn't seem to be around anymore!
We have an agreement, stick to it. Pay up whilst disputing it - who knows, we may get a refund.
Bottom line is this doesn't go away, there's no smoke without fire and its damned embarrassing for our great club and its fans
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| So the council have to follow the proper dispute resolution process but we don't have to hold up our end of the contract? I don't care what the dispute is, unless we have a legal instruction telling us not to pay, pay the bloody rent! Like I said earlier the council could very easily solve the problem by raising the rent for the football club. Then everyone looses apart from the council that get our rent and theirs!
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| Quote ="freddies wig"To be fair they are £35,000 in arrears, how much are we actually paying, £100 a month? (The club are not 35K in arrears).
We may have been in dispute for a few years but in that time we have made a sneaky bid to buy the stadium, can't be that much of a dispute. The bloke that drove the bid doesn't seem to be around anymore! (You are assuming that the bid to buy the stadium was cooked up by Abbott, it wasn't, he was just the fall guy. Reading the emails in the FOI act it is clear something was been hid and it seems more a case of the council wanting rid)
We have an agreement, stick to it. Pay up whilst disputing it - who knows, we may get a refund. (In my experience the only way to get a dispute sorted out is to withhold money, each to their own though and Fax will have taken legal advice over this and maybe the recent payment has something to do with that.)
Bottom line is this doesn't go away, there's no smoke without fire and its damned embarrassing for our great club and its fans (Although embarrassing IMO this will be better for us in the long run it been in the public eye, hidden away the council can keep on avoiding the situation)'"
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| What exactly are the council "hiding away?"
It's a fact that Fax don't pay their rent in full and it's a fact that the whole thing is massively embarrassing and has been for a while.
There's no way the club can take the moral high ground here unless we start paying up
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| Quote. “The FOI response which is currently in circulation is out of date and substantially understates the club’s payments.”
The above is from the couriers article on the subject from a spokes person for HLRFC as was the comment on not commenting further in the public domain at this time.
The club have made a statement and we need to read what they say.
The rent being talked about is for the 2015/2016 year which if it runs from April to April there is still time to make what ever outstanding amounts are due which according to the club statement is not £35.000.
The rent agreement that is in place should be honoured and then if for whatever reason a tenant wants to re negotiate then that is the time to do it.
It's been running for some time as we all know and out of the two parties involved it takes both of them to sit down and talk about it, which of the two would be less inclined to do so?
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| Quote ="freddies wig"What exactly are the council "hiding away?"
It's a fact that Fax don't pay their rent in full and it's a fact that the whole thing is massively embarrassing and has been for a while.
There's no way the club can take the moral high ground here unless we start paying up'"
What about if the council are not keeping to their end of the agreement?
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