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| [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17475709More people will pay more tax[/url.
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| Quote ="Mintball"[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17475709More people will pay more tax[/url.'" Isn't it strange that IIRC he failed to mention that and that he failed to mention the true facts about pensioners being worse off when he was giving his budget speech.
Anyone would think he didn't want to highlight it eh!!
He has gone on record saying that he doesn't earn or have enough to pay 45% tax.
I'm hardly suprised I mean that is what offshore accounts are for surely.
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| Quote ="Mintball"[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17475709More people will pay more tax[/url.'"
Lovely statement of the bleeding obvious from the IFS about people managing their tax affairs in such a way as to benefit from the 45p rate, in the same way they did to mitigate the introduction of the 50p rate.
Course, lots of income that would otherwise have fallen in 2012-13 will be deferred - where possible - until 2013-14. The take from the top rate of tax will go up, despite the rate being lower, and George will tell us all what a spiffing success it has been.
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| Quote ="Andy Gilder"
Course, lots of income that would otherwise have fallen in 2012-13 will be deferred - where possible - until 2013-14. The take from the top rate of tax will go up, despite the rate being lower, and George will tell us all what a spiffing success it has been.'"
It ought not to be too hard to explain to Joe public that the reason why the 50p didn't raise as much as first thought was because income was taken early and equally that the 45p rate won't either because people will defer income until it drops back to 40p.
Either way the figures it actually did raise was £700m to £1bn depending on who you read.
Considering the effort and expense that goes into trying to stop a mere £60m of benefit fraud the 50p tax rate looks a highly efficient way to generate revenue for the government!
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1000 new jobs to be created by GSK in Cubria following confirmation in the Budget that the Government will introduce a "patent box" to encourage investment in research and development in the UK.
www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 81006.html
Brilliant news, more of the same please.
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1000 new jobs to be created by GSK in Cubria following confirmation in the Budget that the Government will introduce a "patent box" to encourage investment in research and development in the UK.
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Quote ="Ajw71"1000 new jobs to be created by GSK in Cubria following confirmation in the Budget that the Government will introduce a "patent box" to encourage investment in research and development in the UK.
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Brilliant news, more of the same please.'"
[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/mar/07/remploy-factory-closures-disabled-workersThey can start by interviewing this lot[/url
Or any of the thousands of others that have been thrown out of work since they came to power
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Brilliant news, more of the same please.'"
[url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/mar/07/remploy-factory-closures-disabled-workersThey can start by interviewing this lot[/url
Or any of the thousands of others that have been thrown out of work since they came to power
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Not a clue, but economies have before. People were jumping off buildings in the USA in 1929, but that country recovered.
Why do you ask that question? Do you think it won't?
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| [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17476976Rozzers to ballot on right to strike[/url
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Or any of the thousands of others that have been thrown out of work since they came to power'" government says each Remploy job involves a £20,000-a-year subsidy from the taxpayer, which they believe is unsustainable"
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Maybe GSK are simply rebalancing the redundancies they already made in their rush to offshore operations?
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I sense you are a bit of a glass half empty kind of guy. Jobs are good, whatever side of whatever fence you sit on.
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Quote ="Ajw71"1000 new jobs to be created by GSK in Cubria following confirmation in the Budget that the Government will introduce a "patent box" to encourage investment in research and development in the UK.
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Brilliant news, more of the same please.'"
Yeah ok, a huge company like GSK just decided, after weighing up all the factors and investigating all the costs etc, to make a major investment in the UK, less than 18 hours after the budget was announced.
Absolute rubbish. This was a decision that had already been made but obviously GSK had been persuaded to delay the announcement until after the budget. Since GSK hasn't said its because of this budget but because of the patent box that was mentioned in budgets since 2009.
No company makes a decision of that size and importance in 18 hours.
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www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 81006.html
Brilliant news, more of the same please.'"
Yeah ok, a huge company like GSK just decided, after weighing up all the factors and investigating all the costs etc, to make a major investment in the UK, less than 18 hours after the budget was announced.
Absolute rubbish. This was a decision that had already been made but obviously GSK had been persuaded to delay the announcement until after the budget. Since GSK hasn't said its because of this budget but because of the patent box that was mentioned in budgets since 2009.
No company makes a decision of that size and importance in 18 hours.
