I don't know about anyone else, but I am fast becoming disillusioned with Rugby League in general, and with the club as well.

It is becoming so obvious, even to people outside the sport, that the governing body is on a mission to make it a limited team game that they have done all but admit their error in allowing an inadequate team into SL in the name of expansion. It hasn't worked. No-one outside of RL can believe we've allowed the abolition of promotion and relegation. It's now a case of who dances the best to the RFL's fiddle in search of a SL franchise. Supposedly, it's for the good of the game. The disciplinary committee is a joke. How can someone get a 1 match ban for a high shot, yet 2 players from a certain team commit acts of what would be classed as assault off a field of play get away with smacked hands?

I am getting fed up with certain sections of the crowd that are not only becoming more foul and abusive, but are now beginning to show a violent element amongst them. This has gradually got worse since lasr season and it seems that little or nothing is being done about it. Is it the job of the stadium company to police this, or should the club act on it? It needs sorting now before Halifax get the reputation of a certain E. Yorks. club used to have. It's becoming embarassing having these 'fans' at our club. I take my young daughter to the games, and it may be time to move away from these idiots, or just stop going altogether. I won't post my opinions on here regarding the latest lack-lustre performances on-field, as the team should know how good/bad they've done themselves.

Agree with everything you say James. The RFL only care about SL and expansion. The problems in the game are ignored. The game has lost its spirit and its soul to Sky and the money men

As for Fax well every week now we here that certain idiots are causing trouble yet the club and the Stewards who must know that there is a problem do seemingly nothing. The club needs to get tough on these idiots as its ruining it for the rest.

As for the team. You hear many rumours about drink etc. I just ask the Coach and players to set a good example and put 100% in. At the moment I do not feel thats happening

At the start of the season i'd have been more than happy with our current position. It's tougher at the top and you have to have a champion side to stay there. Time will tell. As for the RFL and the game as a whole, would we be saying all this if we were flying high in Super league? I don't think we would.

Little Rich-The game is flawed. The way Championship clubs are left to die while Celtic and Quins are helped as much as possible stinks. I care about the game as a whole more than being a fax Fan. However the game jumps when Sky says. Sky wants us to expand then we must expand at any price. Clubs have different rules depending on who they are. That for me is a disgrace. Why should Leigh or Batley struggle to get an overseas player be relegated and Gateshead Thunder are allowed 4 or 5 Aussies?

.................but why were none of these comments made in April/May when we were flying high? I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you but it's odd how these threads appear when Fax are on a downer.

in the words of the fonze, exactamundo rich

Think you find that I have constantly criticized the RFL especialy with Celtic how they do things and why the like of Doncaster etc are left more or less to hope and pray.

Simple analogy , all the clubs outside SL are in the same boat

Unfortunatley it is sinking , and all the RFL are doing is chucking a couple of lifejackets into it for us to fight over

What is needed is for all the clubs in the boat to start to work together to bail it out and fix it

But we are all to busy fighting each other for the lifejacket , and the RFL know this and are happy with it

Clubs outside the top league (save for the yo-yo clubs of old) have always been in this boat. Unfortunately it's survival of the fittest. (apart from the obvious leg-ups). That's sport for ya.

Lock the thread surely? It cant be allowed that a moderator is seen to be negative?????

Moderators are human too.





I think.

Well you dont normally want the inmates running the asylum , but in this case

I have to agree with Tortured Soul about the unruly element creeping into our crowds at the Shay. It is noticeable that football type chants and agression towards visiting supporters is on the increase and nothing is being done, by whoever, to stem it.

I returned to RL and the Fax over 20 years ago after becoming hugely disillusioned with the attitude of supporters at my local football club (and in football generally) and despite witnessing some 20 years of success (on and off!). I'd been a supporter of Fax before previously moving myself over the hill for work purposes into a totally non-RL area.

It was a joy to return to Thrum Hall and to be a part of a crowd that was knowledgable about its sport, did not have organised obscene chants and was appreciative of the abilities of the visiting teams and respectful of their fans. I fear this wonderful attitude and atmosphere, like Thrum Hall itself, is, to a degree, sadly at risk of becoming a thing of the past.

