Some female sports should be taken far more seriously by the media and given wide exposure.

That's disgusting and sexist. Do you have any more?

Reluctantly, and only to demonstrate how exploitative and sexist the sport of lingerie football is, you understand.

Garters. Awesome.

I'm sorry, but this is yet another non story, whipped up out of all proportions, by our media (Andy Gray/Richard Keys and Sepp Blatter, anyone), to deflect attention away from their 'behaviour' of the last few months ...see the Leveson enquiry

To be honest, there's not been much British female success this year, bar Beth Tweddle (and that was 'only' Euro level). The rest of our successful sportswomen, will have been in sports that don't get much exposure. One of today's national newspapers wanted SPOTY recognition for a woman who'd lost her parents but was still a world champion....in taekwando. Now, I'm not knocking taekwando, but I'm guessing 99.9% of the UK wouldn't know this woman's face if she fell over them, let alone know her name.

It's just been announced that the Beeb are to review their selection procedure for SPOTY. WHY? Are they trying to be deliberately politically correct, so no-one can be left out. It'll be like Big Brother, where they HAVE to have somebody that's either gay/lesbian/black/jewish/disabled/asian/agnostic/transgender/dwarfism/fat/disfigured/intellectual etc.
Why can't people just be chosen for what they've acheived thatsporting year, not because they "tick the box" for some particular 'group of people'

The Beeb need to look at axing SPOTY anyway, as they really don't show much LIVE sport anymore

F1 (which they'll lose 60% of next year, and share the rest with Sky), and Moto GP
A few games of rugby (both codes)
A few selected horse race meetings
Two, four round golf tournaments
A few live football league/league cup games (with the World cup and Euro's every four years)
A couple of athletics meetings
A couple of snooker/darts comps
3 weeks worth of tennis
and the Olympics/Commonwealth's every 4 years
and that's it

They show NO cricket or boxing,and precious little football, at all

So, like, if they've won a world championship?

So, of the nominations we have:

Mark Cavendish - Rides a bike and became famous for a supporting role in this year's Tour de France

Alastair Cook - Long pants - disqualified

Mo Farrah - Who? I bet I'm not the only one who thought this was a female nomination to slip under the radar

Amir Khan - Nice lad and decent boxer but needs to step up and test himself

Andy Murray - Terminally whingeing kid who desparately needs to sack his mum and make his own way in the world

Darren Clarke - More famous for tragically losing his wife than any sporting achievement. But anyway: Long pants - disqualified

Luke Donald - Long pants - disqualified

Dai Greene - (see Mo Farrah)

Rory McIlroy - "The youngest since..." says it all really and..... Long pants - disqualified

Andrew Strauss - South African and....... Long pants - disqualified

If that's the best they can come up with then it really does need euthenasing

If that's the list it's a fiddle to get Murray to win - on the basis he'll be the only one most have heard of. BBC Sport is a joke. The sooner that particular fawning show gets scrapped the better. It's awful.

Saw him win the world 5000m title in pretty impressive style this year.

That's as may be but if you polled the average street, I reckon the answer would be "that little dark-haired girl off Eastenders"

Winning the green jersey in Tour de France is a pretty big deal, Cavendish is much more famous on the continent than he is here.

This year he also, became World Road Race Champion in London and became only the second man in history to win the final stage of the Tour de France on the Champs-Elysées 3 times in succession.

As regards the job he does as a road race sprinter, he's comfortably the best in the world.

But in Britain cycling is a non-event for most people except for the Olympics. I'm sure fans of most of the other contenders could reel off a list of their recent achievements that will sound as vaguely impressive as the above. Cavendish's achievements are all well and good, but I'm sure most people don't care - hardly anyone would notice if you'd made all that up.

The Viking couldn't lace John Thomas Wilson's boots.
A real athlete.

To make sure there's at least one woman in it per year from now on

HTH

Golf is not a f******g sport.

Anything you can "play" while sitting in a car cannot possibly be described as a sport. Monopoly is more of a sport than golf.

Andy Murray would be one of a long line of winners of the title who actually doesn't posess a personality. He should be disqualified on those grounds.

I think I'll put together an alternative list in my spare time today.

A fairly standard Definition of "sport":
An activity involving physical exertion and skill that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often undertaken competitively.
Golf is very clearly a sport by any standard definition.


A true non sequitur. Amateur RL is a participation sport, the fact that there are not thousands watching every game is not a refelction on the flourishing or non-flourishing of RL. I would suggest Premier League football is by and large flourishing, you wouldn't say that the fact only 20 speccies turn up at park Sunday league games in manchester contradicts that would you?


Came close, but doesn't say much.


Is there anything to stop a woman golfer joining the main Tour? I don't know, but would have thought if one applied, she couldn't nowadays be declined on grounds of sex?

You're not the only one with flashes of amateur brilliance. At Clayton, a nice little sloping 9 hole course, I once held the record for 18 years with a 31.

I did a bit better on the 2nd.

Is it played in long pants (and in this instance breeks or plus-fours are long pants)?

If so, disqualified, simple as

Chess involves physical exertion. By your "definition" gardening is quite clearly a sport.

Women (at least one I know of) have been invited to play on events on the main tours through sponsors exemptions.

To qualify for a place on the main tour though, they'd first need to get their tour card by going through qualifying school.

Never mind the "standard" definitions, whatever that means, just listen to your Uncle Barbudo.
It's not a sport, it's a pastime.
I said so, so that's it.
End of.


oh ... and ... FACT !

I'd love to see Michelle Wie on the greens.

The greenkeeper wouldn't be too happy

It's only a sport if you have to change your shoes to do it.

Golf - Sport
Darts - Not sport.

I'd love to see Michelle Wie on the tee.

If you really think moving chess pieces involves "physical exertion" then you are mad as a box of frogs. Honestly, it ain't what we're talking about.

Gardening is, actually, an extremely good source of physical activity. It can involve a great deal of exertion, and usually much aerobic exercise. But it is plainly nutty of you to suggest it fits the definition as a sport, so I am more inclined to the view that you're on the wind up.

So for the Michelle Wies of this world can I assume the answer is she prefers to be a big and very highly paid fish in the female pond than an also-ran earning peanuts in the male pond?