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| In view of the fall out from the Bulls' situation and the "closed shop" perception some have of super league, as well as the farce of a club £1.5 million on debt being awarded a B licence, do you feel strongly enough to boycott RL events not including Halifax?
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| TBH i dont go to them anyway apart from England V Australia but i have never been to a SL GF and have no intentions of going unles Fax get there in 2150. The only problem with boycotting these events would be the Two world cup games that we are getting next year?
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| I understand where you are coming from Freddie but would the rfl even notice (or care)if FAX fans boycotted rfl events
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| The best thing we could do right now is to increase our own attendances - to show the RFL that Fax can attract the paying public. Bring a friend on Sunday. Bring yer mam and dad. Bring yer wife! (Leave the dog at home though )
If we end up in SL and only manage 3,000 at home then we'll get hammered - on and off the pitch. The club have done everything right to keep us at the top of the game outside SL. They (and us) now need to knock down the last fence.
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| Quote ="littlerich":23loczxsThe best thing we could do right now is to increase our own attendances - to show the RFL that Fax can attract the paying public. Bring a friend on Sunday. Bring yer mam and dad. Bring yer wife! (Leave the dog at home though
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If we end up in SL and only manage 3,000 at home then we'll get hammered - on and off the pitch. The club have done everything right to keep us at the top of the game outside SL. They (and us) now need to knock down the last fence.'" :23loczxs
Quite right Rich , however it needs more than another version of our ' fetch bob ' campaign
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| Starbug - No! No freebies - it annoys those who pay!! Our game must NOT be sold cheaply - it's why Bradford are in a mess and it's why Huddersfield are not sustainable. If the reality is that people don't want to watch our game for £15 then so be it - stick with the Championship as it is with crowds of 2,000. I don't buy into this notion of offering the first customers the product for free, get them hooked and then charge them later. I don't think it works - just my opinion. Marketing by all means - yes but NO freebies.
If a club is going to market properly it has to convince people that they're missing out on something by not attending. Halifax have done the on-field product offering already - now - somehow - they have to add a bit of pazzazz to the match day experience and pre-match build up during the week. Losing the Courier didn't help. The job just got harder. It all takes a lot of cash to do that though, something that we don't really have.
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| I've boycotted rfl events since they brought licensing in and cancelled sky and I feel great! Will only watch games involving Halifax these days. Totally unhappy about the sl feeder club idea too, why should we have their juniors foisted on us. Can't they see they are disillusioning all fans below stupid league?
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| Quote ="faxlad66"TBH i dont go to them anyway apart from England V Australia but i have never been to a SL GF and have no intentions of going unles Fax get there in 2150. The only problem with boycotting these events would be the Two world cup games that we are getting next year?'"
If its going to take 137 years to get into Super League we will do it for our great great grandchildren
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| Quote ="Les West Guitar God"If its going to take 137 years to get into Super League we will do it for our great great grandchildren'"
Ive arranged to be frozen in suspended animation until this time so that i can also witness a RFL without corruption and favouritism.
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| It`s years since I went to the Challenge Cup, Grand Final or any Super League ,Nations matches I have no interest whatsoever. There was a time we went to them every year and organised a bus full of people to take with us ,not now and what is more I don`t even miss it. I cannot even watch Super League on the TV now after a few mins I get bored,I do get marketing stuff from the RFL and I often let them know I will not buy tickets to watch something they don`t want my club to be part of.It won`t make no differance to them but it does make a differance to me and I can choose to spend my money how I want and it`s not going on propping Bradford up.
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| Not been for Years ........... Can't stand The RFL since the Shudersfield and GatesHull Fiasco.......
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| Quote ="littlerich"Starbug - No! No freebies - it annoys those who pay!! Our game must NOT be sold cheaply - it's why Bradford are in a mess and it's why Huddersfield are not sustainable. If the reality is that people don't want to watch our game for £15 then so be it - stick with the Championship as it is with crowds of 2,000. I don't buy into this notion of offering the first customers the product for free, get them hooked and then charge them later. I don't think it works - just my opinion. Marketing by all means - yes but NO freebies.
If a club is going to market properly it has to convince people that they're missing out on something by not attending. Halifax have done the on-field product offering already - now - somehow - they have to add a bit of pazzazz to the match day experience and pre-match build up during the week. Losing the Courier didn't help. The job just got harder. It all takes a lot of cash to do that though, something that we don't really have.'"
Its all about the control Rich, look at how W1g4n market and sell the ' Big One ' , I'd suggest that the local council would have enough families to fill the Skircoat , ditto the local hospitals, then schools and education personel, couple that with encouraging maximum away support and entice all the ' Bobs ' you can, pick out 4 games a year and market to death
As I said, not easy, hard work and a bit of cash , but it is the only way
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| Quote ="Skipdog"I understand where you are coming from Freddie but would the rfl even notice (or care)if FAX fans boycotted rfl events'"
Maybe not BUT why I won't support anything to do with SL is because think about it, on the one hand the RFL are saying we don't want you as you are not good enough for SL but on the other please, please, please come to our games we need all the fans we can get!
