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| I'm sure that if god had permitted me to be sexually abused as a child, as part of his great master plan, I'd be very happy to work for him. Nice guy. Obviously he produces rejects on his assembly line, so can't be that omnipotent, and as for some reason he also can't cure them, or kill them himself, it makes perfect sense for him to tell me to do it.
In the old days, he would've just smote them, or levelled the town they lived in with a volcano or flood or something, but these days he obviously prefers to subcontract the dirty work.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"I'm sure that if god had permitted me to be sexually abused as a child, as part of his great master plan, I'd be very happy to work for him. Nice guy. Obviously he produces rejects on his assembly line, so can't be that omnipotent, and as for some reason he also can't cure them, or kill them himself, it makes perfect sense for him to tell me to do it.
In the old days, he would've just smote them, or levelled the town they lived in with a volcano or flood or something, but these days he obviously prefers to subcontract the dirty work.'"
He has quite a lot on his plate giving malaria and HIV to African babies. It makes sense to outsource the sex offender murders to a couple of rednecks.
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| I suppose it's not that much different from getting the Romans to execute his lad. If I arranged for some people to torture and crucify my son, I'd expect to do some significant jail time. I never did understand why, if I'm a supreme being, in that case getting my son killed is like the best thing eva and we should all be eternally grateful.
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| Even if we should be grateful to him for having his son murdered, bringing him back to life three days later negates the sacrifice somewhat.
"I'm gonna kill the lad to save you from your sins, but then I'm gonna raise him from the dead and most of you are still going to Hell."
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Even if we should be grateful to him for having his son murdered, bringing him back to life three days later negates the sacrifice somewhat.
"I'm gonna kill the lad to save you from your sins, but then I'm gonna raise him from the dead and most of you are still going to Hell."'"
but we get chocolate...surely that's a reason to build Churches?
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| Quote ="Standee"but we get chocolate...surely that's a reason to build Churches?'"
Chocolate, cake and beer is proof that God exists and that He loves us.
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| and why would the devil punish us in hell? We are doing all the stuff he loves, rebelling against God etc, when we get there he should be like "Bro, loved that sh*t you did with the paedo, btw though bro he lives not far from here and I'm like kind of his friend...so....leave that dispute you did on earth, on earth and stuff"
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| I know it's a long time ago, and there may be jurisdictional issues, but is Operation Yewtree looking into that randy old bugger the Holy Ghost for his serious sexual assault on Mary and putting her up the duff?
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| Another thread that's quickly turned to slagging off Christianity.
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| If it helps Islam, Hinduism, Judaism and all the others are all equally as silly.
Why people presented with the facts of the world still persist in believing in stupid superstition is beyond me.
You not find it strange that people born in India think Hinduism is right and the people born in Pakistan think it's Islam?
The magic man in the sky made everything.
I think religions is pathetic, and yes it sounds harsh but people who believe it are idiots.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"If it helps Islam, Hinduism, Judaism and all the others are all equally as silly.
Why people presented with the facts of the world still persist in believing in stupid superstition is beyond me.
You not find it strange that people born in India think Hinduism is right and the people born in Pakistan think it's Islam?
The magic man in the sky made everything.
I think religions is pathetic, and yes it sounds harsh but people who believe it are idiots.'"
I'm not a religious person, only go to church for weddings/Christenings/funerals, but it gets a bit tedious when every thread on here about religion brings out the same old people spouting the same old lines. Even the OP on this thread was focused on vigilantism but it has been derailed.
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"I'm not a religious person, only go to church for weddings/Christenings/funerals, but it gets a bit tedious when every thread on here about religion brings out the same old people spouting the same old lines. Even the OP on this thread was focused on vigilantism but it has been derailed.'"
It's a thread about a vigilante couple on a divine mission and you think talking about religion is derailing the thread?
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| Quote ="Him"It's a thread about a vigilante couple on a divine mission and you think talking about religion is derailing the thread?'"
They say they were on a divine mission from God I know.
If there were no religious connotations and they lynched a kiddy fiddler what would peoples opinions be on that? I personally think that two wrongs don't make a right and that cold blooded murder is never justified.
