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| Because it worked so well the last time round, didn't it?
Why don't the lying Tory b@stards just admit the economy is flatlining and they need to come up with some sort of ideas to get things moving.
Where the fook are these 750,000 private sector jobs they were telling us would be created only a few months ago?
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| Surely the single biggest stumbling block for people looking for work right now, especially young people, is the sheer number of people applying?
The more people you are competing against then surely logic dictates that there is a higher chance of competing against someone with better qualifications, more experienced or who simply does better at interview? For younger people, especially those just out of college or school, then they are going to be competing against more people with experience.
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| Quote ="Standee"I dont have kids.'" Thanks for confirming that you haven't got a clue.
It will save so much time.
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| In incase anyone is interested I have just recived an E-Mail from Asda saying that I have got a christmas job (29th Nov to 2nd Jan).
That will put paid to my mortgage insurance claim (3 months left) as it is fixed term work which isn't covered.
I have been told by folks I know that work there the chances of being kept on are low but it is a chance I am willing to take as the thought of another year signing on doesn't bear thinking about.
Still Standee says I dont want to work so....
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"In incase anyone is interested I have just recived an E-Mail from Asda saying that I have got a christmas job (29th Nov to 2nd Jan).
That will put paid to my mortgage insurance claim (3 months left) as it is fixed term work which isn't covered.
I have been told by folks I know that work there the chances of being kept on are low but it is a chance I am willing to take as the thought of another year signing on doesn't bear thinking about.
Still Standee says I dont want to work so....'"
Hope it goes well. Hope the mortgage insurance thing doesn't become a problem.
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| Quote ="DHM"Ignore him. I moved around all over the country to work for various reasons. Then I had kids and I wouldn't move now if you put a bomb under my backside. If I lost my job and couldn't get another without relocating I'd take the state for every penny I could if it meant my kids could finish school here where they've grown up, with their friends and where they feel safe.
Next the same whingers who complain about people not travelling to the ends of Britain uprooting their families (who they shouldn't even have without the correct amount of funding in place for the next 20 years) will be b!tch!ng about "broken Britain" and the demise of the "community". You can't have a f*****g community if everyone has to move every 6 months from one rented craphole to another all around the country to stack supermarket shelves and work as temps in warehouses or farm fields.'"
I moved from end of the country to pretty much the other end of the country back in 1988, to look for work. But I didn't have a house to try to sell – I'd lost it in the second recession of the decade after being made redundant for the umpteenth time – and I didn't have any dependents.
The same people that you mention would doubtless proclaim the importance of 'family life' – except, apparently, when it might actually mean something.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"In incase anyone is interested I have just recived an E-Mail from Asda saying that I have got a christmas job (29th Nov to 2nd Jan).
That will put paid to my mortgage insurance claim (3 months left) as it is fixed term work which isn't covered.
I have been told by folks I know that work there the chances of being kept on are low but it is a chance I am willing to take as the thought of another year signing on doesn't bear thinking about.
Still Standee says I dont want to work so....'"
To be fair to the supermarkets though their's is the only turnover that is increasing year on year and they are among the few businesses that are still opening new outlets, Asda are moving into the "Metro" style stores after buying Netto and there could be opportunities there which are often only advertised internally.
You need to spend your time "networking" or brown-nosing the management there as often they will know of openings coming up.
Best of luck.
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| Quote ="Mintball"With respect, if he's worked for 19 of the last 20 years, then he's clearly got some experience in something.'"
With respect, I'm asking what that experience is. I'm not looking for a fight or to make a point, I'm assuming if he's worked 19 years and his Mrs is in HR, between them they know what they're doing.
Genuinely interested what field he's in.
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| Quote ="Cronus"With respect, I'm asking what that experience is. I'm not looking for a fight or to make a point, I'm assuming if he's worked 19 years and his Mrs is in HR, between them they know what they're doing.
Genuinely interested what field he's in.'" I have done allsorts.
Delivery driver, Fitters mate, Labouror, CNC operator, Line setter at a cake factory and Storeman.
I can turn my hand to pretty much anything as my CV shows.
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| Quote ="Dally"Hope it goes well. Hope the mortgage insurance thing doesn't become a problem.'" It could end up being a huge problem but what choice do I have?
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| Some of the comments on this thread make me sad. It's oh so easy for those fortunate enough not to have lost their jobs during the recession to sit there and pontificate to those who are struggling through no fault of their own.
I hope not only that everything works out for Anakin, but that those who have been so callous towards him in this thread one day get to experience a similar predicament to his first hand.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"To be fair to the supermarkets though their's is the only turnover that is increasing year on year and they are among the few businesses that are still opening new outlets ...'"
It does help when they get away with bullying suppliers and producers into funding in-store price cuts for them – and when they get free labour paid for by you and me.
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| Quote ="Mintball"It does help when they get away with bullying suppliers and producers into funding in-store price cuts for them – and when they get free labour paid for by you and me.'"
