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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Sorry squire but, you're so wide of the mark that you've just hit the corner flag but, of course, like me, you are very welcome to express an opinion.
As for my bezzie mate, you seem to be trying to discredit me "by association" . I know who you are but, I dont know Scarlett, other than reading some of his posts. - Again, nice try but, another miss.'"
I've only got your word for it that I'm so wide of the mark, tell me where you get your information from regarding Boris & co, or like your fellow conspirators do you just make it up, I'm sure you don't have a direct line to Labour HQ so I can only assume you do the next best thing for you and that's hang on every word the Labour rags print, and remember this, having an opinion does not necessarily mean it's true, and can I take it by your comment on your alleged bezzie mate that your not too impressed by him with your eagerness to distance yourself from him  |
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Quote ="chissitt"I've only got your word for it that I'm so wide of the mark, tell me where you get your information from regarding Boris & co, or like your fellow conspirators do you just make it up, I'm sure you don't have a direct line to Labour HQ so I can only assume you do the next best thing for you and that's hang on every word the Labour rags print, and remember this, having an opinion does not necessarily mean it's true, and can I take it by your comment on your alleged bezzie mate that your not too impressed by him with your eagerness to distance yourself from him
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Oh dear.
We have now entered full jackanory mode.
As for my regular comments and distain for Bojo, you dont have to Einstein to see that he is a political "chancer".
2 years before the Brexit referendum he was pro European:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 63781.html
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 70296.html
Nuff said
I thought that one so worldly as your good self would have seen through him. Life really is full of surprises
As for my "bezzie mate", I merely pointed out that despite your false connection, I dont know the bloke.
You seem to be jumping to conclusions, squire.
(btw, I've tried to put links that aren't from the "Labour press", hopefully The Independent and Standard are acceptable.
There are literally hundreds more examples if you need them. Just type "Boris Johnson pro European" into your search engine.
There doesn't seem to be anything pre2016 where he advocated leaving  |
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Oh dear.
We have now entered full jackanory mode.
As for my regular comments and distain for Bojo, you dont have to Einstein to see that he is a political "chancer".
2 years before the Brexit referendum he was pro European:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/p ... 63781.html
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politic ... 70296.html
Nuff said
I thought that one so worldly as your good self would have seen through him. Life really is full of surprises
As for my "bezzie mate", I merely pointed out that despite your false connection, I dont know the bloke.
You seem to be jumping to conclusions, squire.
(btw, I've tried to put links that aren't from the "Labour press", hopefully The Independent and Standard are acceptable.
There are literally hundreds more examples if you need them. Just type "Boris Johnson pro European" into your search engine.
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It would appear Labour haven't learned any lessons - £15hr is bonkers - how is this affordable wouldn't this simply lead to rampant inflation. Minimum wage in Germany is lower than here and we consider them the most efficient organised economy in the EU.
£28bn a year on climate change - seriously!!
Less said about a Cervix the better - I cannot believe this is an even been discussed - no male has a cervix like no female has a penis - these are not difficult concepts. Surely Labour have better stuff to discuss?
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"It would appear Labour haven't learned any lessons - £15hr is bonkers - how is this affordable wouldn't this simply lead to rampant inflation. Minimum wage in Germany is lower than here and we consider them the most efficient organised economy in the EU.
£28bn a year on climate change - seriously!!
Less said about a Cervix the better - I cannot believe this is an even been discussed - no male has a cervix like no female has a penis - these are not difficult concepts. Surely Labour have better stuff to discuss?'"
The moon on a stick is what they promise, trouble is though nobody believes it anymore apart from the gullible of which it appears there's quite a few on here |
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There's a global labour shortage, so a higher minimum wage maybe the stimulus needed to alleviate that.
As for spending on climate change? It's the biggest issue we face, and will have the biggest affect on our lives and the world economy in the years ahead. So, we need to be approaching it with the same ferocity we did with covid and ww2.
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"It would appear Labour haven't learned any lessons - £15hr is bonkers - how is this affordable wouldn't this simply lead to rampant inflation. Minimum wage in Germany is lower than here and we consider them the most efficient organised economy in the EU.
£28bn a year on climate change - seriously!!
Less said about a Cervix the better - I cannot believe this is an even been discussed - no male has a cervix like no female has a penis - these are not difficult concepts. Surely Labour have better stuff to discuss?'"
Labour's spending plans always seem to be portrayed a "stupid" and unaffordable.
However, with climate change, there will be a tipping point at some point in the future. We may already be there and then money wont be the problem.
My mum always said that money is no use to you when you're dead and she was right !
Labour really need to concentrate on being united and having some policies for the masses.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Labour's spending plans always seem to be portrayed a "stupid" and unaffordable.
However, with climate change, there will be a tipping point at some point in the future. We may already be there and then money wont be the problem.
My mum always said that money is no use to you when you're dead and she was right !
Labour really need to concentrate on being united and having some policies for the masses.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
Right now, they seem incapable of organising the proverbial brewery pi$$ up'"
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Labour's spending plans always seem to be portrayed a "stupid" and unaffordable.
However, with climate change, there will be a tipping point at some point in the future. We may already be there and then money wont be the problem.
My mum always said that money is no use to you when you're dead and she was right !
Labour really need to concentrate on being united and having some policies for the masses.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.
Right now, they seem incapable of organising the proverbial brewery pi$$ up'"
Climate change only works if its a global endeavour no point us bankrupting every citizen when the likes of China/India & the US don't care. Whilst ever we make policies due to NIMBY like fracking we will never achieve sustainable reliable energy. The likes of wind and solar are unpredictable at best irresponsible at worst. I fail to see why we don't go all in with nuclear? |
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"Climate change only works if its a global endeavour no point us bankrupting every citizen when the likes of China/India & the US don't care. Whilst ever we make policies due to NIMBY like fracking we will never achieve sustainable reliable energy. The likes of wind and solar are unpredictable at best irresponsible at worst. I fail to see why we don't go all in with nuclear?'"
