Only half? I would say its more like 9/10. They have absolutely no argument other than "grr muslims"

Regards

King James

Since the announcement of the referendum result I haven't heard one person I've spoken to about it give their reason for remaining. It's just been a one way street of ''why did you vote to leave?" as if remain was the default and beyond questioning.

Brilliant isn't it.

(And interesting to note that when the caller ran out of non-arguments, he just said "immigration"icon_wink.gif

It was great! "Which law is that?"..."erm, the one about bananas?"

You couldnt make it up

Regards

King James

I think it's because thick people do not understand the difference between the EU and Europe.

How dare Unilever have the audacity to put up their prices by ten percent just because the pound has dropped by fifteen percent against the Euro.

Good for Tesco, fighting for the working man, I mean, if these price hikes continue, inflation will rocket & Carney will be putting the interest rate up - I'm outraged!

unilever trying it on the cheeky beggars blaming brexit! nice try to make abit more cash jumping on the band wagon of blame everything on brexit



i mean they dont even make the products in the uk do they

Who'd have thought it, Brexit & Marmite in the same sentence, oh well, you either love it or hate it I suppose.

I'm still trying to find that British tea plantation though, perhaps the Raj is alive & well, or perhaps it's part of the governments cunning plan, first recover our sovereignty & then regain our territories.

Let the good times roll.

It is not often I side with Tesco but I do here. I hope they stand firm as Unilever will soon play ball. It is a try on and Tesco are calling their bluff. Unilever need Tesco's distribution of their products more than Tesco need their overpriced brands.

Yeah, the U.K. accounts for about 5% of Unilever sales, that's the whole of the U.K. not Tesco.

What will you do when when fuel goes up, or what about that foreign holiday, & God forbid when your new phone cost 20% more than the last one.

The future's bright though, no more immigration, we've got our country back - hooray.

Simple answer - stay in UK like I do and don't use silly mobile phones. Fuel goes up and down come what may. The pound will rise against the EU in the not to distant future and the Eurozone will implode financially.

Why then have Unilever backed down? Economic reality will always trump bulls@@t spouted by Remoaners.

Simple answer - stay in UK like I do and don't use silly mobile phones. Fuel goes up and down come what may. The pound will rise against the EU in the not to distant future and the Eurozone will implode financially.

The same post with added Crackerbongo, nice work Master Dally.

So Unilever didn't back down?

We have a huge trade deficit with the rest of the world. The whole idea of devaluation is to boost exports and more particularly reduce imports. The latter is key. If people change behaviour the devaluation will prove an economic saviour and prevent the UK having to sell its remaining property and corporate assets to foreigners in order to plug the gap. We are becoming a colony and need to reverse that before it is too late. As to holidays, the pound dropping will result in even more tourists here and a huge boost to our economy from that alone. If less of us go abroad and spend here, it's a win - win.

Look what happened when we came out of the ERM and the doom-mongers panicked about the collapsed pound - the economy went on a great upward journey.

I really want to be in your world.

Devaluation is never done from a position of strength and is an indicator that your economy and currency have difficulties.
If you want to see an extreme example of this, just look at the plight of Zimbabwe.

Yes, it will give a short term boost to exports and it could also help tourism in the UK but, if you seriously think that this will save our economy, which is utterly reliant on imports (which are costing "us" 12 -15% more that before the Brexit vote), you are, at best, seriously optimistic.

Our country relies massively on "invisible" exports and even this is put at risk by the Brexit vote.

Everything will be ok though as we have "taken back control"

Interesting to note that prices rarely come down, even when the pound is sky high. It's just typical big business bully tactics, something many of us have become sick of.

If you really want to feel sorry for Unilever, have a look at their list of brands including the fifteen which have sales of 1 billion Euros or more. The illusion of choice in action.

[urlhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unilever_brands[/url

Indeed - and in a post-Brexit world, that can go along with 'facts' and 'experts' on the list of things we've become sick of.

