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| Quote ="bren2k"It's fairly easy to dismiss, since it has no evidence base or any of those pesky facts to back it up; it is therefore a rather quaint story of magic and mysticism, based on a set of contrivances used to explain what was then but no longer is, the unexplainable.
Conversely, you and others of your ilk, glibly dismiss well researched, peer reviewed and scientifically irrefutable facts simply because they don't fit your celestial big brother belief system. Go figure.'"
[iTypical Butcheresque Ramblings[/i
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"I don't have to respect Biblical 'scripture' any more than any other written fiction. Circles don't have corners.'"
[iYou need English lessons. Poor lad look up the word [url=https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=corner+definitionCorner[/url.
Isaiah was referring to the second phrase of the definition[/i. [i 2. a location or area, especially one regarded as secluded or remote, Look for the word Quarter thats also their, The Bible has never been debunked fools [/i.
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"[iYou need English lessons. Poor lad look up the word [url=https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=corner+definitionCorner[/url.
Isaiah was referring to the second phrase of the definition[/i.[i 2. a location or area, especially one regarded as secluded or remote, Look for the word Quarter thats also their, The Bible has never been debunked fools [/i.
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Who needs English lessons?
Anyway, how do you know what Isaiah meant, or were these written long after he died by someone else?
Plus, if he did mean the second definition as you've said he was referring to, "a location or area, especially one regarded as secluded or remote", that's not a reference to the Earth being a flat disc is it.
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"Who needs English lessons? Anyway, how do you know what Isaiah meant, or were these written long after he died by someone else?
Plus, if he did mean the second definition as you've said he was referring to, "a location or area, especially one regarded as secluded or remote", that's not a reference to the Earth being a flat disc is it.'"
[iRead the verses again I understand Isaiah's writings its plain and simple, it's confusing to to you because your sole intention is to mock and ridicule regardless of whatever is written.
With regards to the Dome/Firmament theres plenty of scripture dedicated to it. If you read Isaiah 40-22 Below he's referring to the firmament/Dome. Can't you read and digest. Oh i forgot you can't think for yourself can you. Mainstream needs to spoon-feed your hypnosis.[/i
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"[iRead the verses again I understand Isaiah's writings its plain and simple, it's confusing to to you because your sole intention is to mock and ridicule regardless of whatever is written.
With regards to the Dome/Firmament theres plenty of scripture dedicated to it. If you read Isaiah 40-22 Below he's referring to the firmament/Dome. Can't you read and digest. Oh i forgot you can't think for yourself can you. Mainstream needs to spoon-feed your hypnosis.[/i'"
In the past few posts you've:
Called me a fool
Said I need English lessons
Said I can't think for myself
Said I can't read and digest
Called me Ignorant
You often cry and moan about personal attacks. I'm not d either way, but don't give it if you can't take it back Stanley, I'm not being personal about you.
Anyway. I've read the passage again. No mentions of 'dome' or 'firmament', just metaphors for their own view of how God looking over them, with heaven above the Earth, not literally that we're in a dome . It also mentions that we're 'Grasshoppers', but we're not all walking around with 12ft long legs are we Stan, it's their own personal metaphor as to how they see the world, it's not literal, it's not 'evidence'.
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"[iOh i forgot you can't think for yourself can you. Mainstream needs to spoon-feed your hypnosis.[/i'"
Whereas you don't need to think for yourself - an ignorant shepherd did all your thinking a couple of thousand years ago.
The hypocrisy is by turns maddening, and hilarious.
Yours,
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"In the past few posts you've:
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Called me Ignorant
You often cry and moan about personal attacks. I'm not d either way, but don't give it if you can't take it back Stanley, I'm not being personal about you.
Anyway. I've read the passage again. No mentions of 'dome' or 'firmament', just metaphors for their own view of how God looking over them, with heaven above the Earth, not literally that we're in a dome
. It also mentions that we're 'Grasshoppers', but we're not all walking around with 12ft long legs are we Stan, it's their own personal metaphor as to how they see the world, it's not literal, it's not 'evidence'.'"
[iAtheists are ignorant. You've been asking questions which the answers could be found in my scripture signature. Thats proof of ignorance and not digesting what you're reading. All you doing is mocking scripture which makes you a fool, especially when nobody on earth has ever debunked it. Also your Atheistic heliocentric religious beliefs leads me to the conclusion that you've swallowed the mainstream narratives which is pure made up conspiratorial propaganda, which is designed to deceive the gullible individuals who don't/can't/won't think for themselves.
If you're that interested in Dome/ [url=http://biblehub.net/search.php?q=firmamentFirmament[/url /scripture. There you are i've provided it. There's lots of scripture on it. It wouldn't serve much purpose would it your ignorance would just mock and dismiss it.[/i
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"[iAtheists are ignorant. You've been asking questions which the answers could be found in my scripture signature. Thats proof of ignorance and not digesting what you're reading. All you doing is mocking scripture which makes you a fool, especially when nobody on earth has ever debunked it. Also your Atheistic heliocentric religious beliefs leads me to the conclusion that you've swallowed the mainstream narratives which is pure made up conspiratorial propaganda, which is designed to deceive the gullible individuals who don't/can't/won't think for themselves.