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"icon_rolleyes.gif Another thread that's quickly turned to slagging off Christianity.'"
Once Christianity keeps its nose out of everyone else's shlt, I sincerely promise that I'll stop 'slagging it off'. Or at least cut back a bit.
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| Quote ="wigan_rlfc"icon_rolleyes.gif Another thread that's quickly turned to slagging off Christianity.'"
Sad isn't it. It's a shame some posters have to thrust their bigoted hatred and intolerance into an open arena such as.
One has to hope that these people never get into any kind of position of responsibility where they would no doubt seek to discriminate against those of religion.
As for the poster who said people who 'believe it are idiots'. This is a totally bonkers statement considering the scientists, inventors etc through the years who have been religious (no I won't list them). Are they all idiots?
Ok you hate religion - we GET it.
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| You are and I stand by it.
People had no choice back in the day, you believed religion or you were killed.
Bigoted for calling it as it is.
Magic man in the sky made every thing...you realise how idiotic that is and sounds right?
Believe in me and I'll love you but if you don't I'll make you suffer for eternity because I love you.
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| I like this
BIBLE DEATH COUNT.
GOD= 33,041,220
Devil= 10
Now granted 10 is still in the seriel killer territory but actual REAL people have killed more than 10 directly.
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| Quote ="Wire Yed"You are and I stand by it.
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I am what?
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People had no choice back in the day, you believed religion or you were killed.
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Not sure it was quite that draconian - possibly at certain times but how does that explain the millions of people nowadays who are religious and who contribute great things to the world?
Bit simplistic to say they are all idiots isn't it?
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Magic man in the sky made every thing...you realise how idiotic that is and sounds right?
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Agreed, it does sound far fetched and that's why I don't believe it.
But I don't mock or abuse others for thinking that if they wish. This aggressive chest beating atheism is just sad.
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| Sad?
No
Fed up of all the crap I've/we've had to put up with directly and indirectly in one way or another because of religion.
Humanity and it's regression due to religion
Persecution because of religion
War because of religion
I could go on all day.
As they say Religion is like a penis, it's ok to have one but I don't need to see it and I don't want it shoved down my throat.
Unfortunately it still influences far more than it should and I will always stand by if you believe in religion then you're an idiot.
I'm not forcing my atheism on people but I will say it as I see it.
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| ALL religions are philosophies based on fear and ignorance.
Once you can deal with that, life is much more enjoyable.
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| The only reason anyone believes in any religion is they have been brainwashed.
That is why all religions major on getting the young indoctrinated from the earliest possible age.
I agree that it is inexplicable how millions of intelligent people around the globe all come to realise that they are Hindu / Muslim / Christian / Whatever FOR NO OTHER REASON than their parents were, and so forced them down the same path - yet remain convinced that the particular religion is the only true religion. Even though they can see that millions of others from other religions suffer from identical illusions.
Thousands of nutters across the ages have done - and continue to do - all manner of obscene acts citing their god in justification of them. If religion was abolished,nutters might still commit heinous crimes, but at least they wouldn't be able to make excuses and hide behind imaginary deities.
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"ALL religions are philosophies based on fear and ignorance.
Once you can deal with that, life is much more enjoyable.'"
Ah, like the benign and caring social conditions enjoyed by the good folks in North Korea perhaps? I think you are getting a tad mixed up with Communism my friend.
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| Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"Ah, like the benign and caring social conditions enjoyed by the good folks in North Korea perhaps? I think you are getting a tad mixed up with Communism my friend.'"
Worst. Logic. Ever.
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| Quote ="Him"Worst. Logic. Ever.'"
In your opinion. And that of a duck.
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| Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"Ah, like the benign and caring social conditions enjoyed by the good folks in North Korea perhaps? I think you are getting a tad mixed up with Communism my friend.'"
Since you mention it there are alot of similarities between religion and North Korea. At least I don't get Kim Yong Un knocking on my door trying to get me to join his regime.
North Korea have been responsible for a lot less wars and suffering too.
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