Stuff you fat boy.
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| Quote ="Skipdog"I understand where you are coming from Freddie but would the rfl even notice (or care)if FAX fans boycotted rfl events'"
Maybe not BUT why I won't support anything to do with SL is because think about it, on the one hand the RFL are saying we don't want you as you are not good enough for SL but on the other please, please, please come to our games we need all the fans we can get!
Stuff you fat boy.
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| Quote ="freddies wig"Griff, why don't you naff off to the Sheffield board. You'll be able to be pedantic and insult yourself over there, with no interruptions. Sweet'"
'cos there's nobody else there for him to annoy.
He'd be like an Eagles fan rattling around in a stadium, oh, hang on a minute......
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| I went to the sports shop near Next yesterday and was appalled to see a full rack of RL shirts on offer!
The reason I was appalled is because the choice was Leeds, Castleford and BullS$$$. What a joke - how difficult is it to speak to these shops and give them a dozen shirts to sell?
I am not a marketing expert but come on people. How hard can it be?
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| Quote ="Encouraged"I went to the sports shop near Next yesterday and was appalled to see a full rack of RL shirts on offer!
The reason I was appalled is because the choice was Leeds, Castleford and BullS$$$. What a joke - how difficult is it to speak to these shops and =#0000FFgive them a dozen shirts to sell?
I am not a marketing expert but come on people. How hard can it be?
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Simple, we haven't got a dozen shirts to give them. Ask Malcolm in the club shop, notice he hasn't got any hair?
He has pulled it all out dealing with XBlades. He had one home shirt in the club shop to sell.
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Simple, we haven't got a dozen shirts to give them. Ask Malcolm in the club shop, notice he hasn't got any hair?
He has pulled it all out dealing with XBlades. He had one home shirt in the club shop to sell.
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One day, when we are all dead and buried, some bright spark will convince all the Championship clubs to work together , sort out their own brand, manufacture their own merchandise and it will make the clubs millions
One day
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| Quote ="littlerich"Starbug - No! No freebies - it annoys those who pay!! Our game must NOT be sold cheaply - it's why Bradford are in a mess and it's why Huddersfield are not sustainable. If the reality is that people don't want to watch our game for £15 then so be it - stick with the Championship as it is with crowds of 2,000. I don't buy into this notion of offering the first customers the product for free, get them hooked and then charge them later. I don't think it works - just my opinion. Marketing by all means - yes but NO freebies.
If a club is going to market properly it has to convince people that they're missing out on something by not attending. Halifax have done the on-field product offering already - now - somehow - they have to add a bit of pazzazz to the match day experience and pre-match build up during the week. Losing the Courier didn't help. The job just got harder. It all takes a lot of cash to do that though, something that we don't really have.'"
I`m not really for giving away too many adult tickets either but I do believe that for certain matches we should give free childrens tickets away .Most people I know were introduced by a parent /grandparent or by meeting a player who spoke to them. I think they should get a couple of players plus volunteers out in the precinct a few Saturdays giving out free tickets to kids and saying they have to bring an adult .They could do a special package too as with all the will in the world £18 for an adult who is coming to watch rugby for the first time is quite expensive make them a one off just for a game where there will be not many away fans.
If a player talks to the child and tells them he`ll look out for them at a match the child thinks they are something special.That`s why I started to go to Thrum Hall and so did all my friends because we lived where all the players lived and saw them every day.My dad was from the North East and was a football player he`d never took me to the rugby we all just used to go together with someone elses parents.
Children want to be part of something sucsessful and I can`t help but think they missed out on a bit of an oportunity when we won the cup a couple of years back.They were invited on a visit to the Town Hall and came out on the balcony as it was going dark to show off the trophy to a sizeable crowd of Fax fans it was a wonderful spectacle.But would it not have created some interest in the town for our team if they had done this on a Saturday afternoon in an open top bus (available in Halifax)instead of an ordinary coach ?Toured the town and maybe stopped off at a Supermarket or two.Not sure wether it would be possible to close the road for the "balcony apearance " but the whole town would have seen them during the day not just the rugby supporters.
There is no easy answer to selling our team but we have to grab the oportunity when we can and we don`t seem to do this well at our club.I again looked around town just before the final last week and saw no mention that we were in a final no blue and white anywhere.If the Club can`t persuade shopkeepers to let them put something up how about asking the council if we can get into some of the umpteen empty shops they have and make a window display up.
There would be quite a few volunteers to help out with this and I hope no-one says "we tried it once it didn`t work" because it has to be done time and time again to make any kind of headway.
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| Just giving out free kids tickets doesnt work, you need to give much more, and to give more you need to have money to spend, so does Fax have a marketing budget set aside every year to spend on ' Marketing ' ?
That is the 1 st thing you need to sort out
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| Marketing is what is needed, but silverware to show around should also help.
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| Quote ="Norman Bates"Marketing is what is needed, but silverware to show around should also help.'"
It would do, but marketing is the key. Look how many finals we have been to in the past 3 years. Havent really noticed much increase in cowds on the back of that. Isnt one of our directors in marketing?
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