If you're that interested in Dome/ [url=http://biblehub.net/search.php?q=firmamentFirmament[/url /scripture. There you are i've provided it. There's lots of scripture on it. It wouldn't serve much purpose would it your ignorance would just mock and dismiss it.[/i'"
No need for the personal stuff Stanley, I'm genuinely interested. I'm as ignorant to the 'scriptures' as you are to science, it seems. I had a look, and fair enough, there seem to be plenty of mentions within the scriptures.
So, I found this image:
Is that how you see it too?
What I can't grasp, and maybe you can explain, is that these scriptures were written by people, weren't they? Just people a long time ago. Why are they more believable than the science we have now? What makes you believe that what's written is true and why would the world conspire to create this crazy alterative theory?
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| Quote ="bren2k"Whereas you don't need to think for yourself - an ignorant shepherd did all your thinking a couple of thousand years ago.
The hypocrisy is by turns maddening, and hilarious.
Yours,
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He may be used to dealing with multiple personalities, but I'm not!
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| Quote ="Doom&Gloom Merchant"No need for the personal stuff Stanley, I'm genuinely interested. I'm as ignorant to the 'scriptures' as you are to science, it seems. I had a look, and fair enough, there seem to be plenty of mentions within the scriptures.
What I can't grasp, and maybe you can explain, is that these scriptures were written by people, weren't they? Just people a long time ago. Why are they more believable than the science we have now? What makes you believe that what's written is true and why would the world conspire to create this crazy alterative theory?'"
[iOkay i'll be brutally honest and you might not like what i say but i know who we're dealing with and you don't hence the ignorant mocking.
Firstly you're simply not interested in scripture. You wouldn't mock it. Secondly i have researched and invested a lot of time and energy into the workings and dealings within the Occult. Now these Satanists invented "science" did you know that. These Occultist's believe in The Bible and not "science"did you know that. These Occultist's made up concocted "Scientism" to deceive the masses 500 years ago when Christianity was huge in them days. Now Occultists are Satanists and they've deceived and fooled everybody with "science" to hide the Creationist Divined world by adopting the Heliocentric, evolutionary, Religious viewpoint which is everything opposite to what our Creator created. Now bringing in this new religion half a millennia ago they the Occultists eradicated two Books out of the Bible The Book of Enoch and The Book of Jasher which became the well known King James Bible. Now the two deleted books were very much dedicated and favoured towards A Fixed Geocentric plane hence their eradication of the two scriptures by the Freemasonic monarchy coincidence yeah right.
And the Scriptures wasn't just written by Man, they were written by Prophets. Not these Occultists what you aspire too today. See this is what makes me laugh in amazement. You gladly mock me and The Bible saying its just ancient fantasy yet you'll believe a bunch of Satanists claiming Science is real to which nobody understands so they take it as real because a man in a white coat says so with no evidence to back it.
Darwin was an Occultist/Satanist. He invented Evolutionist Theories to swerve your notions away from God's Creational Geocentric world when in fact he didn't believe in his own bull as his god is Satan from the Biblical text. Even Freemasons believe in the Creation account and the Stationary Earth, they just love/want to hide it from you,don't forget 500 years ago there was no technology to challenge their Theories so they got away with it. Technology improved they then invented NASA to do more fooling and everybody fell for it Now since the sixties, technology improved so they faked the Moon Landing. Fake Space race fake Apollo missions, fake Hubble, fake ISS, to fake everything NASA does today. there's a spiritual war and they've caught you hook line and sinker. They've deceived you into a religion without you knowing and you're backing Satanists to the hilt by mocking me. You need to research Freemasonry and think for yourself because they run and control absolutely everyone and everything without you even knowing. You believe everything the media tells you. There's no doubt you're indoctrinated and programmed without knowing, at least i chose my faith, whereas yours was forced blindly. and you continue to back these Satanists who hold you in spiritual captivity. Unless you've done your homework on the occult you'll never truly understand.[/i
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| I find it amazing that in the modern age someone can dismiss reality and the proof that provides it in favour of one creation myth among thousands backed-up with nothing more than wishful thinking. The stupid thing is, science doesn't have any questions or answers on gods, because the process deals with what can be tested and figured out. There's plenty of room for religious belief among all the different religions as long as they see their old books for what they are. Old mythology full of metaphors. There's plenty of religious people who do accept reality and science thankfully, leaving the wild fringe believers to their own twisted versions of reality that they create for themselves. There's ignorance and there's willful ignorance. The extremes fit into the latter. Belief can make you pretty strange.
Stan, for instance, has no trouble in believing in a flat young earth with the sun and moon only a few thousand miles away with no real evidence or proof. Plenty of straw grasping, but no evidence. But has to make up wild and unproven fantasies to dismiss hundreds of years of evidence-backed science, and thinks that everything in the sky is a hologram.
