I was actually thinking more of your mates which I thought was obvious with the reference to Farage and the Sun.

They will forever accuse others of that which they are themselves guilty. It's Grievance Politics 101.

Trawl back, if you dare, through JONNY, or Chussy or wotsup's posts and try and find a single policy argument. It's all culture wars, identity politics and "what about Jeremy Corbyn"?

And that is Labour's, indeed any opposition party's biggest challenge. For a large chunk of voters, policy doesn't matter any more.

The Labour Party’s biggest challenge is to come up with some policy’s that the public will vote for. Quite obviously they have failed, otherwise they would be in power. As for Corbyn, yes indeed what about Corbyn, it’s obvious you have to mention him ,he was the leader of the Labour Party that was a spectacular failure. It’s always convenient for the left of this country to blame the woes of the Labour Party on farage and the sun. It’s a extremely useful cop out. You claim that for a large chunk of voters policy doesn’t matter, certainly the Labour Party’s policy on Brexit damaged them.
Also the Labour Party’s policy on immigration may well cost them the next election. May suit the Labour Party to scrap failed policies and go back to your favourite identity politics. Oh wait on ,they already do that, take a bow Angela Rayner, also let’s not forget the mastermind genius David lammy

I wonder why these lunatics think a woman and a black man being in the shadow cabinet is "identity politics".

Do they ever take a step back and wonder, "are we the baddies"?

They could of course just produce a manifesto promising 40 new hospitals for example knowing that they are not going to honour the pledge.

Good thinking, the pleasurable thing for you is if it doesn't happen it's something else for you to moan about.

Unfortunately you won't really get too much normal debate from ghost he's got Narcissistic Personality Disorder, he definitely ticks all the boxes just Google the traits associated with this mental illness

Hey JONNY you ever posted anything about policies? Got any views on the minimum wage, nationalisation, the NHS, tax or social policy? Or are mindless attacks on other people still all you've got?

It’s not a question of being a woman or being black, as usual you change the narrative to deflect the blindingly obvious. Then you resort to your usual pattern of insulting people who don’t share the same views as you.

Damn right I'm happy to insult people with doubtful or unpleasant motives. Whether you fall into that category I don't know.

Labours failings at the last election were obvious.
An unpopular leader (apart from within his own clique and an abysmal policy over Brexit.

Although there were and still are plenty of other issues, these were THE main reasons that they bombed.

Quite correct.

Yeah this is all true. Their individual policy positions were typically more popular according to the polling but that doesn't factor in resonance of issues. For leavers they somehow thought Labour represented Remain (despite Corbyn being more of a leaver than Johnson) and that was a bigger motivator than regular policy points.

An interesting question for me is what happens to the sometimes very large Brexit Party vote which was the deciding difference in quite a few Labour held constituencies. People who couldn't vote Tory or Labour but for whom in 2019 the most salient issue was Brexit. Johnson is trying desperately to string it out but by 2024 it will be over as a major issue for the next decade or so. Where do those votes go when normal issues return to the top of the list?

The problem is, is that no one with half a braincell trusts Labour given the lies they told last time they were in power.

And how is trust going to be with Bojo & Co, given that their compulsion for "mis-speaking" is the worst form any Government in living memory

I see. Latest polling puts Labour on 36% and Cons on 37%. Are you writing off the full 36% as having "Half a braincell"?

But what does the other half of your brain cell reckon, and which of your pathetic multiniks are you on about

See you've conveniently expunged Tony Blair from your list of the worst form of governments in living memory for telling porkies, also just an observation, but you seem to have reverted back to type with the infantile bojo name calling, sad really.

The projection from the last poster about name calling is overwhelming.

For someone who doesn't have an opinion apparently, and considers themselves impartial etc. They certainly have a lot to say, But only one way.
Seems to also very much ignore the name calling, lies etc from one side yet highlights any small offence from the other side to equate it as a parallel equivalent when it is far from that.
IIRC there's been a post lately where they say they want to focus on the positives, so in other words lets ignore all the lies, deceit, corruption and double standards yet I suspect wouldn't, and on occasions hasn't afforded the opposition/others the same leeway.

Ahh the latest opinion polls which historically have never been anywhere near correct when a general election happens.

They ask about 200 people and extrapolate it lol.

Ooh look Steph is a psephologist now.

Well done Steph.

How is it going?

Shame about the interview he gave this morning. Wasn't quite the car crash interview from Johnson yesterday but it came fairly close.

Can't see any way the Labour can return a majority in the next General election.

Blair, with the yankee hand up his backside told the mother of all lies, the WMD's are still in hiding and it's cost Labour dear in the subsequent years.
Mr Johnson, on the other hand, seems to have issues with the truth whenever he speaks.

At least he's solved the energy crisis, just as long as the busses keep running