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Quote ="LeighGionaire"Perhaps I should have said the "average LOW PAID worker" voted leave. Study's have shown that the lower paid lose out under free movement of Labour - "UK studies find that immigration has small impact on average wages but more significant impacts along the wage distribution: low-waged workers lose while medium and high-paid workers gain" www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.u ... mmigration
So if the majority of workers voted to stay as you claim we can assume it was the medium/high paid workers who selfishly wanted to maintain the status quo, whilst the majority of low paid workers who's wages are adversely affected by the free movement of Labour wanted out. Just looking at the map of the U.K clearly shows all Labour's traditional heartlands, bar inner London and Scotland (who appear to have defected en masse to the SNP), wanted to leave.
As for the young being all for the E.U, l'm pretty sure their sentiment would change if they lived in Greece and saw first hand how the young are being royally screwed over by the E.U and their bankster allies. 50% youth unemployment and being asset stripped while the E.U refuses to let them declare bankruptcy.
The E.U is a neo-liberal super state that uses free movement of labour to drive down wages. Labour will never be relevant again until they acknowledge this fact.'"
Again, I'm just going to take issue with another growing myth here, which is the "only London and Scotland voted Remain". This is based on a map circulating on social media showing the whole country Blue except London and Scotland. It is, unfortunately, .
Birmingham was 50-50, essentially. Its suburbs were strongly Leave. Liverpool, Manchester, Norwich, Bristol, Gloucester, Newcastle, Leicester, Leeds, York, Brighton, Exeter, Cardiff, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Cambridge and Oxford all voted Remain. There's a map circulating social media right now which is very misleading as it ups it to regional level, and rubs out the cities. Essentially, the Cities voted Remain. The suburbs, towns and most of the shores voted Leave. There were also large swathes of the SouthEast commuter corridors which were Remain, from mid-Kent across to Gloucestershire and from up to Cambridge down into Hampshire, plus some sizable slices of Cumbria and Yorkshire.
Produce a map of local authority areas, as opposed to regions, and it's a much more complex picture. And I'm going nowhere near Northern Ireland.
I don't disagree that low-pay immigration hurts low-pay British workers. It seems to me that the evidence for that is fairly clear. What I don't understand is why those same low-paid workers thought that the way to solve this problem was to vote for a campaign led by people who are the leading enthusiasts for low-paid immigrant Labour - Gove and Johnson - rather than electing a Labour Government which might enforce a more rigid minimum wage. As ever, the real answer to low pay is legislation and regulation, not futile attempts to keep out immigrants. I say futile for two reasons: firstly because business wants cheap Labour, and so they'll seek to get it no matter what, as long as they can get away with paying below minimum wage; and secondly, because we already have "control" over non-EU immigration, yet we have more non-EU immigrants than EU immigrants. Leaving the EU will do nothing for immigration numbers per se.
What WILL affect immigrant numbers is the recession which we're about to undergo as a result of this decision, the final collapse of manufacturing as companies relocate inside the EU, and the decline of the City and all the jobs supporting it, as Frankfurt slaps a tax on financial transactions outside the EU. This vote has completely screwed our entire economy. You'll have a hint about that from what's happened in the financial news today. So lots and lots more people are going to be unemployed and on very low pay. But hey, at least fewer Poles will come, because their economy will be doing better inside the EU than ours is doing outside it.
Today we've seen the only case of a democracy voting against its economic self-interest that I can find in the whole of history. And I'm an economic historian, so take my word for that. |
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Quote ="LeighGionaire"Perhaps I should have said the "average LOW PAID worker" voted leave. Study's have shown that the lower paid lose out under free movement of Labour - "UK studies find that immigration has small impact on average wages but more significant impacts along the wage distribution: low-waged workers lose while medium and high-paid workers gain" www.migrationobservatory.ox.ac.u ... mmigration
So if the majority of workers voted to stay as you claim we can assume it was the medium/high paid workers who selfishly wanted to maintain the status quo, whilst the majority of low paid workers who's wages are adversely affected by the free movement of Labour wanted out. Just looking at the map of the U.K clearly shows all Labour's traditional heartlands, bar inner London and Scotland (who appear to have defected en masse to the SNP), wanted to leave.
