Really? didn't watch the grotesque show so was not aware of this.

No mention of that here:

[urlhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2013/apr/17/protesters-turn-backs-thatcher-coffin[/url

You can't even bring yourself to give them credit for showing dignity, can you?

Aside from barely a handful, they didn't even show up. Not showing up doesn't equate to showing dignity! And those who booed and yelled things didn't show dignity. The two protestors with placards who said nothing did show dignity. So that's two protestors who showed dignity. All the rest were either all mouth and no action (didn't show up at all) or didn't show dignity. Sky had to dig very hard to find any protestors at all and the BBC made right fools of themselves before the service actively seeking protestors but repeatedly failing to find any.

If you read Dave0's link (above) to your beloved [iGuardian[/i, there were about 300 who said nothing and showed dignity.

Did you attend?

Never read the Guardian myself. I bet though they would claim 300 protestors who said nothing. However, I don't believe much of what the Gruniad says when it comes to Thatcher's funeral, or indeed anything to do with Thatcher. Lefties aren't really known for being accurate when it comes to Thatcher.


Nope. But had I not been unemployed then I would have done so gladly.

No he sorted himslf out on the settee whilst watching it

Of course you walked the whole route just to check that didn't you?

Quote ="SaintsFan"Never read the Guardian myself. I bet though they would claim 300 protestors who said nothing. However, I don't believe much of what the Gruniad says when it comes to Thatcher's funeral, or indeed anything to do with Thatcher. Lefties aren't really known for being accurate when it comes to Thatcher. '" Telegraph too. Bit of a conundrum this eh? www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... offin.html

Quote ="SaintsFan"Never read the Guardian myself. I bet though they would claim 300 protestors who said nothing. However, I don't believe much of what the Gruniad says when it comes to Thatcher's funeral, or indeed anything to do with Thatcher. Lefties aren't really known for being accurate when it comes to Thatcher. '" Telegraph too. Bit of a conundrum this eh? www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... offin.html

Quote ="El Barbudo"Telegraph too. Bit of a conundrum this eh? www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... offin.html'" Not at all. That was the protest I was talking about - the booing. Hardly dignified. And as for that twit of a 22 year old, he was probably the one interviewed on Sky who sounded like he was spaced on weed.

Quote ="El Barbudo"Telegraph too. Bit of a conundrum this eh? www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... offin.html'" Not at all. That was the protest I was talking about - the booing. Hardly dignified. And as for that twit of a 22 year old, he was probably the one interviewed on Sky who sounded like he was spaced on weed.

There was quite a poignant phone call to Radio Leeds today after the question was asked about whether listeners thought that the cost of the funeral should be borne by the taxpayer and whether or not it was worth the money (whatever it will eventually cost) - a woman rang and said that her seven year old child had died in January '11 and as she was on benefits she had applied to see if there was any sort of funeral grant available - the reply was that because the child had "assets" in their "estate" which amounted to the £250 Child Trust Fund payment that had been made and put into an ISA, then the only death grant that could be made was for £56.

Sort of put the £10million into context really, and I never knew that the Child Trust Fund was also intended to bury your child in the unfortunate event of their premature death - apparently it is.

If you have never read it why would you bet it said anything? You couldnt possibly know.

How actually can you have formed an opinion on a newspaper you have never read? You have no more idea about the Guardians standpoint than you do the Thanh Nien Daily.

I much preferred the fool on BBC breakfast.
He was asked if £8M was value and his answer was 'yes' clearly no schools or libraries are being closed near him.

But the 300, they now exist do they, now it's been in the Torygraph?

That puts it into perspective.
But I guess the response from our resident rightwing fruitcake contingent is going to be that you shouldn't have kids if you can't afford their funeral.

As is so often the case when people telephone radio phone-ins, I suspect there is more to it than that.

I am not sure what happens with something held on trust when the beneficiary dies. Does it automatically go to their estate? Can a child even have legal title to anything?

Sadly you know I don't think there would be, its a matter of fact that the vast majority of parents simply don't believe that their children will die and don't insure them - they will insure themselves to make sure their spouse and children are ok, but they don't insure their children alone, I never did, never crossed my mind to do so and I don't ever recall an insurance policy aimed at protecting parents from the cost of a childs funeral.

All of which means that when a child does die the funeral costs are probably the second biggest shock that the parent gets - I did a small bit of fund raising a couple of years ago for a friend of a friend who's young boy had died in his sleep one night, they were helped out by family to pay for the funeral but the one thing that most parents of deceased children want is a memorial stone and they are horrendously priced and usually out of reach cost-wise - thats why this friend of a friend set up the Joseph Salmon Trust to help parents of deceased children immediately after their bereavement, and its been met with a huge demand even in their small area of operation.

So am I surprised that there is very little help for parents at that awful time in their lives - no.
Am I surprised that they take into account the Child Trust Fund when assessing for a funeral grant - 12 months ago I would have been appalled, but now, nothing surprises me at all.

Did someone say her ashes were in turd?

That's actually made me cry.

Can I just check, was this a Coalition change, or was it the same under Labour?

Have a read of the web site of The Joseph Salmon Trust and of the case studies they have helped, you'll be bawling,

And the thing that most surprised them is that the people who they have helped often go on to fund raise for the charity and raise more than they were helped out with, its a community thing.

I haven't a clue, such things matter not to me.

Sad story. I'm not convinced that the Thatcher funeral really has cost as much as £10million though.

I mean no disrespect to the child's family but were they expecting the streets to be lined (10 deep in parts), protests, a military escort, the attendance of the Queen and Duke, The PM and cabinet, the leader of the opposition and various foriegn leaders and dignitaries? The security for this will naturally cost a lot of money.

Do we know how much Thatcher's estate/Her family have contributed to the day?

Do we kno

No but it was confirmed on the BBC today that Thatcher's estate is definitely making a contribution. We also know that there is going to be a full audit of the costs.

The Boston bombings added to the security cost as more police were drafted in due to nobody knowing whether the Boston bombings were the work of an international terrorist group prior to the funeral.

I also learned today that all funerals of former prime ministers are funded by the state, so it's just a question of by how much and as yet no definitive cost for Thatcher's funeral has been provided. There has only been media speculation.

No. I don't read the Telegraph either. I read The Times (but I don't pay a quid to read their online version). If they come up with 300 as well then all that will tell me is that they have all got their information from the same source. I very much doubt correspondents from each paper went up to the group and counted them. There certainly didn't look like 300 when the Sky cameras were there.

But according to the leftie media, and I include the BBC in that, there was going to be loads of trouble at the funeral today, that's if anyone actually turned up (since obviously everyone hated Thatcher too much to bother turning up).

As it happened, apart from a couple of boos all I heard on TV was lots of applause in some places and respectful silence in others, and then some pretty desperate attempts by Sky and the BBC after the funeral to hunt out some protesters. Of those, the only comments I heard were about the cost of the funeral. Hardly a revolution on the streets.