When you're unemployed and the rest of the world is speaking of several more years of depression then your moral objections have to take a back seat when work is offered. I've traded with all of the largest five supermarkets for 20 years and believe me, its much easier selling to them than to imagine that they didn't have to exist and have to sell to fifty times as many independent corner shops.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"When you're unemployed and the rest of the world is speaking of several more years of depression then your moral objections have to take a back seat when work is offered. I've traded with all of the largest five supermarkets for 20 years and believe me, its much easier selling to them than to imagine that they didn't have to exist and have to sell to fifty times as many independent corner shops.'"
Well yes - they have 80% of the UK grocery retail trade, so it's not easy to avoid trading with them and it's therefore not easy to say 'no' when, for instance, the supermarket says you'll carry the cost of an in-store price cut.
But I wasn't suggesting someone shouldn't take a job in a supermarket - I was merely responding to your comment about how well they're doing.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"[uSome of the comments on this thread make me sad.[/u It's oh so easy for those fortunate enough not to have lost their jobs during the recession to sit there and pontificate to those who are struggling through no fault of their own.
I hope not only that everything works out for Anakin, but that those who have been so callous towards him in this thread one day get to experience a similar predicament to his first hand.'"
What do you really expect from right-wing t0sspots who don't give a fook about anybody but themselves?
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"When you're unemployed and the rest of the world is speaking of several more years of depression then your moral objections have to take a back seat when work is offered. I've traded with all of the largest five supermarkets for 20 years and believe me, its much easier selling to them than to imagine that they didn't have to exist and have to sell to fifty times as many independent corner shops.'"
Try selling them some spuds next time
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| Quote ="WIZEB"What do you really expect from right-wing t0sspots who don't give a fook about anybody but themselves?'"
I would say that it's perhaps not entirely that simple: that part of the tragedy, in my opinion, is that a lot of people (and not just here) is they have been convinced that this is the only way - that there is no alternative. We have been trained, over 30 years, to think like this. That job security is not desirable - that it's lazy, even, and un-aspirational. That family is of less importance than, in effect, being a 'flexible' worker - regardless of what that means.
I've asked before when it became the case of the people serving the economy and not the other way around.
I think what you see here is, in part at least, the triumph of that ideology.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"
You need to spend your time "networking" or brown-nosing the management there as often they will know of openings coming up.
Best of luck.'"
I was going to say a similar thing earlier. Basically, work harder and quicker than others and always be pleasant. Try to befriend your immediate 'manager' and not treat him as a 'them' to your 'us'. I hope iy goes well and you get something long term out of it.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Some of the comments on this thread make me sad. It's oh so easy for those fortunate enough not to have lost their jobs during the recession to sit there and pontificate to those who are struggling through no fault of their own.
I hope not only that everything works out for Anakin, but that those who have been so callous towards him in this thread one day get to experience a similar predicament to his first hand.'"
To be fair, there's only been one who went OTT. Fortunately he waved the white flag and buggered off somewhere near the bottom of page 6
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| Quote ="cod'ead"To be fair, there's only been one who went OTT. Fortunately he waved the white flag and buggered off somewhere near the bottom of page 6'"
It was mainly that one I was referring to!
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| Were all suffering from [ithe politics of envy[/i mind.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"To be fair, there's only been one who went OTT. Fortunately he waved the white flag and buggered off somewhere near the bottom of page 6'" Well he has achived one thing!. Me and you are agreeing on something.
We both have much the same view on him.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"I have done allsorts.
Delivery driver, Fitters mate, Labouror, CNC operator, Line setter at a cake factory and Storeman.
I can turn my hand to pretty much anything as my CV shows.'"
I wonder if that's a case of too much variety? I find the same in my industry at times - I've worked in more roles than anyone I know but that sometimes goes against me. The longest role I've had is my current position of 5 1/2 years - that's mainly due to working overseas and switching roles within the same company a few times. I know the fields I'm good in but if someone's being doing it none-stop for 10 years I'm at a disadvantage.
Conversely, I also imagine the first few roles you mention such as labourer are inundated with applicants at the moment - including entry-level labour from schools and colleges (and yes, possibly from Europe). I know every single lad in our team working in similar roles has lost work and suffered problems throughout the last few years, often more than once. As a result most have had to take work that involves weekends (team selection is a nightmare!).
Anyway, congrats on finding a temp job and good luck. As I always tell my friends and myself when looking - it might take a hundred applications, but you only need to get the right job once.
Could it be that you're putting 'Anakin Skywalker' on your CV? Put me off, that would.
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| I think it's a good move, I work with a lot of young unemployed people and for many of them the thought of getting a job doesn't even cross their mind because their parents and relatives don't work. If it manages to instill a work ethic into even a few of them then it's worthwhile.
To those who say we are subsidising the supermarkets -I agree. However I'd be much happier knowing that my contributions to the economy are at least going on even a dubious social mobility scheme than just being handed out without any meaningful checks that they are even looking for work. Maybe if the Labour government hadn't been quite so free and easy with taxpayers money in the first place, we wouldn't be in quite the pickle we find ourselves in at present.
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