As for the young being all for the E.U, l'm pretty sure their sentiment would change if they lived in Greece and saw first hand how the young are being royally screwed over by the E.U and their bankster allies. 50% youth unemployment and being asset stripped while the E.U refuses to let them declare bankruptcy.
The E.U is a neo-liberal super state that uses free movement of labour to drive down wages. Labour will never be relevant again until they acknowledge this fact.'"
Again, I'm just going to take issue with another growing myth here, which is the "only London and Scotland voted Remain". This is based on a map circulating on social media showing the whole country Blue except London and Scotland. It is, unfortunately, .
Birmingham was 50-50, essentially. Its suburbs were strongly Leave. Liverpool, Manchester, Norwich, Bristol, Gloucester, Newcastle, Leicester, Leeds, York, Brighton, Exeter, Cardiff, Edinburgh, Glasgow, Cambridge and Oxford all voted Remain. There's a map circulating social media right now which is very misleading as it ups it to regional level, and rubs out the cities. Essentially, the Cities voted Remain. The suburbs, towns and most of the shores voted Leave. There were also large swathes of the SouthEast commuter corridors which were Remain, from mid-Kent across to Gloucestershire and from up to Cambridge down into Hampshire, plus some sizable slices of Cumbria and Yorkshire.
Produce a map of local authority areas, as opposed to regions, and it's a much more complex picture. And I'm going nowhere near Northern Ireland.
I don't disagree that low-pay immigration hurts low-pay British workers. It seems to me that the evidence for that is fairly clear. What I don't understand is why those same low-paid workers thought that the way to solve this problem was to vote for a campaign led by people who are the leading enthusiasts for low-paid immigrant Labour - Gove and Johnson - rather than electing a Labour Government which might enforce a more rigid minimum wage. As ever, the real answer to low pay is legislation and regulation, not futile attempts to keep out immigrants. I say futile for two reasons: firstly because business wants cheap Labour, and so they'll seek to get it no matter what, as long as they can get away with paying below minimum wage; and secondly, because we already have "control" over non-EU immigration, yet we have more non-EU immigrants than EU immigrants. Leaving the EU will do nothing for immigration numbers per se.
What WILL affect immigrant numbers is the recession which we're about to undergo as a result of this decision, the final collapse of manufacturing as companies relocate inside the EU, and the decline of the City and all the jobs supporting it, as Frankfurt slaps a tax on financial transactions outside the EU. This vote has completely screwed our entire economy. You'll have a hint about that from what's happened in the financial news today. So lots and lots more people are going to be unemployed and on very low pay. But hey, at least fewer Poles will come, because their economy will be doing better inside the EU than ours is doing outside it.
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What WILL affect immigrant numbers is the recession which we're about to undergo as a result of this decision, the final collapse of manufacturing as companies relocate inside the EU, and the decline of the City and all the jobs supporting it, as Frankfurt slaps a tax on financial transactions outside the EU. This vote has completely screwed our entire economy. You'll have a hint about that from what's happened in the financial news today. So lots and lots more people are going to be unemployed and on very low pay. But hey, at least fewer Poles will come, because their economy will be doing better inside the EU than ours is doing outside it.
Today we've seen the only case of a democracy voting against its economic self-interest that I can find in the whole of history. And I'm an economic historian, so take my word for that.'"
I think that the remainder of the EU will take a hit because of us leaving. Losing such a powerful economy will hurt it. It would be in their best interest to trade with us with as few restrictions as possible. That's if it even survives the next couple of years. More countries may push for leave.
I was always going to vote for leave so the economic/immigration arguments over the last few weeks haven't swayed me. I partly voted with heart over head, there may be a period of economic uncertainty but at least we will be free and democratic(ish). | | | |
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I was always going to vote for leave so the economic/immigration arguments over the last few weeks haven't swayed me. I partly voted with heart over head, there may be a period of economic uncertainty but at least we will be free and democratic(ish).'" Genuine question: in what way were you not free before? | | |
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To all those sore losers among the younger generations, I say this: we were taken into what is the EU by the Tory party on a campaign of lies, we were given a referendum in 1975 (under Labour) and that campaign was based on a project fear almost identical this times'. Politicians, especially the Tory party, then spent the next 40 years blaming all their incompetence on 'Europe' whilst still signing us up to Maastrict, etc. Is it any wonder that people you have seen and heard all this wanted out?
