HaHaHa Game Set And Match to you. Whoooosh.

The Butcher isn't me - he got the brains, I got the looks.

So - for the second time; explain the question and I'm happy to respond - I asked you to do that before Stan, but you ignored me. I believe I also asked how life on earth was created and how long we've been here, but you swerved that one too...

Mr Butcher and his many alter ego's

Angry level: Nil (I've said many times I am amused by your ramblings). But don't let me stop you continuing to make everything up as you go along!
Ad hominem arguments: none (but you might usefully look up wtf that Latin phrase means). I just demolish your drivel. Nothing personal. Learn the difference.
Pointing out you are delusional / trolling / both: guilty as charged.

"If the satellite was worthy of allocating packages" - one of your most risible pieces of drivel yet, Stan. Absolutely total scientific illiteracy. Not worth my dog responding to. Grow up and at least learn the first semblance of a given subject, would you? There's a good chap.

Then, in response to several simple points and questions, instead of answering a single one, you put this drivel:

1. I asked you about SATELLITE phones.
2. As predicted - you have no answer.
3. What have you "cleared up"? People have repeatedly exposed your utter drivel for what it is, and put simple questions which do the same job, and you simply will not answer. Of course, because you can't!

You have no answer to any of the numerous questions several people have been putting to you.
Do you think people don't notice?

Anyway, I have embarrassed you enough for one evening.

Ok - I won't ask again.

[iGee Whizz how many times can you slag someone off in one post. Weird Obsessive Emotional behaviour. From my point of view it appears to me you are trying to create the illusion that the dishes have the pinpoint accuracy of a sniper at maniacal distances, I don't buy that. The dishes point in the general direction with a vast area of low orbital space to capture the signal. I don't buy that. You are attempting to create the illusion that a satellite will always be in precisely the exact location give or take a few microns even in geostationary models. I don't buy that either. Nothing on earth could aim up that high with pinpoint precision. If that were true you would keep losing the signal just by the vibrations the wind incurs on the building or structure supporting the dish. Just like the sniper rifle will miss the target by a vast margin for the slightest twitch at the sending end. You must start appreciating the distances involved here. Sky TV is Analogue Transmitted always has Always will.[/i

How weird. Your post says "The dishes point in the general direction with a vast area of low orbital space" - but before now, you've been claiming they don't, you've insisted they point at ground based mysterious towers that nobody has ever seen. Are they like Schrodingers dishes then, they point two diffferent ways at the same time?

Next, what's this "orbital space"? Someone who believed in the shoit about a flat earth wouldn't acknowledge orbital space, as you can only orbit a globe. Slip showing, Mr. Troll?

Next you tell me I "You must start appreciating the distances involved here". What distances, Stan? The distance to the geostationary satellite which doesn't exist? I have always appreciated the distances very well. Before now, you've always insisted they are untrue, that there are no satellites, and that the Earth is not a globe.

What, then, are your current personal co-ordinates? Because if I didn't know better, I would guess on a road heading somewhere towards Damascus!

Anyone who actually wanted to know the first thing about Sky satellite transmission would learn within seconds of googling that the satellites transmit their signals in a huge footprint that covers the whole UK at reasonable signal strength, but the outer parts of the signal, even though it is now tighter than it once was, can be picked up far afield in Europe - if you have a big enough dish to compensate for the weak signal.

Your scientific illiteracy is bizarre. The alignment of the dish simply governs how strong the signal is. Align it exactly (as they do) and you'll get the strongest signal available at that location. Slightly misalign it, and you'll still get a signal, but it will not be as strong.

Your top-of-your -head alignment theory is stupid too. I have a pretty cheap electrical alignment system on my telescope that has absolutely no problem in keeping a star MOVING with the rotation of the Earth constantly in the centre of the field of view for hours. That's a moving target, light years away. Not a geostationary target, a mere 22,000 miles away.

I already explained why it's not actually possible to transmit all those channels in analogue. But if you've discovered some scientific breakthrough that makes it possible - please, share it with the world. It would be nice to be conversing with a scientific genius who knows how to achieve something previously considered impossible. What's the secret, Stan? Can't wait!

