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| Quote ="Forever Blue and white"www.halifaxrlfc.co.uk/article.php?id=5602
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so, our chairman spat his dummy out and should have kept quiet til he received the feedback.
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| Quote ="a.n Other"so, our chairman spat his dummy out and should have kept quiet til he received the feedback.'"
It would appear so, and they are saying what I am saying in my other thread "Licence for 2015 - 2017"
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| Basically the RFL have put pressure on the club to issue a statement to this effect.
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| Quote ="Faxfan20111"Basically the RFL have put pressure on the club to issue a statement to this effect.'"
Maybe, but do we really think we can make the RFL change their minds.
We are working within a set of agreed guidelines and, as much as I hate the whole franchising idea, I can't see it changing. The RFL have committed to one Championship club obtaining a licence for 2015, efforts would be better spent ensuring that club is us.
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| Quote ="spanishbob"Maybe, but do we really think we can make the RFL change their minds.
We are working within a set of agreed guidelines and, as much as I hate the whole franchising idea, I can't see it changing. The RFL have committed to one Championship club obtaining a licence for 2015, efforts would be better spent ensuring that club is us.'"
Except its not just about us its about every team in the Championship/Championship 1 they are far more issues than us missing out on promotion anyway as I see it the RFL have made our club put up this statement because our directors where happy for us to be doing it on Monday. Spirit of 1895 la resistance
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| Quote ="spanishbob"Maybe, but do we really think we can make the RFL change their minds.
We are working within a set of agreed guidelines and, as much as I hate the whole franchising idea, I can't see it changing. The RFL have committed to one Championship club obtaining a licence for 2015, efforts would be better spent ensuring that club is us.'"
Yeah was just reading your other thread. I totally agree, it seems the RFL already know how we feel (and couldn't care less) I don't think a protest would achieve a great deal. It just looks as though the club has rolled over (or forced?) and it's frustrating to see.
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| Quote ="Forever Blue and white"Except its not just about us its about every team in the Championship/Championship 1 they are far more issues than us missing out on promotion anyway as I see it the RFL have made our club put up this statement because our directors where happy for us to be doing it on Monday. Spirit of 1895 la resistance'"
But.
What is the ultimate objective of spirit of 1895?
Will the movement only be happy with the overthrow of the governing body, a return to p&r, a better share of the sponsorship money etc.
I just can't see where this can go or what it can achieve?
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| Quote ="spanishbob"But.
What is the ultimate objective of spirit of 1895?
Will the movement only be happy with the overthrow of the governing body, a return to p&r, a better share of the sponsorship money etc.
I just can't see where this can go or what it can achieve?'"
Well perhaps you should have come to the meeting. The objective is for transparency and a just and fair governing body recognising the Championship clubs of BOTH divisions. Our leagues are the forgotten leagues of rugby!! Our aim us to ask many questions on behalf of all member clubs
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| Quote ="chris_smith"Well perhaps you should have come to the meeting. The objective is for transparency and a just and fair governing body recognising the Championship clubs of BOTH divisions. Our leagues are the forgotten leagues of rugby!! Our aim us to ask many questions on behalf of all member clubs'"
Chris. I couldn't make the meeting (just out of hospital) and I have already said that I applaud what you and others are trying to do, I just personally can't see it getting anywhere.
I know your commitment to a cause can never be questioned, your previous hard work shows this, but I just feel that we should focus on where we want to be in 4 seasons time.
I wish you every success in getting the RFL to be more transparent in the future.
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| Problem is we now have to tick the box to be able to apply again.
Leigh have already done so and they have as strong a bid as we do.
the squad we have we all know is good enough to win silverwear but how long will this squad stick together, I'd rather win this seasons grand final so we dont have to worry about whether we can keep the better players for next season
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| after reading the statement, i believe the RFL have told our club to wind our necks in, and do as we are told. also makes me think that our Bid was well below all the others,
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| Well thanks for that Directors , for a start it`s a new group that was formed to support the Club when they felt hard done by the RFL and if Mr Abbott didn`t want any of the fans to protest he should have made this clear when the meeting was arranged over a week ago.
I like many others have been puting my good money into doing all the fundraising for the Faxbuilder this year well that`s it for me now I am seriously considering not renewing my season ticket . They are a bunch of spineless idiots.
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| Quote ="Cassandra"Well thanks for that Directors , for a start it`s a new group that was formed to support the Club when they felt hard done by the RFL and if Mr Abbott didn`t want any of the fans to protest he should have made this clear when the meeting was arranged over a week ago.
I like many others have been puting my good money into doing all the fundraising for the Faxbuilder this year well that`s it for me now I am seriously considering not renewing my season ticket . They are a bunch of spineless idiots.'"