Also, it is clear that a lot of younger working class people voted out.
But if you want to blame somebody or something, blame a Tory party lead by two inexperienced, arrogant, overgrown school boys. Blame the most incompetent PM in post- war British history. He did not learn his lesson from the Scottish referendum. He offered a referendum on the EU in the Election manifesto to appease part of his party and see off UKIP voters in the expectation of losing that election. When he got a surprise win, did he not think it may have been in large part due to the referendum pledge? Clearly not, as he thought it would be a walk over and that with the Tory parry's usual divisive, divide and rule policies, the creation of a feeling of general insecurity among the population and a project fear it would be a walk over. But an out of touch PM misjudged things big time.
So if you are cut up about this and young, make yourself a solemn promise -NEVER vote Tory in the rest of your life. If you do, you will see economic incompetence, increased public borrowings and decreased public services, sleaze, arrogance and embarrassment. That has been the pattern during my life to date and I do not expect it to change anytime soon.
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Dally I agree with your post but wish to add that the electorate would probably agree with you if there was a viable party to place their x against. By comparison the other parties are weak and until they all get themselves party leaders with coherent message then the status quo will prevail....
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Leyther Paul Mason get it --
Quote But – and this is the final mindset shift we in Labour must make – free movement is over. Free movement was a core principle of the EU, developed over time. We are no longer part of that, and to reconnect with our voting base – I don’t mean the racists but the thousands of ordinary Labour voters, including black and Asian people – we have to design a migration policy that works for them, and not for rip-off construction bosses or slavedrivers on the farms of East Anglia.'"
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Leyther Paul Mason get it --
Quote But – and this is the final mindset shift we in Labour must make – free movement is over. Free movement was a core principle of the EU, developed over time. We are no longer part of that, and to reconnect with our voting base – I don’t mean the racists but the thousands of ordinary Labour voters, including black and Asian people – we have to design a migration policy that works for them, and not for rip-off construction bosses or slavedrivers on the farms of East Anglia.'"
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Genuine question: in what way were you not free before?'"
Many of our laws are created by a group of unelected Eurocrats that we can't get rid of. The EU was only going to get more powerful, more integrated, ever growing. I believe that in the future it would become a superstate with the current countries being basically council areas. We would have no democratic powers to change it or have any real influence. It isn't a force for good. | | |
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"Many of our laws are created by a group of unelected Eurocrats that we can't get rid of. '" Can you cite a few of these many laws created by 'unelected Eurocrats'? | | | |
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Can you cite a few of these many laws created by 'unelected Eurocrats'?'"
Do I need to? You know as well as I do that they exist. Alright, many of them might seem insignificant in the grand scheme of things.
We were heading towards a situation where the EU would become a fully functioning federal nation state. It already has a flag, an anthem, a parliament and a court that is superior to our own legal system. | | |
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That shows, sort of, how to determine the amount of UK laws influenced by the EU. What about the second half of wigan_rlfc's oh-so certain statement: how many on the EU side didn't go through the elected European Parliament or get approval from our own elected UK government? |
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And now Labour start a civil war amongst themselves, lovely.
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It's a strange if not interesting time in politics the Lib Dems committed political suicide and the two main parties have completely imploded.
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A Ten Point Plan For Labour To Regain The Workers Vote
1) Stop supporting the free movement of Labour! At one time Labour fought to save jobs in local communities whilst the capitalists told workers to ‘get on their bikes and find work’. Studies have proven that immigration has small impact on average wages but more significant impacts along the wage distribution, low-waged workers lose while medium and high-paid workers gain.
2) Guarantee that all legitimate asylum seekers and refugees will be welcome to find safety in our country.
3) Put Blair and Cameron on trial for their war crimes.
4) Nationalise the Banking system.
5) Use newly created public money to start building the infrastructure needed, new houses, new schools etc.
6) Pledge the British forces will never set foot on foreign soil unless working under a U.N mandate.
