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| Quote ="100% Wire"Aye, I did think about that, still seems a little bit unfair though'"
"We're all in this together."
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Initially the price will rise but it will settle back within a month to somewhere close to the offer level - ....'"
Glad to see you recognise how short-termism affects the price.
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| Quote ="Mintball""We're all in this together."'"
Must be, Cameron DID start this years Conference speech by saying that the last year has been 'really tough'. I assume he meant for him too and not just us poor lot
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| Quote ="Mintball""We're all in this together."'"
Must be, Cameron DID start this years Conference speech by saying that the last year has been 'really tough'. I assume he meant for him too and not just us poor lot
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| have to love it when those that can't bemoan that cant moan about those that can
POE, as is always the Sin Bin way
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| Quote ="Standee"have to love it when those that can't bemoan that cant moan about those that can
POE, as is always the Sin Bin way'"
Just run that past me again?
Eh?
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| Quote ="Standee"have to love it when those that can't bemoan that cant moan about those that can
POE, as is always the Sin Bin way'"
Your random word generator needs rebooting.
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| Quote ="Standee"have to love it when those that can't bemoan that cant moan about those that can
POE, as is always the Sin Bin way'"
You been at the cooking sherry again?
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| Quote ="Standee"have to love it when those that can't bemoan that cant moan about those that can
POE, as is always the Sin Bin way'"
Why not actually try to contribute/engage?
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| Quote ="Mintball"Why not actually try to contribute/engage?'"
Because he knows he'll get his a[ir[/ise handed to him on a plate, as is usual
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| Quote ="cod'ead":3w59aiv6Bugger me, have you got any idea how these things work?
The vast majority of the initial offer will have been resold within 24 hours. The institutional investors will probably play a longer game but the spivs of hedge funds will have gotten out and clear away without handing over a red cent.
Is this our brave new world?'"
When you have read these you might actually understand how hedge funds actually work
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Because he knows he'll get his a[ir[/ise handed to him on a plate, as is usual'"
Not by you though that is for sure!!
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"Glad to see you recognise how short-termism affects the price.'"
As we have said earlier the share price is seldom linear and serious companies will not bat an eye if the share price drops one day and gains another.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"As we have said earlier the share price is seldom linear and serious companies will not bat an eye if the share price drops one day and gains another.'"
We have indeed.
But it wasn't the point.
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| MP's were already on upwards of 60k per year, i'll hazard a guess that your average NHS employee is not on anywhere near that amount. The numbers probably still don't add up, but i still say that the principle of 1% for us 10% for them stinks
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| Stocks and shares are the ultimate ponzi scheme. Limited liability for screwing up.
However should you want use a high street bookmaker you are seen as feckless.
I guarantee that the institutional investors will bet on a short term gain with this scam sale and it will not cost them a penny but they will make money on the deal. The Ponzi scheme and laws are set up that way no matter what the right wingers say.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"We have indeed.
But it wasn't the point.'"
Yes it was - you were initially suggesting that the share price was the primary consideration of all serious CEO and that they would make all their decisions around the movements in the share price no matter how short term.
I am suggesting that is not the case - I think serious companies make decisions that they genuinely think will benefit the business longer term - increases in the share price should be a positive externality of those decisions. I don't think they make decisions to give the share price a short term boost to satisfy a few traders - you quite clearly do.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"Yes it was - you were initially suggesting that the share price was the primary consideration of all serious CEO and that they would make all their decisions around the movements in the share price no matter how short term.
I am suggesting that is not the case - I think serious companies make decisions that they genuinely think will benefit the business longer term - increases in the share price should be a positive externality of those decisions. I don't think they make decisions to give the share price a short term boost to satisfy a few traders - you quite clearly do.'"
That is not what I said BUT I have just checked back and the bit in blue, I reckon, will be the bit you mean ...
Quote ="El Barbudo"...So, putting it in very basic terms, =#0000FFcompanies are run in a way to try to please short-term stock market gamblers who add very little to society but take a cream off the top of what the economy produces.
And then, very often, put their profits through an offshore company and pay next to no tax.'"
Allow me to correct that...
As directors often receive bonuses in shares, they are thereby motivated to increase the share price as that, ultimately, improves their remuneration.
Such efforts which successfully result in a share price change also go to feed short-term stock market gamblers who add very little to society but take a cream off the top of what the economy produces.
And then, very often, put their profits through an offshore company and pay next to no tax.
How's that?
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