You're right about prices not coming down very often but, ironically, we probably have the supermarket giants (and more recently the Lidl and Aldis of this world) to thank for keeping prices from suppliers surpressed. Indeed, occasionally they go too far and squeeze the life out of some companies in the supply chain.

However, the unprecedented drop in the value of Sterling and associated price changes are nothing to do with bully boy tactics (although this is what Tesco appeared to be trying with Unilever), it's something that has happened to the Pound and the Euro in relation to other world currencies.

If you are unfortunate to enough to be buying goods from overseas, there are major, major problems with currency led inflation, also obvious if you go on holiday and need some Euros or Dollars for your trip and although there are fluctuations in currency all the time, the current drop is directly attributable to the uncertainty within Europe, caused by the Brexit vote.

Of course, over the longer term things will stabilise but, The UK has voted for change and what we are witnessing is the first part of the metamorphosis.

The timing of the referendum, brought about because of divisions in the Tory party, is utterly diabolical.
Even those driving the exit knew that there would be an economic shock and to have this on the back of the deepest recession in recent times is a bloody disgrace.

Some of the so called "scaremongering" that was ridiculed by Boris and Farage etc is happening now and it's only the beginning of the process.

I just hope that we survive the "choppy waters" without another deep recession.

On the plus side, if things get really bad, it will slow down the number of people wanting to enter Europe and the UK.

Which "side" would you call "bully boys", Tesco or Unilever ?

If you read what I wrote rather than what you hoped I had written, you will see I said that devaluation will only work if we stop importing as much (effectively because we are poorer). The whole reason we have the largest current account of any developed country is because we are leaving above our collective means.

ah so unilever chanced their arm.... only to back down again

Neither - I was rather using the opportunity to make a facetious point about the chippy Brexiteer attitude of being generally sick of things.

As it happens, I agree with your corollary point - that supermarkets have done a lot to keep consumer prices down by squeezing suppliers; price wars are quite handy for customers, providing you don't mind your milk and vegetables being the result of Victorian workhouse conditions.

I feel sorry for Unilever & Tesco is the same measure, the square root of F.A.




Yeah, everything is now fine & dandy because Unilever & Tesco have come to a compromise on price increases, move along people, nothing to see here. We can all laugh again now the storm in a teacup has passed.

I think I just need to get with the program, no more foreign adventures for me, there's enough history & culture on my own doorstep. Interacting with the unwashed of Europe, what was I thinking.

I did read what you wrote but, our visible trade deficit is impossible to balance due the the total lack of a UK manufacturing base.
Through the 70's and 80's this was massively off set by "invisible s" but, even this can no longer balance the account.

In the modern world, we like to trade with the counties that have the lowest labour cost and weve seen over the past 30/40 years that products have been sourced from Asia and China (plus Bangladesh).

All of the large conglomerates are under so much pressure to sell low price goods that this situation isn't going to change any time soon, (certainly not in my lifetime).

The African continent is starting to be opened up as the next "cheap" manufacturing base, which will make things interesting for China and India and Pakistan (if they have some of their tariff's lowered (post Brexit) will continue to dominate our supermarket shelves.
It's pure fallacy to expect the deficit to reduce substantially, even more futile than wanting immigration to fall.

I agree that the country should be working towards a trade balance, however, it simply cannot and will not happen.

Apart from the very well off, Nobody can afford to pay the kind of prices needed for British made commodities.
China pay around 50 USD (£30)per month to their factory workers and India even less plus, the raw materials that they convert are on their doorstep.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that the UK cannot compete.

OK, we are trying to find "hi-tec" markets and with some limited success but, the volumes are just too small to make much of a dent in the deficit.

As for living above our collective means, that's a whole new can of worms and with average debt (on top of mortgage costs) now in the tens of thousands, we have another potential issue if there is any upward movement in interest rates.

We are teetering on the edge and yet 17 million people voted unwittingly for another recession.

Mr Farage & Co should be very proud of themselves but, they wont be suffering when the brown stuff hit's the fan again, it's the poor sods at the lower end of the food chain that will be hit hardest, again.