7) Pledge to help workers and unions in other countries in their struggle against global capitalism
8 Repeal all anti union laws enacted since the days of Thatcher.
9) Pledge to introduce proportional representation into U.K politics.
10) Pledge to ban fracking in the U.K and to promote a ‘Green’ energy bill.
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I'd agree with most of that. I'm not against free movement of labour, however it's clear the majority of the electorate are, and both major parties have dismissed this group of voters as bigots. To be fair some of them are, but that doesn't mean the politicians who are meant to represent their constituents should ignore them. It alienates them, and as a result are gravitated to the likes of UKIP.
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| Quote ="LeighGionaire"A Ten Point Plan For Labour To Regain The Workers Vote
1) Stop supporting the free movement of Labour! At one time Labour fought to save jobs in local communities whilst the capitalists told workers to ‘get on their bikes and find work’. Studies have proven that immigration has small impact on average wages but more significant impacts along the wage distribution, low-waged workers lose while medium and high-paid workers gain.
2) Guarantee that all legitimate asylum seekers and refugees will be welcome to find safety in our country.
3) Put Blair and Cameron on trial for their war crimes.
4) Nationalise the Banking system.
5) Use newly created public money to start building the infrastructure needed, new houses, new schools etc.
6) Pledge the British forces will never set foot on foreign soil unless working under a U.N mandate.
7) Pledge to help workers and unions in other countries in their struggle against global capitalism
8 Repeal all anti union laws enacted since the days of Thatcher.
9) Pledge to introduce proportional representation into U.K politics.
10) Pledge to ban fracking in the U.K and to promote a ‘Green’ energy bill.'"
I agree with that list. However, the decision to leave the EU is only even vaguely relevant to number (1). Yet unless we accept (1), we will have tariffs on all our trade, which will essentially bankrupt us and thus prevent us from spending money on anything from the rest of the list.
The real answer to free movement of people is not to erect a fence to keep them out, but to impose and enforce a national minimum wage which allows British workers to live with dignity and comfort, and prevents unscrupulous companies from undercutting those workers using cheap imported Labour. After all, if everyone who wants a decent job has one, then nobody really gives a stuff if some guys from Warsaw are working alongside them.
That's at the heart of this - firms who deliberately import and recruit workers on pay and conditions which would be below a level of decency for British workers trying to live a normal family life. And that's not going to be affected in any way by the EU exit. Indeed, the EU should be part of the solution, because by imposing common standards for workers (holidays, maternity leave, minimum pay) across the continent, it makes it much harder for firms to play the "You'll accept low wages, or I'm off to Slovakia" card.
The EU was part of the solution, not part of the problem. The marginalised working class should have been campaigning for the UK government to take a lead in strengthening EU employment legislation in order to prevent such exploitation by greedy firms.
Instead, we've voted for a group of charlatans who have already confirmed that free movement of Labour will continue outside the EU, and they will take this opportunity to remove the employment protections which the EU did actually impose (they call it "red-tape", and a few more people should have asked what it was before they merrily voted to cut it).
This was a decision of monumental self-defeating stupidity. I'm sorry if that gets people's backs up, but it was. In every way, this vote will make conditions for British workers worse. Our employment protections will be cut by the extreme right-wingers who are about to take over, free movement of Labour will remain, as it does with any country which wants to trade with the EU without tariffs, and there'll be fewer jobs and higher prices as firms pull out of the UK to relocate inside the EU, and imports become more expensive due to the devalued pound.
So yes, I support your list. But we just voted against every single item on it. This is the biggest facepalm in British political history. | | |
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Labour will never learn. The Blairites who have more or less destroyed the party are now destroying the remnants.
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| Quote ="Roy Haggerty"I agree with that list. However, the decision to leave the EU is only even vaguely relevant to number (1). Yet unless we accept (1), we will have tariffs on all our trade, which will essentially bankrupt us and thus prevent us from spending money on anything from the rest of the list.
The real answer to free movement of people is not to erect a fence to keep them out, but to impose and enforce a national minimum wage which allows British workers to live with dignity and comfort, and prevents unscrupulous companies from undercutting those workers using cheap imported Labour. After all, if everyone who wants a decent job has one, then nobody really gives a stuff if some guys from Warsaw are working alongside them.
