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| Keep seeing his name pop up every other thread like some sort of Messiah, just wondered why people think Rhino would solve it all, didn't we put TA in the same column a few years ago? Not saying he's a bad coach but can't understand his messiah status.
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| Don't want him back. Legend as a player but when he was Salford coach he believed SL should be a closed shop. How times change eh?
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| Not the answer for me at all either. Legend as a Fax player but what has he done in the coaching world? Was given a few quid at Salford and took them backwards. We need a whole new setup with no previous links to the club in my opinion.
However I do not think we have a BOD with the backbone to make such a decision and think we will have Calland for a few more games yet. They will only get rid once its too late sadly. Hope they prove me wrong.
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| have no idea who we would get, as i have said on other threads.
don't think he will come and don't think he is the answer.
maybe a untried option, probably the best we can hope for during a season
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| Quote ="faxtastic"maybe a untried option, probably the best we can hope for during a season'"
All this in our supposed pinnacle season before we apply for SL again!!! - Would have thought some decent applications would come in.
Still all dreamland as I'm pretty sure the BOD will stick with our muppet of a coach.
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| Quote ="chris_smith"All this in our supposed pinnacle season before we apply for SL again!!! - Would have thought some decent applications would come in.
Still all dreamland as I'm pretty sure the BOD will stick with our muppet of a coach.'"
all the "decent" options as you put it, will already be in a job.
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| Quote ="chris_smith"All this in our supposed pinnacle season before we apply for SL again!!! - Would have thought some decent applications would come in.
Still all dreamland as I'm pretty sure the BOD will stick with our muppet of a coach.'"
SL Application might as well just write that on a leaf it will be about as much use as one, cause i suspect the RFL have there favourates and sadly we don't fit into that catergory
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| We need a coach. We've tried promoting from within with Faz and Mercer and we've tried bringing Back Fax legends in Anderson and Pendlebury. We need a 50+ year old experienced coach who will install the professionalism, work ethic and in game tactical changes that look to be missing right now. If that means going to Australia then I haven't got a problem with that. If money is an issue then I'd rather get rid of two top earning players and spend it on a coach. We've got Danny Flemming and Bowman that look ready to step up.
Get rid of two top earners and pay Calland off and bring in the right coach. I'll even nominate nominate the first one....Aziue!
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| Quote ="faxtastic"SL Application might as well just write that on a leaf it will be about as much use as one, cause i suspect the RFL have there favourates and sadly we don't fit into that catergory'"
Another mis-conception, how do you know "we don't fit into that category" ?
Widnes appear to be very confident with their application and have every right to be with the structures they have in place, we're also going in the same direction. There will always be interest from the "development" clubs like Toulouse while ever the term super league Europe is in operation.
The sponsors and supporters of Halifax RLFC are in the position that they're able to apply for a licence currently, can supporters of other traditional clubs say that ? Will Batley, Dewsbury, Keighley ever be in a position that we're in ? We have hope, let's keep the faith.
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| Quote ="marillion man"
Widnes appear to be very confident with their application '"
Because they are the other side of the Pennines.
There is a bigger proliferation of 'eastern' clubs over 'west' and RFL want to redress the balance.
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| Quote ="marillion man"Another mis-conception, how do you know "we don't fit into that category" ?
Widnes appear to be very confident with their application and have every right to be with the structures they have in place, we're also going in the same direction. There will always be interest from the "development" clubs like Toulouse while ever the term super league Europe is in operation.
The sponsors and supporters of Halifax RLFC are in the position that they're able to apply for a licence currently, can supporters of other traditional clubs say that ? Will Batley, Dewsbury, Keighley ever be in a position that we're in ? We have hope, let's keep the faith.'"
Widnes and Toulouse are the front runners.
we just don't fit into the new "Expantion" super league
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| Quote ="faxtastic"Widnes and Toulouse are the front runners.'"
Just Widnes.
Toulouse are nowhere near. It'll be Widnes in, Salford out in a very ordinary hum drum round of franchises. 2015 will be more controversial i reckon - depending on by how much Championship clubs improve their lot or how much the SL strugglers have capitulated through inactivity.