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Absolute rubbish. This was a decision that had already been made but obviously GSK had been persuaded to delay the announcement until after the budget. Since GSK hasn't said its because of this budget but because of the patent box that was mentioned in budgets since 2009.
No company makes a decision of that size and importance in 18 hours.'"
Good news though nonetheless ?
Isn't it ?
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| The CEO of GSK was interviewed on the Today programme on Radio 4 this morning and he was asked about the redundancies. He said that it's all a normal part of business and is mainly in the administrative side of the company, but, overall, with the 1000 new jobs, GSK [ishould[/i see a net increase in staff.
Hardly a ringing endorsement is it? And it certainly isn't the 1000 net new jobs the idiot Osborne seemed to be shovelling this morning.
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Indeed. However, if you bin off nearly as many jobs as you create then the net effect is rather less impressive.
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Isn't it ?'"
Of course it is, it's great news. But let's not pretend it had anything to do with the 2012 Budget.
A little bit of research tells me that the current Chairman of GSK is Sir Christopher Gent, who aside from running the bastion of morality that is Vodafone and serving on the compensation committee of the board at Lehman Brothers that authorised the payout for its failed CEO, Dick Fuld, who received $34 m in 2007 and $40.5 m in 2006, was Chairman of the Young Conservatives in the 70's, served on the Tax Reform Commission established by the then Shadow Chancellor. Three guesses who that was?
Oh and he's donated over £140,000 to the Conservative Party over the last few years.
But then it could all just be a co-incidence...
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| Quote ="Kosh"Indeed. However, if you bin off nearly as many jobs as you create then the net effect is rather less impressive.'"
And if you work to ensure that wages in general are decreasing (apart from for those at the very top) then you illustrate utter economic illiteracy and also an abject inhumanity.
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The difference is under Labour they would not have had their ESA benefit stopped like the Tories have done. They would have still been able to claim. Under the Tories they would have one year on ESA and within that year they would have to either "get better" or find a job. At least Labour aren't as heartless as to leave them without any income whatsoever.
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The difference is under Labour they would not have had their ESA benefit stopped like the Tories have done. They would have still been able to claim. Under the Tories they would have one year on ESA and within that year they would have to either "get better" or find a job. At least Labour aren't as heartless as to leave them without any income whatsoever.
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A little bit of research tells me that the current Chairman of GSK is Sir Christopher Gent, who aside from running the bastion of morality that is Vodafone and serving on the compensation committee of the board at Lehman Brothers that authorised the payout for its failed CEO, Dick Fuld, who received $34 m in 2007 and $40.5 m in 2006, was Chairman of the Young Conservatives in the 70's, served on the Tax Reform Commission established by the then Shadow Chancellor. Three guesses who that was?
Oh and he's donated over £140,000 to the Conservative Party over the last few years.
But then it could all just be a co-incidence...'"
No I don't think it's coincidence either it was stage managed for the day after the budget. Everyone knows that.
The people who will be employed, or re employed, as a result of it wont be too fussed about about the timing of it or indeed the possibly dodgy history of the Chairman. They'll just be pleased to be in employment I should imagine.
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Brilliant news, more of the same please.'"
I'd do a bit of a google if I weren't so busy this morning but anyone with half a minute to spare might want to find out how many jobs were lost at the GSK site in Barnard Castle a couple of years ago when the company first threatened to pull out of the site completely and then mothballed a huge swathe of it - I suspect that the number of jobs they are creating in that town is substantially less than the number they laid off just a couple of years ago.
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www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 81006.html
Brilliant news, more of the same please.'"
I'd do a bit of a google if I weren't so busy this morning but anyone with half a minute to spare might want to find out how many jobs were lost at the GSK site in Barnard Castle a couple of years ago when the company first threatened to pull out of the site completely and then mothballed a huge swathe of it - I suspect that the number of jobs they are creating in that town is substantially less than the number they laid off just a couple of years ago.
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Just recieved this email.
[iDPAC
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London Meeting Unites Resistance to Remploy Closures
Posted: 22 Mar 2012 06:34 AM PDT
A meeting called by DPAC on 20th March brought together Remploy workers with campaigns offering support to resist the planned closures of 36 out of 54 Remploy factories by August this year. DPAC members were joined by representatives from the Right to Work campaign, UKUncut, and Winvisible, as well as from a number of unions and local anti-cuts groups.