That's at the heart of this - firms who deliberately import and recruit workers on pay and conditions which would be below a level of decency for British workers trying to live a normal family life. And that's not going to be affected in any way by the EU exit. Indeed, the EU should be part of the solution, because by imposing common standards for workers (holidays, maternity leave, minimum pay) across the continent, it makes it much harder for firms to play the "You'll accept low wages, or I'm off to Slovakia" card.
The EU was part of the solution, not part of the problem. The marginalised working class should have been campaigning for the UK government to take a lead in strengthening EU employment legislation in order to prevent such exploitation by greedy firms.
Instead, we've voted for a group of charlatans who have already confirmed that free movement of Labour will continue outside the EU, and they will take this opportunity to remove the employment protections which the EU did actually impose (they call it "red-tape", and a few more people should have asked what it was before they merrily voted to cut it).
This was a decision of monumental self-defeating stupidity. I'm sorry if that gets people's backs up, but it was. In every way, this vote will make conditions for British workers worse. Our employment protections will be cut by the extreme right-wingers who are about to take over, free movement of Labour will remain, as it does with any country which wants to trade with the EU without tariffs, and there'll be fewer jobs and higher prices as firms pull out of the UK to relocate inside the EU, and imports become more expensive due to the devalued pound.
So yes, I support your list. But we just voted against every single item on it. This is the biggest facepalm in British political history.'"
Absolutely spot on - the country has just been consigned to the economic doldrums off the back of a referendum that even its poster child didn't expect or want to win; Boris Johnson, make no mistake, would have campaigned just as vociferously for Remain, if it meant ousting his old Bullingdon rival and getting a crack at the PM job. His jolly jape has now gone disastrously wrong, and all the low paid, working class people who voted Out will face a future under the yoke of a right wing Tory rule that will erode their rights and freedoms far more egregiously than any made-up European legislation - most of which did more good than harm in terms of protecting workers rights and social justice. | | |
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Thankfully the shadow politicians who were as much Labour as That woman have taken their bat and ball home and gone off to sulk. If they haven't the stones to fight their beliefs from within what chance outside? Well to me I wouldn't trust them at all nor should the current or future leader.
We live in interesting times and a great opportunity for change, the faux politicians will soon be found out, as some already have, and perhaps the future may be beneficial once these people from all parties have been found out.
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A great opportunity for change.
Change without an opposition, or any parties that are willing to talk amongst themselves never mind each other.
If you voted against the establishment and the old politicians then be aware that you gave those exact same people two years to undertake the largest transformation in the country's history and pretty much gave them a two year deadline with which to do it. If you consider this a process by which "the worker" will win you are going to be disappointed.
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| Quote ="vbfg"A great opportunity for change.
Change without an opposition, or any parties that are willing to talk amongst themselves never mind each other.
If you voted against the establishment and the old politicians then be aware that you gave those exact same people two years to undertake the largest transformation in the country's history and pretty much gave them a two year deadline with which to do it. If you consider this a process by which "the worker" will win you are going to be disappointed.'"
Like a lot of Remain voters, I feel trapped in a bit of a nightmare not of my own making. All the economic experts said that if we vote Brexit, the consequences for the nation's economy would be catastrophic. Gove said "Pah, who needs experts?", and every Tom, Dick and Harry who hasn't looked at a graph since school decided that all the economists and institutions were wrong, and we voted Brexit.
Now, we have economic carnage. The markets are first to move, because they're the most reactive, and it's been unbelievable on there. It's now worse in the UK than when the entire world's economic system came close to collapse after Lehman Brothers. The pound has effectively devalued to the levels of thirty years ago, ratings agencies have downgraded the UK's credit ratings, and there are companies left, right and centre issuing notices about reducing/delaying investment, relocation, and profit warnings.
