Boots n all tonight. We're absolutely not in super league. No way.

Why put us in the mix then?

Still, at least we got a certificate - no other club has a "you are good enough to be in super league but can't be in it" certificate!

Tops

He has no say in the matter, its just his opinion.

i don't know what he has against us cause he was saying it in a raised tone as if he didnt like us as a club for some reason.

he can think what he wants, i now think he's a tool for the way he said it as much as anything, he is a massive tool

What did he say?

Eddie said "there (halifax)are still in the running for a franchise in July"

to which Brian said " no they don't, no they don't, they are not in the running, numerous times" it was more his tone when he said it that led me to think he's a tool

I bet our BOD and Vice Presidents would have liked this information before going through all the work involved with the application. He did cone across as being a tool.

He's a clueless Irish gimp who couldn't summarise about RL as long as he has a hole somewhere. I always thought he stole a living from our game as never really rated him. My 18 month old son has forgot more about RL than he will ever know!!

who cares what he thinks though, he doesnt have any say on who gets a franchise.

dont know why he doesnt like our club though

Oh I agree. He has no idea how strong Faxs bid is compared to other teams.

Whether we get a franchise or not he has no right to insinuate that we are not going to be in the running. Im pretty sure the powers that be would have more respect for the opinion of our new football consultant than Carney who has very little pedigree in RL. Really brassed off about his comments as we dont need them.

The only thing he did tonight was make himself look an absolute idiot.. which I will now relate him to in the future

I think he came across as a total kn*b too.

if sky had any balls, they would make him retract his statement and apologise publicly for airing his views.

Respect for getting to the standard we are now at and sympathy for not getting into SL is what we should be shown.

another tool showing how pi** poor licensing is. invite him to our next home match!

How did he say it? It sounds as though he was just stating the obvious. Yes we meet the criteria but if the RFL dont want us in we wont get in.They wont expand the league so for us to get in that means dropping 2 teams. Wakey are 1 but who would be the other realistically. We know Crusaders are `exempt` and i cant see it been Salford and it would look ridiculous if it was Cas.

The game is a joke.

I won't disagree with his opinion , but once again ( Like Paul Cullen declaring that this year counts in the box ticking exercise ) SKY are shown up to not be in tune with what the RFL are saying , we saw all this at the last franchise application stage with Angela Powers rating clubs on critera that was not going to be used

As an aside , do you really want to be in SL next year ? , Widnes with all their resources are making a pigs ear of it , do you really think it would be any better for yourselves

When you can pull in 4,500 at the Shay for Championship games , they could not refuse you , until then stay where you are , get Matt to sort out a defence , and concentrate on building a fan base bigger than some SL clubs

Who in the championship is going to be able to pull in that sort of crowd though.

how can people pursuade new fans, come and pay £10 a week to watch all season to get nothing at the end of it.

we have had 2 great years in a row but we couldnt manage to get many more fans.

how can clubs pursuade new fans to come and watch the clubs in the championship when there effectively playing for nothing??

Not saying it is an easy thing to do , but the only guaranteed way of getting a SL place is via supporters numbers , it is that that has got Widnes back in , nothing else

WIDNES UP, WAKEFIELD DOWN,


1/200 ON WITH FREDBET

Even Widnes havent been getting great attendances,

i can see a closed shop in terms of the Super Legaue coming in very soon, they can only increase the numbers so much, they will never kick the expansion teams out and they wouldnt have the bottle to kick some of the big names of Super League out.

i said it as soon as they brought the franchise system in and i still beleive it they will eventually be forced to bring back Promotion and Relegation

Which is a bit odd considering ground operating at below 10k?



Stranger things have happened so who knows. I do doubt it but can never be sure.

We also fail the other main criteria being Welsh, Irish, Scottish, French or Cumbrian

I thought it was a bit Irish the way he said it as well (pun blatantly intended

). Even with a bit of thought comparing us to other teams, there's certainly still not "no chance". Pundits shouldn't be looking at Wakey's, Quins', Wrexham's bid etc, then looking at ours and having a 'no chance' out burst.

Wrexham released their new Puma shirt last week btw. That shirt is to be used for the rest of the 2011 Season and the 2012 Super League season according to their Press release... Widnes did that little trick with their ST's as well before retracting it.

F**k it, if someone at the club is reading this, is there any chance you could bring something out, or sign a new sponsor and in the official Press release say it's for the rest of this year and the 2012 Super League season? Let's see what has to be said then....

Just sums up rugby league for me and why i have now decided to walk away from it. Its not what you do on the field which counts. The people running the game like Wood (rfl), gallop (nrl) and kazandjian (rlef) are clueless idiots who have ruined the enjoyment of being part of the game. Its now got to the point where it doesnt matter if you win or lose on the field. If your face fits great. If not then tough. RL as a sport is a joke and cant be bothered with the politics of it. Carney is just another clueless idiot involved in the game. RIP rugby league.

No - what got Widnes in was Steve O'Connor. Money talks and security is what the RFL want.

Perhaps if everyone is a "clueless idiot" instead of walking away, you could offer your services?

go and feck yourself. I have set up Rugby league in 2 nations and know the idiots running our game. I have spent many hours and a lot of my own money developing the game. Only to be told they rfl/rlef that they wanted a native running things despite me living in germany 10 years and being the first non german born on my dsds side. I have had personal dealings wirh them and have had enough of this crap. The game is a joke and i cant be bothered with it anymore.