where are kids starving, in fact, I'll qualify that, where are kids starving that is anyone's fault other than the parents that procreated and can't afford them?

it is not MY job to pay for other people to have unprotected sex.

Yes it is. In the same way as when you get ill or need the police or drive on the roads or aren't killed by buildings collapsing around you or unsafe working practices, I, along with everyone else, has paid for that.

It's called civilised society.

This is a message to all, put your head above the parapet and lay out your views here the expect them to be pulled apart and criticised, this isn't the Disney forum, I suggest those who are not happy with this think before they air their views.

agree 100%, but what I don't expect is direct personal abuse and [isome[/i posters being immune to the AUP.

LOLZ



Your day-to-day "normal" self doesn't express these opinions does he ?

yes, too many people live lives they can't afford.

Do you want a clacker and a scarf to go with that attitude?

No personal responsibility.

agree 100%, that's what poe means, "I'll do as I please, someone else can pick up the tab"

That's what our political masters want. Their whole ethos (and "system"icon_wink.gif is based on expanding credit. The Tories are still looking at introducing more schemes to encourage people who can't afford it to borrow to buy houses. Glad to see the EU s trying to block buy-to-let mortgages though. About time someone addressed the elephant in the room of market distortion via buy-to-let.

Make your bloody mind up.

You trot out the "politics of envy" at any and every opportunity, despite the fact that you more often use it in the wrong context than the correct one.

The welfare state has absolutely nothing to do with poe, it has everything to do with social responsibility.

If absolutely everyone lived within their means, not relying on credit at all - yes even mortgages are credit - then the western economies would've collapsed centuries ago and we'd be back to barter trade and periods of starvation.

Just because you declare yourself to be socially irresponsible, doesn't necessarily mean that those of us with a social conscience are envious of you. Quite the opposite in fact

Every time the organ grinder starts up the handle you can always guarantee that this little monkey in its pillbox hat will pop up and shake a tin in your face, its almost like they are the same person...

Isn't it strange though?

There seems to be a number of organ grinders all sharing the same monkey.

I would've thought that sharing a single resource, no matter how useless it may be, would be a tad too "socialist" for many of them

I can guarantee you that it isn't the fault of the children. But it seems you'd happily see them suffer and die as long as it saved you a few quid? No offence, but that's a pretty despicable attitude to have.

The so-called 'politics of envy' are more than matched by the 'politics of resentment'.

And lack of responsibility is not 'envy' by any recognisable definition of the word.

Anyone with a line of credit is by definition living a life they can't afford. If everyone spent only what they earned, the current Capitalist model would collapse around our ears. In fact that's more or less what happened in 2008. Virtually every Western democracy has built their economic recovery since then on convincing people to spend money they don't actually have.

Football supporter politics. I would like to say I expected better but....well I didn't. Not from you.

Socialists like this attitude don't they. The more people who have to rely on the state the better. Makes it easier for them to be controlled.

Isn't that how diseases spread?

You see - thats what the organ grinder would have said...

You are making even less sense than usual.

To you possibly, everyone else knows what I mean.

I want to ask you a question though - define a socialist, start with me, do you class me as a socialist from the stuff I post here ?

ROFPMSL

The whole ideology behind Thatcher's "right to buy" was to create a nation of wage and mortgage slaves. The current incumbents are perpetuating the philosophy, as did Noooooo Labour before them (so don't accuse Blair of being a socialist)

The sun will stop shining before you get an answer.

I have been waiting years for answers to straight forward questions from this person so I wouldn't count on anything of substance to be forthcoming anytime soon.

Well quite, as we all know the purpose of a trolling account is not to give answers, possibly because the real person behind the account has no personality or opinion of their own, but one can try...