Yes I agree with you completely on other clubs fear to allow us to play at their grounds. I think Fax really need to be thinking ahead as Town could very easily be playing a complete bluff saying they don’t want The Shay and then swoop in, buy it and kick us out. Certainly more chance of that happening to us than us doing it to Town.

Without our own ground and source of revenue from it we will continue to be reliant on people pouring money into the club which won’t last forever.

The land that National Grid own at the bottom of town adjacent to Matalan and opposite the Wool Merchants would be a good plot to have.

Also in all this owning our own ground gets us more points with IMG, which obviously isn’t the end of the world but helps if this is what we are locked into for the next ten years.

After the disappointment of this season which could end with us been in League One the club needs a long term plan which I’m sure they have, hopefully!

You have to take your hat off to Davy, he really loves the Giants. After ploughing in going on £20 million for nak all return with a fragile fan base of barely 3k, one wonders why he bothers.

It will be interesting to see what crowd turns up for their meaningless last match against Castleford on Thursday. The irony about the "self preservation" ethos in SL is that if there was relegation then the lower teams would have something to play for which might stoke up some spectator interest, even though admittedly the Giants and Cas would currently be safe as it stands.

Looking at the recent results for the likes of Hull, Hudders and Cas it looks as if the players have as much interest as the fans. It's all meaningless. How is this meant to attract crowds and sponsors? It'll be the same - possibly worse - next year if there's no standout candidate for SL. Would Toulouse be able to replace say Cas on their IMG score? If not then it's a closed shop until a club attracts a backer willing to spend to get the IMG score higher than the lowest rated SL side. That may never happen.

What's the point?

It makes my ground share idea less likely. Nobody will want to share their ground with another club as it could allow them to gain IMG points and possibly threaten their place in SL.

Exactly. That's why in sport you have the 1st division, the 2nd division (or whatever fancy names you give them) .... and so on and there's promotion and relegation between each division. Otherwise we might as well have completely different competitions because there is no longer a link.

As such I think the Championship should re brand itself as the Premiership (ignoring the existence of Super League, lol), get a TV deal with Channel 4 and a blue chip sponsor. Job done!

Without P&R fans will lose interest outside the top 6 of SL. Games need to have something hinging on them and hope of promotion and fear or relegation are the biggest motivators. Hudders, Hull, Cas and whoever else is at the lower end of SL will see crowds drop further if there's nothing to play for. This isn't the NRL. We don't have the money or the leadership to compete with that. Meanwhile participation is falling. Soon there won't be enough players for the clubs we have now. Maybe it's time to look at how other sports go about it. Hurling is amateur yet the all Ireland final is absolutely huge - if you haven't seen it watch the highlights https://youtu.be/PoViqHOY-XY?si=Ie-6mUAwEv3SfEvU That may mean in the long term we go back to a handful of pro clubs and the rest being semi pro. It probably means top level international competition versus Australia and New Zealand is finished but we haven't played the Aussies in years anyway.

Without P&R fans will lose interest outside the top 6 of SL. Games need to have something hinging on them and hope of promotion and fear or relegation are the biggest motivators. Hudders, Hull, Cas and whoever else is at the lower end of SL will see crowds drop further if there's nothing to play for. This isn't the NRL. We don't have the money or the leadership to compete with that. Meanwhile participation is falling. Soon there won't be enough players for the clubs we have now. Maybe it's time to look at how other sports go about it. Hurling is amateur yet the all Ireland final is absolutely huge - if you haven't seen it watch the highlights https://youtu.be/PoViqHOY-XY?si=Ie-6mUAwEv3SfEvU That may mean in the long term we go back to a handful of pro clubs and the rest being semi pro. It probably means top level international competition versus Australia and New Zealand is finished but we haven't played the Aussies in years anyway.