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| I don't expect to see any on Saturday. Less money in the coffers of Halifax RLFC & more money spent by the RFL on return flights.
If they do return to the French league next season, this is another expansion failure by the Pie Man & his tennis buddy.
I wonder if Nigel Wood has to pay for 2 seats when he travels by air? Or do they have wider seats in business class paid on for by the RFL?
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| The thing is how much money has the RFL spent on the expansion dream that could have been given to Championship clubs instead of trying to starve them out.
PARIS = FAIL. GATESHEAD = FAIL SHEFFIELD = FAIL CRUSADERS = FAIL TOLOUSE = FAIL. LONDON (after 30 yrs ) ? Not a good track record really but to hear them talk it`s a huge sucsess . I reckon RFL = FAIL.
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| I believe the current cost to the RFL of having Toulouse in the Championship is in the region of £400k per year, to cover costs of flying teams and officials over there, hotels ect, and same for Toulouse coming over here.
I think more damage will have been done to the Toulouse Club by taking part in this experiment, their attendances are woeful, a long long way behind other French RL Teams in the region I believe, some of the players who left at the end of last season, did so because they could earn more in the french league, and some of the foreign players at Toulouse arent on bad money (or so they claim).
TBH though, if Fax were to play in the French League for the next 3 seasons as part of a bizarre experiment I wouldn't be right happy, I go to as many games as I can, Home and Away, and to suddenly only be able to go to one or two away games a season at best down to time and cost would leave a sour taste in my mouth.
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| Was told by a reliable source when we were over there that the RFL
pay £30,000 for each club to go over there, but when Toulouse come here,
they pay their own way.
Also know that the match commisioner & other officials stay in the Capitol Square
area hotels when they go over, average fan can hardly afford a pint in that area.
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| Quote ="Knight till I drop"Also know that the match commisioner & other officials stay in the Capitol Square
area hotels when they go over, average fan can hardly afford a pint in that area.'"
Don't chat bo**ocks.
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| Quote ="TheEnforcer273"Don't chat bo**ocks.'"
Explain - tell you the Hotel name if you like?
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| In all fairness, Toulouse's away support is only about a dozen behind Sheffield's.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"In all fairness, Toulouse's away support is only about a dozen behind Sheffield's.'"
That can't be right, you can't have a negative total.
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| Quote ="dazednconfused"That can't be right, you can't have a negative total.'"
I'm considering Carlos to be Toulouse's one fan at each game, though even then I think thirteen people is a little generous to Sheffield.
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| Do Toulouse fans attend away games?
Yes but only when Toulouse are playing at home.
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| Quote ="johnny freeman fan club"LONDON (after 30 yrs ) ? Not a good track record really but to hear them talk it`s a huge success . I reckon RFL = FAIL.'"
There are a lot of amateur teams in the London area, but that begs the question: why aren't they supporting the flagship team in the capital? Take away the numbers of visiting supporters from their home attendances and we will probably find their core support is no greater than that of most of the Championship teams.
Other than that, I agree with you.
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| Quote ="Tortured Soul"There are a lot of amateur teams in the London area, but that begs the question: why aren't they supporting the flagship team in the capital? Take away the numbers of visiting supporters from their home attendances and we will probably find their core support is no greater than that of most of the Championship teams.
Other than that, I agree with you.
[size=200=#FF0000RFL = FAIL[/size'"
Plus most of the home supporters down there are Aussie or Kiwis over here on backpacking / bank jobs for 12 months how is that building up attendances.
But Rimmer and Robbie Whatsits Paul both who were extoling the expansion claptrap at a meeting last year both agreed without London and Crusaders then Sky would not be interested.
Jason Mccartney MP shook his head and said when you lot have finished throwing all the RFL money at France , Wales and London and it still fails you will be back with Wakey , Leigh and other heartland clubs.
They did not like it one little bit.
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| Quote ="TheEnforcer273"Don't chat bo**ocks.'"
I'll ask my old man, he's a current match commissioner. I'm sure he's been to Toulouse sometime or other.
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| Let me re-quote
Quote ="Knight till I drop"...average fan can hardly afford a pint in that area.'"
Don't chat bo**ocks.
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| Quote ="TheEnforcer273"Let me re-quote
Don't chat bo**ocks.'"
A pint in the Melting Pot is approx £6.
Has been for the last 3 years.
We should know we spent a lot of £6's
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| Each clubs travel arrangements are paid for by the RFL. It is around £10,000 per club visiting Toulouse. Only a certain number of people can travel under the RFL agreement. Normally 19 players, coaching staff of 5 or six people.
Toulouse are covered to around £100,000 for their games in this country.
So it costs the RFL around £200,000 to keep Toulouse in this league.
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| Quote ="billyfax"Each clubs travel arrangements are paid for by the RFL. It is around £10,000 per club visiting Toulouse. Only a certain number of people can travel under the RFL agreement. Normally 19 players, coaching staff of 5 or six people.
Toulouse are covered to around £100,000 for their games in this country.
So it costs the RFL around £200,000 to keep Toulouse in this league.'"
That's about the figure I got it to , you'd be looking at £ 3/400 per person with flights , hotels , transfers and the like
So somewhere between 200 and 300 grand per year
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| Quote ="Starbug":36katclkThat's about the figure I got it to , you'd be looking at £ 3/400 per person with flights , hotels , transfers and the like
So somewhere between 200 and 300 grand per year'"
Best in in touch with us then, for the last 3 years we have flown for £75 return and stayed in the centre of Toulouse for £50 a night.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn":1wo4zd8wSo somewhere between 200 and 300 grand per year'" :1wo4zd8w
Best in in touch with us then, for the last 3 years we have flown for £75 return and stayed in the centre of Toulouse for £50 a night.
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Players were on the same plane's and stayed at Novatel.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"
Players were on the same plane's and stayed at Novatel.
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That must be a hell of a rarity then as this year the Leigh team had to fly from East Midlands Airport (having stayed over down in Nottingham the previous evening) to Toulouse and then had to fly back from Carcassonne to Liverpool. Costs mount up with those hotel stays and transfers.
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| They stayed at the Novatel last year, I should know, Luke Branighan is still having nightmares apparently....
This year they were on a Golf Resort quite a bit of a drive from Toulouse. Flew out on a Liverpool - Carcassone Flight, but returned on a different airline to another airport (possibly east mids) on Sunday morning.
I know Toulouse have flown over here from Carcassone a few times (maybe all) and usually stay in a hotel nr Manchester.
Interesting thing we saw when coming back this year on the Sunday, was the Catalan Team returning on a Leeds-Carcassone flight, think its quite a trek to perpignan from there isn't it?
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| Carcassonne is smack bang between the two. Salford were on the same flight as us the first year we were out there.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Carcassonne is smack bang between the two. Salford were on the same flight as us the first year we were out there.'"
Ah right, still a bit of a drive i'd imagine, Its over an hour on a High Speed train from Carcassone to Toulouse,
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| Anyone see any Frenchies then? I saw someone who looked French stood in front of me - didn't utter a word all half but then at half time he said "Right, I'm off for a slash and a pie" in a strong Yorkshire accent
C'est la vie
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