Cassandra. I too committed my money to the faxbuilder and I have fulfilled my personal commitment, and more.
I just don't get this "spineless" comment. What would you have the clubs directors do?
I will not be driven away by the inadequacies of the system and the ruling body. I will continue to give my support to my club.
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| Cassandra, I like many others have been puting my good money into doing all the fundraising for the Faxbuilder this year well that`s it for me now I am seriously considering not renewing my season ticket . They are a bunch of spineless idiots.
I would still say support your club, the Club still needs us fans otherwise it will totally die, at the moment we have a club that is among the best in the league we play in, as we need to make sure it stays that way.
Hopefully the club will make annoucements very soon, with regards to next year and beyond.
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| The club will do what they see as being best for the club long term , let them get on with that , whatever they do will not please everybody , and whatever they do might be or not be the right decision in a few years with the benefit if hindsight
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| Quote ="spanishbob"Maybe, but do we really think we can make the RFL change their minds.
We are working within a set of agreed guidelines and, as much as I hate the whole franchising idea, I can't see it changing. The RFL have committed to one Championship club obtaining a licence for 2015, efforts would be better spent ensuring that club is us.'"
Do you have a link for the statement about the Others, saying they are going to let another Heartland club in SL in 2015? I have not seen this.
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| Quote ="spanishbob"I just don't get this "spineless" comment. What would you have the clubs directors do?'"
Be firm, show some bottle, continue to speak out about the ridiculous franchising system?
I can just see it now, the next time the franchise announcement is made...it will be like groundhog day.
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| As already mentioned many times on these threads IT'S GOT TO BE A COLLECTIVE and not just a Fax thing.
RFL can ignore Fax BUT NOT a collective from the rest of the championship clubs which from my understanding is precisely the grounds on which the protests are being made.
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| Quote ="Bubba"Be firm, show some bottle, continue to speak out about the ridiculous franchising system?
I can just see it now, the next time the franchise announcement is made...it will be like groundhog day.'"
We all know what happened on Groundhog Day. It kept going on in perpetuity.
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| I am under no illusion that the Clubs` Board have no doubt been leaned on by the RFL to produce this statement to bring the Fax fans into line.As there was quite a big piece in the rugby papers this Monday stating we intended to do some kind of protest.
However even Mr Abbott by the looks of things does not realise this protest is not about Fax not geting into Super League although it may have been the catalyst it`s about the RFL s total lack of respect for the Championship Clubs.
It`s about a fair deal for everyone and I for one still believe in that it`s not just Fax fans that are fed up with how the spirit of the game has gone but a good deal of others too.
The T. shirts can still be worn as the RFL cannot stop the fans wearing a Tshirt
that we want to wear and they will still be available for donations at over £3-50 each.
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| Quote ="wereutherein1987?"As already mentioned many times on these threads IT'S GOT TO BE A COLLECTIVE and not just a Fax thing.
RFL can ignore Fax BUT NOT a collective from the rest of the championship clubs which from my understanding is precisely the grounds on which the protests are being made.'"
Exactly my point , it is not about Fax persay .
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| It just does not add up the BOD new we was having this meeting and where happy for us to go ahead with a protest at the Widnes game as long as it was peaceful. They met the RFL last Tuesday so why wait until now to plead with us to stay quiet? What I heard is that the club did not agree to release the joint statement so why the sudden change of Heart? Something smells fishy and I am not talking about the contents of Baldricks apple crumble.
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| Quote ="johnny freeman fan club"I am under no illusion that the Clubs` Board have no doubt been leaned on by the RFL to produce this statement to bring the Fax fans into line.As there was quite a big piece in the rugby papers this Monday stating we intended to do some kind of protest.
However even Mr Abbott by the looks of things does not realise this protest is not about Fax not geting into Super League although it may have been the catalyst it`s about the RFL s total lack of respect for the Championship Clubs.
It`s about a fair deal for everyone and I for one still believe in that it`s not just Fax fans that are fed up with how the spirit of the game has gone but a good deal of others too.
The T. shirts can still be worn as the RFL cannot stop the fans wearing a Tshirt
that we want to wear and they will still be available for donations at over £3-50 each.'"
The spirit of 1885 will go on viva La resistance
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| Quote ="wereutherein1987?"As already mentioned many times on these threads IT'S GOT TO BE A COLLECTIVE and not just a Fax thing.
RFL can ignore Fax BUT NOT a collective from the rest of the championship clubs which from my understanding is precisely the grounds on which the protests are being made.'"
Never a truer word said. For one of the Directers to come out with a statement, that the fans might be "un helpful" is a bit much. IMO. The fans backed the Directers to a one, against most of posters on other Forums, and then get kicked in the teeth with a statement like that. Unreal. How do you think you will ever get 10,000 in the ground with talk like that.
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