Not read anything on it, but my mate at work says all the rumours are really underwhelming?

I'm shocked they're announcing it so soon. Surely this is make or break for Sony? Has anything been rumoured on how backwards compatible they will be?

There are rumours that Sony and Microsoft have both got together and shook hands on both new consoles NOT being backwards compatible and that neither will support used games. How much creed you give rumours about pending console releases I'm not sure, but it's an interesting theory. One side allowing used games and the other not would be an enormous competitive advantage, so it'll be very interesting to see if that turns out to be true. Any positive press caused by the reveals would be swamped with angry backlashes from retailers and consumers about that. Another rumour is that both will be online-only, so you won't be able to play games, even offline, if you are not connected to the internet. Another bone of contention for some that idea.

If anything, from the rumours, it looks like the next generation is going to be an exact replica of this one. Sony to have a slightly better machine technically, but Xbox to be out first and have more of a cohesive offering in terms of Live/Kinnect/Xbox Music etc. Price points will be interesting too, will the Xbox be more expensive this time with Kinnect 2 bundled in, or will MS again subsidise the kit to ensure it's again cheaper than PS?

Internet only would be absolutely stupid, purely because it isn't them that provide the internet so it would be unfair on users if they were to suffer internet issues and be without a console.

Apparently on the new Xbox you need to be connected to XBL to even play games



That would be a stupid decision to go with.

Another apparently is the technology Sony patented for 1 use were for Blu Ray movies, not games which would put them at an obvious huge advantage over Microsoft.

I've just finished LA Noire again, and I have to say, after all the furore about the ending of Mass Effect 3, I think that the ending in LA Noire is far far worse. It makes playing the whole game just a complete waste of time.

The guy doing the PS4 reveal currently is a complete deadbeat. Why would they allow such a weak voiced geek to do it? Why is he dressed in such scruffy clothes, having obviously not had a shower this week? Why are the bags under his eyes so big? Not much being revealed so far, just lots of buzz word dropping and developer geek chat.

Been quite a bit actually, especially when you understand the tech stuff.

Such as? Your terraflops and systems architecture simplicity and duplicity are very nice, but they don't mean much. Do they?

Well for teraflops the easy way more = better



The things like GDDR5 memory as standard RAM is quite interesting because a couple of weeks ago I heard a PC specialist say that it's a bit too unstable to make good standard RAM at the minute so if they pull that off then it will be extremely fast.

The remote assistance and share features look good too.

The remote play stuff on Vita is a decent idea and they seem to have improved the online setup. The remote assistance is a good idea, but one wonders if there will be an impact on achievements if you use that, surely there will? The sharing and being able to view what your friends are playing is a good idea, being able to tell your mates they are crap at something while they are doing will be good fun.

One thing that worries me about next gen is the reliance on the internet. Judging by the simply awful quality of the stream, one has to wonder if the internet can cope with it all.

They've gone on about the Gaikai streaming of games, have they mentioned if there will still be boxed games?

Near the start they mentioned how gaming has gone from cartridge to CD but never said what the PS4 will run, that might be later.

The Gaikai guy did say though that "if you see a game in a store" you can try it over the cloud first so I'd expect it to have Blu Ray games too.

That English fella in the shirt was so boring. Just got the stream on now, it really irks be hearing scripted old men talk about gaming. Witness looks nothing more than a watered down Kula World.

Have they shown a picture of the box itself yet? I've given up on the stream.

This seems to be the most popular picture popping up, but I haven't actually seen anything confirmed as yet. Just had Capcom then Square Enix up, heard a few rumours of possible HD versions of Final Fantasy games, possibly FF7 or X.

I thought The Witness looked awesome! Games like that are right up my street.
It reminded me of Myst, for those of you old enough to remember that!

Watchdogs impressed me again, really liking what I've seen from that game so far.

Very strange to not show the box itself anywhere. Very strange indeed. Makes me wonder if they are so far off release that they haven't come up with the design yet, or are just waiting for MS to play their cards before trying to make the PS4 look better.

Overall I thought the whole thing seemed rather rushed, but has potential to improve PSN drastically. It was the usual stage managed, scripted set of geeks/CEOs in suits like you mentioned. The controller has some good ideas, like the share button and I think the social side of things looks promising. The Facebook link (You can add people as friends on the PS through Facebook) and use of real names is a great idea and one I've always wanted on Xbox Live. You add people and then two months down the line realise 'Adder49528sKILLD£ATH!' wasn't your mate Al, but some random guy in Texas. I like the idea of trash talking relatives and friends whilst watching them struggle so much that I might buy a PS4 just to abuse my cousin. The Gaikai integration meaning demos and games bought online can be played instantly is a superb idea as well. My only real concern with it was the Ustream integration, as they were handling the stream of the announcement, and that was simply awful.

On the games side of thing I thought the exclusives were very weak with the exception of Drive Club, but that is perhaps to be expected as they will want to hold back the biggest guns to generate hype closer to release. Drive Club has clearly been developed to compete with Forza, which Gran Turismo never could. That looks a very good game and it'll be very interesting to see how the Forza lot respond to that.

Yesterday wasn't for showing anything, it was just outlining that
A. a new console is coming
B. some of the new features

E3 is when both companies are likely to show everything.



Gran Turismo could never compete with Forza? Really?

The only thing Forza has ever had over GT is the custom liveries on cars - having played them all, GT is the better game. Drive Club looked good graphically but they didn't show anything of note game play wise so for now it could be another one of those terrible racing games where the handling is OTT.

A lot of people trying to read too much into the announcement last night though, they didn't reveal much on purpose and that was always going to be the case, in fact they told a lot more than everyone was expecting. The biggest news last night was Blizzard partnering with Sony.

Now it's wait until June for E3 and what both companies show along with the 3rd party devs.

www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013- ... used-games Potentially bad for Microsoft.

www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013- ... used-games Potentially bad for Microsoft.

Went back and finished Halo 4 tonight. Is it just me or is the Campaign quite boring? The first few levels are ok, but it just seemed to get really repetitive in the second half of the game and felt like a chore. The graphics are impressive and the new enemies are interesting (sometimes infuriating on Legendary mode, especially the Knight characters!) but I just didn't seem to connect with the game. Didn't help that I didn't really have a clue what was going on in the story. Seemed like a bit of a convoluted mess.


Looking forward to Bioshock Infinite coming out in a few weeks now.

Crysis 3, one word - Fantastic.

Potentially disasterous for Microsoft more like. If they do use the rumoured always-on internet and one machine only games, it'll hand Sony a truly enormous advantage and would make me question their sanity.

The only way they could do it would be by linking the game to the user account, not the machine and by ensuring games become cheaper. For example if they sold all games for £20 after 2 months out and £10 after 6 months as digital downloads, it wouldn't really matter.

But if they do £60 new games (I've read rumours about initial £64.99 RRPs on the next gen games) with no used games possible it would be commercial suicide.

anybody played the latest pack for BF3, downloaded it this morning and hoping to have a go tonight.

I want it, but i'm not allowed a PS3. Part of me thinks the Mrs is right, i don't need a PS3 just for a few exclusive games, the other part wants to put my foot down and just get one

A game is something to enjoy, regardless of looks etc. I've just finished Dead Rising 2 Off The Record, not exactly serious, but fun to play for a good 20 hours

It seems EA have launched a broken game. The new Sim City has a metacritc score of 1.7 and Amazon US have pulled it from their site due to customer complaints. There's even an online petition for refunds on all sales