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| Beswick and Barlow leaving Leigh. With the leigh fans convinced Barlow is returning to fax.
I would take beswick but Barlow depends on is attitude
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| Quote ="hooligan27"Beswick and Barlow leaving Leigh. With the leigh fans convinced Barlow is returning to fax.
I would take beswick but Barlow depends on is attitude'"
Definately take both.RM will get best out of him and not call him a dikkhead infront of a forum like his predecessor did...
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| I wouldnt take either. Bob played well for us but he is now several years older and I think there is younger talent out there that will want to play under RM. Barlow, no, wrong attitude and we have a great pack already and with the signing of Grix I really don't see Barlow fitting with a set of well disciplined forwards and the clubs new work ethic.
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| Quote ="Faxlore"I wouldnt take either. Bob played well for us but he is now several years older and I think there is younger talent out there that will want to play under RM. Barlow, no, wrong attitude and we have a great pack already and with the signing of Grix I really don't see Barlow fitting with a set of well disciplined forwards and the clubs new work ethic.'"
Fair points.Don't want either of our hookers to leave and with more budget 3 hookers isn't overkill and they are all different types.our pack is very good,but is lacking in offloads/tackle busts IMO.
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| Charlie and I have been saying for a few weeks now that Sam is returning home.
My opinion is based on a chat I had Sam, don't know where Ian heard it.
We may be wrong, lets wait and see whether Charlie and I know nowt.
Would welcome them back with open arms.
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| Quote ="mr t hall"Definately take both.RM will get best out of him and not call him a dikkhead infront of a forum like his predecessor did...'"
Mr t hall also wrote "Fair points.Don't want either of our hookers to leave and with more budget 3 hookers isn't overkill and they are all different types.our pack is very good,but is lacking in offloads/tackle busts IMO"
Two very good points in my very humble opinion.
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| Quote ="Faxlore"I wouldnt take either. Bob played well for us but he is now several years older and I think there is younger talent out there that will want to play under RM. Barlow, no, wrong attitude and we have a great pack already and with the signing of Grix I really don't see Barlow fitting with a set of well disciplined forwards and the clubs new work ethic.'"
I agree with the comment on Barlow, I think he has a bad attitude and despite RM being able to coach it out of him, I think he'd be a misfit who carries too much previous baggage. Beswick is a good championship hooker and would add value to our squad. He has different attributes to Ben and Ryan who have both played injured this season. As another post said, I too want both our hookers to stay as I think they will both be better next season.
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| Barlow to switch codes.
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| Quote ="mr t hall"Definately take both.RM will get best out of him and not call him a dikkhead infront of a forum like his predecessor did...'"
What's wrong with that? I admire honesty.
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| I wouldnt take either and dont really expect RM to either. Both will want more money than a lot of our players are on and im not sure they offer value for money compared to what we have. I know Sam has been trying to come back for most of the season but he wouldnt be a popular choice with our players. No big time charlies at our place just good honest players who turn up week in week out.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"Charlie and I have been saying for a few weeks now that Sam is returning home.
My opinion is based on a chat I had Sam, don't know where Ian heard it.
We may be wrong, lets wait and see whether Charlie and I know nowt.
Would welcome them back with open arms.'"
Mind you I did have a quick chat with Ken Roberts this morning, he didn't say anything about coming back, as a player.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"I wouldnt take either and dont really expect RM to either. Both will want more money than a lot of our players are on and im not sure they offer value for money compared to what we have. I know Sam has been trying to come back for most of the season but he wouldnt be a popular choice with our players. No big time charlies at our place just good honest players who turn up week in week out.'"
GFB I absolutely agree with you. It is obvious that our squad are very tight with each other and they show that they are happy to play for their 'mates' and do the tough stuff without any issues. That sort of spirit cannot be bought but is easy broken with the addition of the wrong type of person. Personally that's why I hope that Gareth Moore rumours aren't true as he appears to have past form at many other clubs. Good player no doubt but at Fax you need to be a good player on and off the pitch.
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| No thanks, Beswick yes but do we need a 3rd hooker.
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| It's obvious Fax will have a bigger spending budget next year whoever you sign, I think it will be another very good year to watch the Championship,I'm not sure if Beswick is the answer for you .
