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| Quote ="Knuckles"You must be a teacher. No wonder our kids can't read and write, Tony Blairs legacy. Plus 2 wars he got into, and you have a pop at Thatcher, hypocrite !'"
I could only be a hypocrite if I'd praised Blair for his legacy or even voted for him. Neither happen to be the case.
And Blair gets plenty of criticism on here.
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| Quote ="Knuckles"Contempt, even better. My work is done.'"
You wanted people to think you were contemptible?
You understand what contempt is, yes?
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Boasting about being a scab makes you look like a complete w@nker.'"
Every post you ever make, whatever the topic, makes you look like a complete w@nker.
What's your point?
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"No-one forces people to work for a particular company. Last time I checked, slavery was still illegal.'"
Quote ="Horatio Yed"When i look to join a company, i look at the pay, terms/conditions etc.
If i'm not happy i look elsewhere.
Why would i join a company i wasn't happy with and then moan and strike when i knew what i was getting into.'"
Do neither of you pay any attention to the unemployment figures? Or do you just not understand what they mean?
While some highly skilled workers in a handful of sectors might be able to pick and choose employers, or waltz out of one company and straight into the same job at another, the situation is very different for the vast majority of ordinary workers. If they don't like the job they're in they have two options - put up with it or join the 'shirkers' on the dole. That's where the Unions come in.
The other thing you might consider is that things change over time. You might be perfectly happy with wages and conditions when you joing, only to find at some point down the line that they change for the worse.
Honestly, given the number of times those on the right exhort people to 'live in the real world' you'd expect more of them to have at least some passing familiarity with it themselves.
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| Quote ="Kosh"BT were making a profit when they were sold off for peanuts.'"
Were they ?
It was still a public monopoly deserving of privatisation though, prime for privatisation, probably the best argument for privatisation was the UK's telephony system in the 1980s, and they still have a monopoly albeit they now trade with a more commercial attitude.
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| Quote ="fartownfan"Every post you ever make, whatever the topic, makes you look like a complete w@nker.
What's your point?'"
I must have missed your pearls of wisdom as i dont remember you posting much on the sin bin..
The point of the last post is very simple scabs are beneath contempt.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"I must have missed your pearls of wisdom as i dont remember you posting much on the sin bin..
The point of the last post is very simple scabs are beneath contempt.'"
Imo people who use the term "scab" are beneath contempt
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| Just bumped into Lucifer himself sleeping in a cardboard box , hes refusing to go back until him upstairs takes on the the queen with the iron heart
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| Quote ="Kosh"Do neither of you pay any attention to the unemployment figures? Or do you just not understand what they mean?
While some highly skilled workers in a handful of sectors might be able to pick and choose employers, or waltz out of one company and straight into the same job at another, the situation is very different for the vast majority of ordinary workers. If they don't like the job they're in they have two options - put up with it or join the 'shirkers' on the dole. That's where the Unions come in.
The other thing you might consider is that things change over time. You might be perfectly happy with wages and conditions when you joing, only to find at some point down the line that they change for the worse.
Honestly, given the number of times those on the right exhort people to 'live in the real world' you'd expect more of them to have at least some passing familiarity with it themselves.'"
Most of those on the right who exhort 'live in the real world' do exactly that - they have regular jobs in regular companies or is that the preserve of lefties like you?
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| Right Jerk Chicken sorry just read bottom of your feeble argument.
BT was sold off for a fraction of worth to money so money made more money .
Us the majority got kicked in the balls because as still is the case today whoever you get your telephone from BT provides the line,
And they may of been monopolies but you know gas, fuel , electric , BR , steel the list goes on yes they may of been monopolies but they were "OUR" monopolies , we all had a stake.
Now we dont have a pot to in, all cameron is doing now is trying to tax my ,
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Most of those on the right who exhort 'live in the real world' do exactly that - they have regular jobs in regular companies or is that the preserve of lefties like you?'"
Did you have a point you wanted to make?
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"Boasting about being a scab makes you look like a complete w@nker.'"
Crossing a picket line doesn't make you a scab - hospital porters in Bradford went on strike my mother a ward sister not a member of any union crossed the picket line to ensure health care standards on her ward were maintained - that doesn't make her a scab.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Did you have a point you wanted to make?'"
You struggle with comprehension obviously - just because your job is not on the shop floor doesn't mean you don't 'live in the real world' as you suggested - capisci?
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| There's some really nasty people on this thread. Most of them calling Thatcher evil.