He genuinely doesn't see the errors in his point of view, which is slightly alarming.
Staggering really.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"I find it amazing that in the modern age someone can dismiss reality and the proof that provides it in favour of one creation myth among thousands backed-up with nothing more than wishful thinking. The stupid thing is, science doesn't have any questions or answers on gods, because the process deals with what can be tested and figured out. There's plenty of room for religious belief among all the different religions as long as they see their old books for what they are. Old mythology full of metaphors. There's plenty of religious people who do accept reality and science thankfully, leaving the wild fringe believers to their own twisted versions of reality that they create for themselves. There's ignorance and there's willful ignorance. The extremes fit into the latter. Belief can make you pretty strange.
Stan, for instance, has no trouble in believing in a flat young earth with the sun and moon only a few thousand miles away with no real evidence or proof. Plenty of straw grasping, but no evidence. But has to make up wild and unproven fantasies to dismiss hundreds of years of evidence-backed science, and thinks that everything in the sky is a hologram.
He genuinely doesn't see the errors in his point of view, which is slightly alarming.
Staggering really.'"
I think stan was talking to Doom and Gloom before you butted in. Isn't your religion Doom and Gloom hehehe
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| Quote ="whothefeckisalice"I think stan was talking to Doom and Gloom before you butted in. Isn't your religion Doom and Gloom hehehe'"
I was posting some thoughts on the subject in a public forum, before you butted in of course.
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| hey Stan - re your sig -
Quote "Isaiah 11:12.... the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH.
Isaiah 40:22 ... the CIRCLE OF THE EARTH"'"
This Isaiah dude ... what was he smoking? You make much of the point that a circle can't be a globe. But you inexplicably IGNORE your man Isaiah's completely inconsistent claim that Earth has "FOUR CORNERS".
I mean, it's not as if scriptures aren't completely full of guff, contradictions and archaic flowery meaningless nonsense, but really, how can you quote these fundamentally incompatible descriptions in your sig, without realizing that Isaiah is seemingly just winging it, and can't remember what he said from one verse to the next?
A circle, with four corners, Stan?
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| I don't hold out any hope that he may admit a slight error in his reasoning...
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| Haha.
Absolute comedy gold.
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| [iEverything we are told about black holes, the big bang theory, etc. rely on infinity, infinity is impossible in reality, so forget about the new Gravity Wave theory and all the other nonsense that astrophysics research, the astrophysicists don't know anything about the universe and they admit it. [url=https://youtu.be/ouXX2R8fq_0HHHa Straight From The Horses Mouth.[/url
Secular indoctrinated scientists will have you believe that only the most intelligent incredible minds of science, theorize and understand intelligently that life and all matter of space and time come out of a random accident from an explosion out of nothing. So intelligence and creativity, creating things for and with a purpose in mind come out of randomness and unpredictable occurrence. Logically wouldn't one come to the conclusion that if there is no willfull minded intelligent Creator behind consciousness then there can be no standard or absolutes or otherwise to base your level of intelligence on. In fact there can be no intelligence if there was never an intelligence to begin with.
In fact the worldly accepted secular scientific establishment present creation as as some kind of complex elaborate equation based on foolish unscientific theories created from their imaginations in defiance of the Biblical God. There is a divine order to the Creation and to try and explain it as some kind of thoughtless, randomness type of explosion that came out of nothing yet presents itself with purpose, meaning and order is a contradiction to reason and intelligence let alone the practice of observational science in the study of matter. [/i
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Haha.
Absolute comedy gold.'"
It surely is. Science
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"[There is a divine order to the Creation'"
Dare I ask, again, when it happened?
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| Quote ="bren2k"Dare I ask, again, when it happened?'"
Sorry but we're talking about the Gravitational wave injection and the claim by Michio Kaku that Einstein's theories are total horse manure. Hehehe. Do you have a opinion on Michio's claim.?
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| Quote ="bren2k"Dare I ask, again, when it happened?'"
[iA lot sooner than you think Butcher Boy.[/i
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| Quote ="whothefeckisalice"Sorry but we're talking about the Gravitational wave injection and the claim by Michio Kaku that Einstein's theories are total horse manure. Hehehe. Do you have a opinion on Michio's claim.?'"
No - [url=http://observer.com/2016/02/michio-kaku-explains-gravitational-waves-as-baby-pictures-of-the-big-bang/I'll let him do it.[/url
Seems pretty unequivocal, yes?
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| Quote ="bren2k"No - [url=http://observer.com/2016/02/michio-kaku-explains-gravitational-waves-as-baby-pictures-of-the-big-bang/I'll let him do it.[/url
Seems pretty unequivocal, yes?'"
Well he's contradicting himself as my clip shows. He admitted Einstein's infinity law is flawed so Gravitational waves are debunked and hoaxed at the same time pardon the pun. Simples
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