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| Quote ="Pellon Boy"GFB I absolutely agree with you. It is obvious that our squad are very tight with each other and they show that they are happy to play for their 'mates' and do the tough stuff without any issues. That sort of spirit cannot be bought but is easy broken with the addition of the wrong type of person. Personally that's why I hope that Gareth Moore rumours aren't true as he appears to have past form at many other clubs. Good player no doubt but at Fax you need to be a good player on and off the pitch.'"
I am confident that whoever Richard decides he wants, be it Gareth or Sam or Eric Cantona, he will be sure he can integrate then into the squad and get the best out of them.
Other wise why would he want them.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"I am confident that whoever Richard decides he wants, be it Gareth or Sam or Eric Cantona, he will be sure he can integrate then into the squad and get the best out of them.
Other wise why would he want them.'"
HJ I agree that RM will pick wisely and we all have faith in him doing it. My point is that some are easier to integrate than others and some have more baggage with our squad team spirit counts for a great deal.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"I am confident that whoever Richard decides he wants, be it Gareth or Sam or Eric Cantona, he will be sure he can integrate then into the squad and get the best out of them.
Other wise why would he want them.'"
John I think RM is most Definatly his own and choose his playing staff as he's sees fit, I think you need a centre and a good half back,to compliment your current squad.
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| No thanks, time to move on.
Why we'd want Barlow back is anyone's guess. Beswick was a good player for us in the past but for me always played within himself and playing for Fax was just a job.
Whoever the gaffer signs you'd just have to back his judgement.....we're in good hands.
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| Beswick was a good player for us but would rather we didnt sign him. His time is gone plus we actually have 3 hookers as Connor Robinson can also play hooker. As for Barlow-defo No. Ego Maniac who thinks more of himself than the team and his mates. I dont see a role for him at Fax anyway as our pack is strong and we have just added some strength to it with Fairbank and Grix. Maybe the French lad will be here as well on loan as well.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"I wouldnt take either and dont really expect RM to either. =#FF0000Both will want more money than a lot of our players are on and im not sure they offer value for money compared to what we have. I know Sam has been trying to come back for most of the season but he wouldnt be a popular choice with our players. No big time charlies at our place just good honest players who turn up week in week out.'"
Good evening GFB. On the subject of salaries at Leigh, I picked up an interesting comment from Paul Rowley in his (very humble) interview following Saturday's latest debacle in the Qualifiers.
He was talking about having to adapt to a full time environment. Pre full-time, he stated the obvious, that the players were working in the day and then having to train hard afterwards - just like your guys have been doing, although I don't think we had any window cleaners. (Ridyard's dad being the only one I can think of )
The surprising comment came when he explained that this season, our lads have been training in the daylight, (you may be forgiven for having assumed otherwise, after our trip to the Shay last week) and then going out to work in the evenings! I hate to thinK what they have been doing then, but was surprised that they would need to have to do that, as full time professionals.
Maybe they aren't being paid as much as many of us may have thought?
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| Quote ="The Lucky Black Cat"Beswick was a good player for us but would rather we didnt sign him. His time is gone plus we actually have 3 hookers as Connor Robinson can also play hooker. As for Barlow-defo No. Ego Maniac who thinks more of himself than the team and his mates. I dont see a role for him at Fax anyway as our pack is strong and we have just added some strength to it with Fairbank and Grix. Maybe the French lad will be here as well on loan as well.'"
Clement has signed for Toulouse from 2016. Just came to us as he was kicking his heels after the end of the French league competition and RM thought we might get a few games out of him.
Looked good when he's played but as everyone else has said we have a quality pack that he's found it hard to break into, plus we've just added to it with Grixy and Bob Fairbank.
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| Quote ="thefaxfanman"Clement has signed for Toulouse from 2016. Just came to us as he was kicking his heels after the end of the French league competition and RM thought we might get a few games out of him.
Looked good when he's played but as everyone else has said we have a quality pack that he's found it hard to break into, plus we've just added to it with Grixy and Bob Fairbank.'"
Toulouse still not defo playing in the Championship 1 in 2016 and so his season will be over in May. Could be that he will come on loan over the Summer season if Toulouse stay in French Elite 1 next year.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"It's obvious Fax will have a bigger spending budget next year whoever you sign, I think it will be another very good year to watch the Championship,I'm not sure if Beswick is the answer for you .'"
How has he gone this season? What's the general opinion on the terraces of his performances? He had a couple of good games on TV in the middle eights and certainly impressed the Sky team. We probably don't need another hooker though so he'd have to be better that what we have got.
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