Hypocrites.
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| All I can really think to do at this time is to go to Downing Street and carefully place at the gates a life-size inflatable model of ALF.
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| Quote ="McClennan"All I can really think to do at this time is to go to Downing Street and carefully place at the gates a life-size inflatable model of ALF.'"
She's no Queen of Hearts
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| Quote ="muttley cat"Right Jerk Chicken sorry just read bottom of your feeble argument.
BT was sold off for a fraction of worth to money so money made more money .
Us the majority got kicked in the balls because as still is the case today whoever you get your telephone from BT provides the line,
And they may of been monopolies but you know gas, fuel , electric , BR , steel the list goes on yes they may of been monopolies but they were "OUR" monopolies , we all had a stake.
Now we dont have a pot to mickey in, all cameron is doing now is trying to tax my mickey,'"
oooh you're a bit angry aren't you ?
BT were a joke before they were privatised, just stop and think about the last time you paid for calls on your landline, if you pay for calls on your landline at all do you pay more for them in the morning than in the afternoon, do you still rent your telephone handset and is it still the colour they gave you rather than the one you really wanted, if some new technology comes along, lets say someone re-invents the fax machine, do you have to ring your current provider and ask them to come and install your new fax machine for you because it has to be hard wired into the connection box which is in your hallway because thats where BT told you it had to go, thats assuming that they have capacity on the line for another telephonic gadget in your house, round where I lived you were lucky not to be sharing a line and number with a neighbour.
No, I didn't think so, that particular monopoly was tired, lazy, bureaucratic and obstinate, and deserved the massive investment and kick up the backside that privatisation gave it.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"oooh you're a bit angry aren't you ?
BT were a joke before they were privatised, just stop and think about the last time you paid for calls on your landline, if you pay for calls on your landline at all do you pay more for them in the morning than in the afternoon, do you still rent your telephone handset and is it still the colour they gave you rather than the one you really wanted, if some new technology comes along, lets say someone re-invents the fax machine, do you have to ring your current provider and ask them to come and install your new fax machine for you because it has to be hard wired into the connection box which is in your hallway because thats where BT told you it had to go, thats assuming that they have capacity on the line for another telephonic gadget in your house, round where I lived you were lucky not to be sharing a line and number with a neighbour.
No, I didn't think so, that particular monopoly was tired, lazy, bureaucratic and obstinate, and deserved the massive investment and kick up the backside that privatisation gave it.'"
You and others are confusing BT with British Telecom or even Post Office.
BTW it can still take BT six weeks to install a new line
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| Quote ="Kosh"Do neither of you pay any attention to the unemployment figures? Or do you just not understand what they mean?
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The other thing you might consider is that things change over time. You might be perfectly happy with wages and conditions when you joing, only to find at some point down the line that they change for the worse.
Honestly, given the number of times those on the right exhort people to 'live in the real world' you'd expect more of them to have at least some passing familiarity with it themselves.'"
I did post a reply to this but it has mysteriously disappeared........
Typical Lefities. Talk a good story but when they can't answer the argument they resort to the policies of Stalin...........
Laughable.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"I did post a reply to this but it has mysteriously disappeared........
Typical Lefities. Talk a good story but when they can't answer the argument they resort to the policies of Stalin...........
Laughable.'"
"Policies of Stalin"?
You're going beyond parody now
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| Quote ="cod'ead""Policies of Stalin"?
You're going beyond parody now'"
Good old right-wing paranoia, alive and well.
Shall we seal the borders?
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| Quote ="littlerich"There's some really nasty people on this thread. Most of them calling Thatcher evil.
Hypocrites.'"
Yep, I feel sorry for them really. Who will they direct their bitterness and bile at now ? Who are they going to blame for their own inadequacies and inability to achieve in life ?
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| Quote ="samwire"i'm confused. thatcher created a load of wage slaves? how did these people pay for stuff before they became slaves? where did they live? how did they live?
or are we just in "waaahhhh, she's a woman and she's a tory" territory. again.'"
People paid for "stuff" from money they had saved or sometimes through HP. The only real debt a household may have was a mortgage for those who decided to buy rather than rent. But at that time rents accounted for only around 20% of household income, so really were affordable.
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| Quote ="Derwent"Yep, I feel sorry for them really. Who will they direct their bitterness and bile at now ? Who are they going to blame for their own inadequacies and inability to achieve in life ?'"
Don't worry, so long as there are tories left, we won't be lacking any suitable targets
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