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| Under 20s fixture vs @LeighCenturions Wednesday 12th March at the Shay 7:30pm Kick off #Fax2014 Entry = Donation to #FaxBuilder
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| Are you guys treating it as Under 20's? Our coach has circulated all opposing teams to say they can pick as many 'open-age' players as they wish. Mainly because that's what he intends doing, to keep his large first team squad sharp!
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| That'll sort out the future of rugby league then.
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| Quote ="Norman Bates"That'll sort out the future of rugby league then.'"
It's a better idea than sacking lads off at 19 or 20 to be fair.
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| Quote ="marillion man"It's a better idea than sacking lads off at 19 or 20 to be fair.'"
Agreed far better if proper "A" Teams are used instead of scholarships imo
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| open age players make a massive difference in these fixtures. I'm against it personally
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| Well it should be one or the other as I don`t think it`s fair that a team of youngsters should have to play against a squad that is not like for like . Didn`t there used to be some ruling where you were only allowed one or two maybe over the age when you were bringing back first team players from injury . If that is no longer in place then why do they call it Under 20s ,why not just have a second team then ? I was under the impression it was about bringing youngsters through not just giving first teamers a run out .
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| It can only be done if both teams agree. If one team doesn't agree then the game is played as an U20s
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| Quote ="rob_a"It can only be done if both teams agree. If one team doesn't agree then the game is played as an U20s'"
I thought it was an U20's League, perhaps I'm wrong but I did think the title "under 20's" gave the game away.
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| It is "officially" but the rules have been relaxed to allow teams to play more overage players providing there is agreement between the two teams that are playing
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| that clears that up then about U20s fixtures.
another RL farce.
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| Quote ="rob_a"It is "officially" but the rules have been relaxed to allow teams to play more overage players providing there is agreement between the two teams that are playing'"
So one week the under 20's get a game the next they don't depending on who the opposition is.
Seems a strange way to keep the young players, the future, happy.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"So one week the under 20's get a game the next they don't depending on who the opposition is.
Seems a strange way to keep the young players, the future, happy.'"
I agree and in an ideal world I would like to go back to the days when we had 1st team, A team and Academy rugby but unfortunately most teams can't afford to do this.
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| Well plenty of our 1st teamers got U20's gametime last season I can assure our posters. OK, how about this, how would your "youngsters" feel if they missed out on £20 or £30 appearance money for some "1st teamer" who got selected in front of them ?
These so called 1st teamers, who are actually reserves for the 80 minutes duration of the game might just bring on the kids, they might just steady things down or liven things up at the correct moments during a game. It's very possible you can learn things from playing against better opponets as well for that matter.
I wish we had the luxury of the Leigh squad in both quality & quantity, & i don't blame them for contacting other clubs to work a deal out re the U20's fixtures.
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| Not a bad display by the lads the final score was 24 to over 40 something to Leigh.
Could have been a few more for them but they had a number of scores wide out with no conversions.
Senior players for them I noticed were Madden, Ostick, Brown, Govin and maybe one more.
To be fair the younger guys for Leigh looked quick and classy in attack with some good line breaks and offloads going forward.
Fax kept going, San Brookes, Jamahl Hunte, Brad Delaney and our full back were the picks of some good performances.
Not a bad crowd with £250 announced as the funds raised for the Fax builder.
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| Did Keith Holden play ?
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| Quote ="mr t hall"Did Keith Holden play ?'"
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| Quote ="faxcar"Not a bad display by the lads the final score was 24 to over 40 something to Leigh.
Could have been a few more for them but they had a number of scores wide out with no conversions.
Senior players for them I noticed were Madden, Ostick, Brown, Govin and maybe one more.
To be fair the younger guys for Leigh looked quick and classy in attack with some good line breaks and offloads going forward.
Fax kept going, San Brookes, Jamahl Hunte, Brad Delaney and our full back were the picks of some good performances.
Not a bad crowd with £250 announced as the funds raised for the Fax builder.'"
It ended up being slightly higher than that as we had some more donations bringing the total to £267 we grateful for all the support the youngsters are being given by Fax supporters and the youngsters never give up when playing .
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| Quote ="johnny freeman fan club"It ended up being slightly higher than that as we had some more donations bringing the total to £267 we grateful for all the support the youngsters are being given by Fax supporters and the youngsters never give up when playing .'"
I took a couple of pound out otherwise it would have been even more.
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| Quote ="faxcar"I took a couple of pound out otherwise it would have been even more.
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Naughty, out of interest how does that compare with match days, not the amount you took out, the amount you collected.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"Naughty, out of interest how does that compare with match days, not the amount you took out, the amount you collected.
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Good question and I have no idea I am just one of the paying customers .
JFFC will though.
There were also several large portions of CHIPS being consumed as well HJ but comparing the amount to match days it was well down because you weren't there.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"Naughty, out of interest how does that compare with match days, not the amount you took out, the amount you collected.
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As you can imagine it is up on a usual matchday collection , hard to be exact as of course it depends on the crowd ,also on the normal matchday we are collecting mainly "Pledges " .Two or three years ago certain people pledged to put a contribution in each week to help support the second team and they are still honouring that "Pledge "
However if you want an example for instance againt Batley (first team)which was a decent crowd we took £130 ,the following Under 20s match against Sheffield (good crowd for an Under 20s ) the takings at turnstyles was £305 .
The first team match against Sheffield £113 ( crowd not as good as previous game )last nights Under 20s (lower crowd than previous Under 20s )£267
As you can see the differance is quite good but when you times it by several matches it does make a considerable differance.
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| Another thing to remember is the announcements are being made by Hilda and if the accuracy of the takings is anything similar to who was scoring for Leigh you have to make some allowances.
"And the try scorer for Leigh.....is.......Johnny Umbergumbaba... I think".
I thought I had been given last weeks team sheet and going on who was being announced the RFL are now probably looking into Leigh fielding a number of players who aren't registered with them.
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| Quote ="faxcar"Good question and I have no idea I am just one of the paying customers .
JFFC will though.
There were also several large portions of CHIPS being consumed as well HJ but comparing the amount to match days it was well down because you weren't there.
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See my posts re Faxfit, chips are a thing of the past.
Cucumber sandwiches, it's the future.
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| Quote ="marillion man"Well plenty of our 1st teamers got U20's gametime last season I can assure our posters. OK, how about this, how would your "youngsters" feel if they missed out on £20 or £30 appearance money for some "1st teamer" who got selected in front of them ?
These so called 1st teamers, who are actually reserves for the 80 minutes duration of the game might just bring on the kids, they might just steady things down or liven things up at the correct moments during a game. It's very possible you can learn things from playing against better opponets as well for that matter.
I wish we had the luxury of the Leigh squad in both quality & quantity, & i don't blame them for contacting other clubs to work a deal out re the U20's fixtures.'"
Colin, last season I never saw more than three first teamers in what was then U23's.
How would the youngster feel if they missed out on £20 or £30 if not selected?
Well speaking for my self, It wouldn't have been the money firstly, it would have been the fact that I didn't get a game.
I am not sure whether the youngsters are allowed to play for anyone else at weekends, if they are then at least they get a game, if not they may have to sit out a few weeks in a season, I am sure they will want to play on a regular basis.
So for me, it's under 20's with a limitation on open age.
Just my opinion.
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