Yet mention this to some Brexiters, and they start talking about "Project Fear", as if you're conjecturing. But this isn't a prediction any more, it's fact. It's actually happening. This isn't academic either. Already I know people whose companies have had orders cancelled, housing chains which have collapsed as buyers have pulled out. Pension funds are losing value hand over fist, and today some bank shares had to be suspended. It's not Project Fear. It's reality. It's a self-inflicted reality. And it's not just going to go away. This is only Day 2 in trading terms. We haven't even given notice of Article 50 being invoked yet, so you'd have to conjecture that half the market is still holding on in the vague hope that our Government (whoever that turns out to be) won't actually go ahead and pull the lever to open the trapdoor we've chosen to stand on. When we pull that lever, the consequences are going to be truly horrible.
Yet what do we get from those dishonest clowns who ran the Leave campaign? "Oh, we always said there'd be a few bumps in the road." Jesus. If this sounds panic-stricken, then yes, it probably is. There are people reading their pro-Brexit tabloids who still think this stuff is made up. They're like Monty Python's Black Knight claiming having both arms cut off was just a flesh wound!
It's not, people. It's happening. We'd better pray that someone emerges from the political pygmies currently in charge, and finds a way to apply the brakes to this train, or we are going off the cliff, and it's a long drop. | | |
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The Blairites would rather see the party destroyed than move back to the left of anything, it's farcical. Not to mention how it spits in the face of the wave of supporters who joined to back Corbyn as a real opposition leader instead of the Tory-lite brand of doing things that fooked the general election.
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Hand on heart, if the Labour leadership was based on all Labour voters, rather than activists (i.e. millions rather than hundreds of thousands), do you think Corbyn would have got anywhere near the leadership? Because its those voters, plus swing voters who can make Labour electable.
The left as a stand alone offering hasn't won an election for 40 years, and the patterns of voting suggest that is not going to change, especially as Labour has managed to lose Scotland at least for the time being. Getting agitated and yelling that its just because people don't understand or have forgotten socialist ideals is what fringe activists have always done and it just doesn't work.
If like Corbyn you think that small bands of protestors are more important than actually getting elected, then sobeit. But right now Labour is looking more like a fringe protest movement than a credible opposition.
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| So, Angela Eagle has officially challenged Corbyn's leadership.  She makes Ed Milliband look like Dennis Skinner. This has been one of the worst coup attempts ever. If you plan to remove a leader then you have to have someone else with the party backing who can step straight in. Labour, and their brand of quasi toryism simply isn't what is going to get them elected anymore,and with the Chilcot report due to be published that will no doubt paint some of the Blairites plotting against Corbyn in a negative light, I don't see how they can get what they want without Corbyn resigning. Add in the fact that Corbyn still has the support of party members, as well as the majority of Labour voters (Angela Eagle's constituents even wrote to her telling to vote against the motion of no confidence in Corbyn, which she ignored), and trade unions. Add in the fact that prior to the Eu vote he was edging ahead in some of the polls, increased Labour's share of the vote, as well helped labour take control of 4 major cities, including London. It's the most self-destructive coup in modern times. The labour MPs are criticizing Corbyn for supposedly failing to unite the party, but the fact is all they would have to do unite the party would to accept the mandate the party has been given, and back their democratically elected leader.
The fact is these are unprecedented political times, and populism on both sides of the political spectrum is what's galvanizing voters. Neoliberal centreism that tries to be everything to everyone, but in turn offers nothing to nobody is all but dead, and "radical" policy ideas are needed to help defeat the weakening political establishment. | | | |
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She makes Ed Milliband look like Dennis Skinner. This has been one of the worst coup attempts ever. If you plan to remove a leader then you have to have someone else with the party backing who can step straight in. Labour, and their brand of quasi toryism simply isn't what is going to get them elected anymore,and with the Chilcot report due to be published that will no doubt paint some of the Blairites plotting against Corbyn in a negative light, I don't see how they can get what they want without Corbyn resigning. Add in the fact that Corbyn still has the support of party members, as well as the majority of Labour voters (Angela Eagle's constituents even wrote to her telling to vote against the motion of no confidence in Corbyn, which she ignored), and trade unions. Add in the fact that prior to the Eu vote he was edging ahead in some of the polls, increased Labour's share of the vote, as well helped labour take control of 4 major cities, including London. It's the most self-destructive coup in modern times. The labour MPs are criticizing Corbyn for supposedly failing to unite the party, but the fact is all they would have to do unite the party would to accept the mandate the party has been given, and back their democratically elected leader. 