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| Quote ="littlerich"Just Widnes.
Toulouse are nowhere near. It'll be Widnes in, Salford out in a very ordinary hum drum round of franchises. 2015 will be more controversial i reckon - depending on by how much Championship clubs improve their lot or how much the SL strugglers have capitulated through inactivity.'"
i think if even less inactivity by some of those in SL and RFL do nothing can see the game going to the courts to get justice.
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| Quote ="swifty62"i think if even less inactivity by some of those in SL and RFL do nothing can see the game going to the courts to get justice.'"
Who's going to take the RFL to court? I don't think even Alan Rowley would be that daft. Dessie might do it - just for a laugh
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| Quote ="littlerich"Just Widnes.
Toulouse are nowhere near. It'll be Widnes in, Salford out in a very ordinary hum drum round of franchises. 2015 will be more controversial i reckon - depending on by how much Championship clubs improve their lot or how much the SL strugglers have capitulated through inactivity.'"
I meant Toulouse would be ahead of us just on location.
Widnes will be there though in the end
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| Quote ="faxtastic"Widnes and Toulouse are the front runners.
we just don't fit into the new "Expantion" super league'"
Widnes are being massively over-confident with their recent press releases. Talk about jumping the gun.
Hasn't anyone noticed that Sheffield Eagles are moving to Bramall Lane in the next few weeks? I wonder why? A club in South Yorkshire playing in an enormous stadium that could be used for Test matches and Challenge Cup semi-finals would, I reckon, be a very attractive proposition for Super League.
Toulouse and Sheffield for Super League in 2012, mark my words.
Super League don't want Widnes, they would have been given a franchise last time if that hadn't been the case.
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| But no crowds to speak of. Bramall Lane isn't half going to echo.
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| Quote ="Tortured Soul"But no crowds to speak of. Bramall Lane isn't half going to echo.'"
Don't think the people who hand out the franchises give a monkey's about crowd figures. After all, they did let Celtic Crusaders in last time.
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| Quote ="Jim Bergerac"Don't think the people who hand out the franchises give a monkey's about crowd figures. After all, they did let Celtic Crusaders in last time.'"
Maybe not, but they will use crowd figures as a reason NOT to award a franchise to the ones they don't want in.
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| Quote ="marillion man"
The sponsors and supporters of Halifax RLFC are in the position that they're able to apply for a licence currently'"
We can apply but have we really any chance of getting a licence? I doubt we have this time around because we havnt acted on what the RFL wanted us to act on.
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It was stated that player development investment would need to be increased to reach Super League standard.'"
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| Quote ="Waddy-Fax"Keep seeing his name pop up every other thread like some sort of Messiah, just wondered why people think Rhino would solve it all, '"
God only knows. I admired Karl as a player and he was a legend at Fax. But he did nowt at Salford and got sacked, and Batley are no great shakes. You have to laugh at folk's adoration, tho, it is quite funny ....
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| I would rather not have Harrison. I would prefer to have an Australian. The British Coaches are in the main simply not great and they often lack what it takes to make a team successful in SL-which is where we are suppossed to be heading. Dave Woods is maybe one. Think Mike Hagan is free though doubt he would come.
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| Do you think we could afford Mick Hagan?
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| Quote ="Tortured Soul"Do you think we could afford Mick Hagan?'"
No idea. But if you do not ask you do not get!
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| Quote ="Jim Bergerac"Widnes are being massively over-confident with their recent press releases. Talk about jumping the gun.
Hasn't anyone noticed that Sheffield Eagles are moving to Bramall Lane in the next few weeks? I wonder why? A club in South Yorkshire playing in an enormous stadium that could be used for Test matches and Challenge Cup semi-finals would, I reckon, be a very attractive proposition for Super League.
Toulouse and Sheffield for Super League in 2012, mark my words.
Super League don't want Widnes, they would have been given a franchise last time if that hadn't been the case.'"
Widnes didnt get a franchise last time cause Celtic Crusaders as they were called were an expantion club, only reason.
worse ground
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shows that was the only reason.
if they only take 1 though i feel maybe they wont turn Widnes down again.
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