I agree, although wind and solar aren't quite as "unpredictable" as you suggest.
As for nuclear, it's incredible that after so much time "we" havent been able to find a way of dealing with nuclear waste
China and India are a huge problem.
Despite being huge nations with over a billion people in each country, they are still "developing" nations and their thirst for energy is still growing quickly and it's difficult for countries like the US or Europe to tell them to cut their emissions and effectively try to "hold them back". The same, to a much lesser extent, applies to Africa. |
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The UK's historical greenhouse gas emissions dwarf that of China and India, plus China is a world leader in renewable energy, and climate change technologies. It has also ceased all overseas funding of coal power stations.
Investing in climate change isn't just about renewable energy, it's about improving transport infrastructure, job creation, flood defence, and sustainable agriculture. All of which will have benefits beyond reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
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| Quote ="JONNYGIANT"Until they move away from the hard left ,ie get shot of Momentum they will remain a spent force'"
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| Quote ="silver2"I assume you're aware that for political equilibrium, there will also be a hard right.
So, I wonder where they are? Which party do they migrate towards - and what damage have they done to the UK in recent years?'"
I'm talking purely about the Labour party ,your kind of socialism has been dead in this country since the late seventies
and quite rightly you know been beholden to the unions, we could never be a Norway type of a socialist country unfortunately |
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We could have been had we used our oil wealth the same way they did.
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"We could have been had we used our oil wealth the same way they did.'"
Not with militant unions mate, always wanting more |
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Or the businesses wanting to give less or are you naive enough to believe that this government is not going to water down employment rights. The unions are actually probably more democratic and the reason many don’t like them is because they cannot be bullied unlike one individual worker.
I have seen where because of those that are part of a union negotiating better conditions and then people like you who like to criticise are happy to accept the benefits despite not contributing.
It’s a pity their pay awards are not handled the same way that those of business leaders are.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Or the businesses wanting to give less or are you naive enough to believe that this government is not going to water down employment rights. The unions are actually probably more democratic and the reason many don’t like them is because they cannot be bullied unlike one individual worker.
I have seen where because of those that are part of a union negotiating better conditions and then people like you who like to criticise are happy to accept the benefits despite not contributing.
It’s a pity their pay awards are not handled the same way that those of business leaders are.'"
Like the opposite of Brexit, where something is voted in and we all take a hit.  |
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Or the businesses wanting to give less or are you naive enough to believe that this government is not going to water down employment rights. The unions are actually probably more democratic and the reason many don’t like them is because they cannot be bullied unlike one individual worker.
I have seen where because of those that are part of a union negotiating better conditions and then people like you who like to criticise are happy to accept the benefits despite not contributing.
It’s a pity their pay awards are not handled the same way that those of business leaders are.'"
Just remind me about Len Mccluskey,s pay
And Arthur Scargills millions ,and what evidence have you got about the government watering down rights of the worker's rights, that's right none ,explain about democracy in unite please  |
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Or the businesses wanting to give less or are you naive enough to believe that this government is not going to water down employment rights. The unions are actually probably more democratic and the reason many don’t like them is because they cannot be bullied unlike one individual worker.
I have seen where because of those that are part of a union negotiating better conditions and then people like you who like to criticise are happy to accept the benefits despite not contributing.
It’s a pity their pay awards are not handled the same way that those of business leaders are.'"
Just remind me about Len Mccluskey,s pay
And Arthur Scargills millions ,and what evidence have you got about the government watering down rights of the worker's , that's right none ,explain about democracy in unite please
We didn't do as Scargill said do da do da ,is a song Forest fans will be singing at Barnsley on Saturday ,after the usual scab chants by the tykes  |
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That would explain a lot about you because it was the Nottinghamshire miners who believed Thatcher and became her enablers, how did that end up. How many pits survived in the Nottinghamshire area and what happened to the union they started with the governments help. They were sold down the river for believing she actually cared.
I would ask why were the government so insistent on not putting current EU employment law into U.K. law like they said they would. If you think it is to make them stronger then you are more a fool than I already think you are.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Like the opposite of Brexit, where something is voted in and we all take a hit.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"That would explain a lot about you because it was the Nottinghamshire miners who believed Thatcher and became her enablers, how did that end up. How many pits survived in the Nottinghamshire area and what happened to the union they started with the governments help. They were sold down the river for believing she actually cared.
I would ask why were the government so insistent on not putting current EU employment law into U.K. law like they said they would. If you think it is to make them stronger then you are more a fool than I already think you are.'"
It was the idiot that is Scargill that enabled Maggie
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I would ask why were the government so insistent on not putting current EU employment law into U.K. law like they said they would. If you think it is to make them stronger then you are more a fool than I already think you are.'"
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| Quote ="chissitt"Can't work out whose the ventriloquist and whose the dummy in you two.'"
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Not sure how you work that out squire, if your looking for work they need a good double act at a circus down in Brighton, one of the clowns called Starmer brought the house down when he said we need to get our house in order for the next election, even you and your mate couldn't follow that. |
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| Quote ="chissitt"Not sure how you work that out squire, if your looking for work they need a good double act at a circus down in Brighton, one of the clowns called Starmer brought the house down when he said we need to get our house in order for the next election, even you and your mate couldn't follow that.'"
Since Cilla Black passed away, they have been looking for a new matchmaker, you should apply.
Myself and Scarlett may share some of the same political views but, disappointingly for you, we dont know each other.
I know that you have some kind of unhealthy obsession with his private life but, bloody hell, this is becoming a little tiresome. Dont you think.
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