Remploy convenor Les Woodward who attended the meeting in London on his birthday said it had filled him with an immense amount of confidence. He said that unlike in 2007 when workers opposed the closure of Remploy factories by New Labour, this time they are not alone. Following those closures less than 6% of workers went on to find alternative employment and of those only 5% found employment at an equal or better level. [size=150Former Brixton Remploy worker Ray Ludford described how Remploy factories had been purposefully run into the ground since Michael Portillo took away their preferred supplier status.[/size
Ellen Clifford spoke on behalf of DPAC and gave her thanks to Les for opening DPAC’s eyes to the reality of the struggle. She described it as highly irresponsible to be taking employment away from disabled people when there are no jobs for anyone and when an ever tightening benefits system is leaving disabled people destitute. She said that the government’s education policies show they have no interest in building inclusive societies and if they really cared about disabled people’s access to mainstream employment they would be removing rather than promoting segregated education and investing in Access to Work.
The meeting questioned government figures which suggest the factories are unsustainable and the likelihood of any money saved from the closures being invested in Access to Work. There was also anger at the profit charities are set to make by delivering workfare programmes supporting disabled people into non-existent jobs. Support for the closure rather than the reform of factories into user led enterprises was linked to class attitudes and the devaluation of working class industry.
The meeting called for swift action given the timescale for closures which has just been announced and which has left Remploy workers feeling shell-shocked. A national demonstration is organised for Sheffield on 20th April outside the Department for Work and Pensions office. In addition to this the meeting called for a London meeting to provide an opportunity for MPs and trade unions to come out in official support for the Remploy workers.
To contribute to the Remploy Fighting Fund send donations to Phil Davis, GMB, 22 – 24 Warpole Street, Wimbledon, London, SW19 4DD.
To sign the Save Remploy petition go to: www.saveremployfactories.co.uk/
For more information on how you can get involved in supporting this campaign contact: islingtondpac@gmail.com[/i
So lets not pretend it was all Labours fault, the Tories started it!
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[iDPAC
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London Meeting Unites Resistance to Remploy Closures
Posted: 22 Mar 2012 06:34 AM PDT
A meeting called by DPAC on 20th March brought together Remploy workers with campaigns offering support to resist the planned closures of 36 out of 54 Remploy factories by August this year. DPAC members were joined by representatives from the Right to Work campaign, UKUncut, and Winvisible, as well as from a number of unions and local anti-cuts groups.
Remploy convenor Les Woodward who attended the meeting in London on his birthday said it had filled him with an immense amount of confidence. He said that unlike in 2007 when workers opposed the closure of Remploy factories by New Labour, this time they are not alone. Following those closures less than 6% of workers went on to find alternative employment and of those only 5% found employment at an equal or better level. [size=150Former Brixton Remploy worker Ray Ludford described how Remploy factories had been purposefully run into the ground since Michael Portillo took away their preferred supplier status.[/size
Ellen Clifford spoke on behalf of DPAC and gave her thanks to Les for opening DPAC’s eyes to the reality of the struggle. She described it as highly irresponsible to be taking employment away from disabled people when there are no jobs for anyone and when an ever tightening benefits system is leaving disabled people destitute. She said that the government’s education policies show they have no interest in building inclusive societies and if they really cared about disabled people’s access to mainstream employment they would be removing rather than promoting segregated education and investing in Access to Work.
The meeting questioned government figures which suggest the factories are unsustainable and the likelihood of any money saved from the closures being invested in Access to Work. There was also anger at the profit charities are set to make by delivering workfare programmes supporting disabled people into non-existent jobs. Support for the closure rather than the reform of factories into user led enterprises was linked to class attitudes and the devaluation of working class industry.
The meeting called for swift action given the timescale for closures which has just been announced and which has left Remploy workers feeling shell-shocked. A national demonstration is organised for Sheffield on 20th April outside the Department for Work and Pensions office. In addition to this the meeting called for a London meeting to provide an opportunity for MPs and trade unions to come out in official support for the Remploy workers.
To contribute to the Remploy Fighting Fund send donations to Phil Davis, GMB, 22 – 24 Warpole Street, Wimbledon, London, SW19 4DD.
To sign the Save Remploy petition go to: www.saveremployfactories.co.uk/
For more information on how you can get involved in supporting this campaign contact: islingtondpac@gmail.com[/i
So lets not pretend it was all Labours fault, the Tories started it!
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