What with the ridiculous scrapping of P & R and the double standards operated at Red Hall, along with the rise of what I would call the 'wrong sort' of supporters for our wonderful game, my disillusionment with rugby league is growing by the week.

On the field the game can inspire as well infuriate and I make these general comments despite the successes or failings of Fax.

I posted on the issue of the crowd straight after the last game as I also have been worried for some time. The thread got locked by the way so lets see if this one does.

I didnt see any trouble tonight? if there was any it must have been minor.

Other than one steward on a one man crusade to make everyone sit down including a stand up argument with a certain fax fan, there were no other incidents I dont think.

Thats not the issue in this thread though.

i wouldn't call it an argument brew due to being stood next to said fax fan. it was more like a voicing of opinions (all be it a loud voicing from the said fax fan) .

in the end i was sat/stood talking to some very nice viking fans and even they thought the steward/supervisor and what they were trying to enforce was stupid in the way it's done.

Yeh. it was never volatile, the same steward come up the back having a go at someone, I told him he'd caused a problem by coming into the stand, and people were trying to wind the stewards up as a result, said If he'd stopped down the bottom out the way there'd be no issue, He had no answer and walked off.

It wasn't that 'legend' with the hilarious side burns is it?

there wast even an arguement! told him to shut up and sit down, so he did for 30secs!lol

better team =red[size=150on the night [/sizewon, simple,

we need to sort out our defence and our heads after that, looked like they gave up???????

be positive tho, would have taken this position at st of year...

JFFC: I know you mentioned the crowd aftet the Fev game, and many agreed with you. Don't know who locked that thread. Maybe it went of topic as this one is threatening to do.

Littlerich: I'm not talking about how our team are doing, and I said as much, as that's the coach's problem. In fact, I'm not discussing the team at all. I think, however, that if you trawled back enough that you would find complaints about certain clubs being given 'allowances' whilst others have had to struggle.

Pinball: keep on kissing Maggie's butt!



I just want an open, honest game, where the playing field is level and the governing body don't appear to be the scoundrels that they look like. If they had integrity we wouldn't be as critical of them as we are. And, if the crowd trouble isn't sorted soon I'm going to have to consider my options.

Mate, there will never ever be a level playing field, EVER. It's the SL clubs who make those decisions it's all borne out of grees and self preservation. RL will never be fair, I've been involved at various levels in the game for most of my life as you'll know, get used to it or forget about it is my message.

With regards to the idiots who've seen following Halifax RLFC as a vehicle for their anti-social behavioural problems I would reccomend if you still want to follow the club you couls find somewhere else to sit or stand, don't let them spoil your enjoyment. You should have seen some of the trouble back in the '80's when we had a following, I've seen some pitch battles, literally, on the pitch on one occasion at h-t when half the town turned out in the hope of seeing us crowned league champions. Much as Thrum Hall was loved by our fans, there were plenty of crowd trouble on many occasions. I don't condone it, far from it, but I don't really know what the immediate answers are.

Chin up pal

The Fev game highlighted a few problems but not just with people who have just started watching or watched puffball and come to watch us.

You had people throwing full pints down the stand or people running after fev supporters embarressing themselves and the club because they can't handle losing, and people throwing bottles because fev scored.. it's these people needing a word!!!

As for RFL changing the rules, the reduction in next years salary cap only highlights that SL is becoming ever more closed.

as is my choice i tend to sit around the half way line at home games and do the same at away games

as i did with my mate last night at widnes- we shout and cheer for fax regardless - we do get some funny looks every now and then and the odd hard stare as at away games we are usually in the thick of away fans, as was last night at widnes

but we very rarley if ever get any or see any trouble - if anything we always have some quite good banter!

i shouted "forward" so loud at one play last night, a widnes fan was half out of his seat shouting forward himself until he relaised it was his team playing the forward pass! lol and patted him on the back and chuckles were exchanged!

That is what Rugby League stood for, sadly it's dying out.