Gee Whizz you're tristing this conversation again. Read my post again. I actually said. "=#BF0000 From my point of view it appears to me you are trying to create the illusion that the dishes have the pinpoint accuracy of a sniper at maniacal distances, I don't buy that. The dishes point in the general direction with a vast area of low orbital space to capture the signal.I don't buy that. You are attempting to create the illusion that a satellite will always be in precisely the exact location give or take a few microns even in geostationary models. I don't buy that either. =#800040[i[uNothing on earth could aim up that high with pinpoint precisio[/u[/in.[i If that were true you would keep losing the signal just by the vibrations the wind incurs on the building or structure supporting the dish. Just like the sniper rifle will miss the target by a vast margin for the slightest twitch at the sending end. You must start appreciating the distances involved here. Sky TV is Analogue Transmitted always has Always will.[/i
[i
Why are you having so much difficulty proving the veracity of the geosychronous orbit claims? So far its always Stanley this, burden that, disprove bla,bla, bla. You sound like a scratched vinyl music record skipping over and over and over. Just let me know when you have something to prove the geostationary satellites claim beyond a reasonable doubt. You don't even seem to give a crap how easy making a geostationary Satellite claim is for the hoaxsters, who can go up and check, eh?

Let's say for the sake of argument that you know for a fact that the belts are impossible to approach or breach. Now, how are you going to offer the communication benefits they say geostationary Satellites offers in that situation? Are you going to throw in the towel and give up or will the pressures of development and progress force you to apply your mind to the development of Ground based networking technologies that have mimicked the Satellite hoax. No doubt this post will be torn and twisted to cranial name calling.[/i

Your post is gibberish. You are ranting. You make no point worth responding to. You have a catalogue of hard fact evidence and unanswered questions so it is up to yu to at least pick one and give an answer. Incoherent rants don't cut it.

Isn't there a bloke up there now who can do just that? I know it hasn't really been covered say, by every international and domestic media outlet in the world, but if you dig around on Google, you might find something.

Start with Tim Peake, and see where it takes you...

You're asking a lot of him there Bren.

So, gravitational waves anyone...?



The half second of collision, and subsequent merging, of two black holes a billion light years away/ago, is detected and recorded on earth, proving conclusively that Einstein was right all along with his wickedly masonic general theory of relativity; physicists all over the world do a little sex wee as a window into the creation of the universe is tentatively opened, while creationists carry out a collective worldwide facepalm as they realise that their position just became even more untenable...

Who needs God - this stuff has far more majesty and wonder than any made up story about burning bushes and child sacrifice.

[iHi Butch.. More Mainstream Bull for the sleepless sheeple to digest. [url=http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-technology/scientists-completely-fail-to-explain-gravitational-waves-20160212106140Even Scientists Can't Even Explain it.[/url I expected you to just wave it away as its just another example of conspiracy scientists fudging the data to fit their model Thats All it is. [/i =#BF0000[iA Famous Einstein Quote "If the Facts Don't Fit The Theory:- Change The Facts": Simples [/i

You do realise The Daily Mash is a satire site don't you????? You were so proud of your internet search for this piece of 'news' that you even sent me it in a PM. What a complete and utter moron you are. Do you honestly think anyone takes you seriously? You're just a troll trying to wind people up for you own unexplainable pleasure.

[iTroll. You're the one who constantly abuses. Mr King of the one lined sentences. The Daily Mash is a pi55take of a pi55take[/i.

Stan though the Daily Mash was a science publication!

Nothing quite like rigorous research...





No. I'm sure this is an isolated mistake.

Stan's signature makes interesting reading:

"Isaiah 11:12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH.

Isaiah 40:22 He sits enthroned above the CIRCLE OF THE EARTH and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.

First of all, a circle is not a ball or sphere A circle is a flat round surface"


Whoever this Isaiah bloke is, he needs to get his story straight, or Papa Francisco needs to get the Tip-ex out and alter that bible. I've not seen many circles with 'corners'.

[iFour corners of the Earth. Simples Nice to see the typical ignorant Atheist dismissing and disrespecting scripture without even thinking [/i

The four quadrants of the Earth.

[iUnlucky. As you'll see in this [url=http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quadrantThesaurus Link[/url the word Quadrant was introduced in 1340. Well AFTER the days of Isaiah unfortunately.[/i

Just goes to show how out of date Isaiah's thinking is.

I don't have to respect Biblical 'scripture' any more than any other written fiction.

Circles don't have corners.


Does Isaiah make any reference to the giant ice walls or the dome?

It's fairly easy to dismiss, since it has no evidence base or any of those pesky facts to back it up; it is therefore a rather quaint story of magic and mysticism, based on a set of contrivances used to explain what was then but no longer is, the unexplainable.

Conversely, you and others of your ilk, glibly dismiss well researched, peer reviewed and scientifically irrefutable facts simply because they don't fit your celestial big brother belief system. Go figure.