Another Romney [iown goal[/i?

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While in the US, my son stood on glass and cut open his foot.
In the ER, they gave him an anti-biotic shot, local anasthetic, and 4 stitches.
The bill for this was 1800USD. On top of that we had to buy dressings, and were given prescriptions for more painkiller and more anti-biotics. The drugs alone were over 50USD.
I don't know how anyone can afford to be ill or injured in the US.

Most have medical insurance. If you're lucky and have good employers, then the employers will pay the insurance usually for your immediate family (spouse and kids). My Uncle worked for General Motors and had a very generous medical insurance with minimal excess that also covered the family and still covers him now he is retired.

My Aunt does know of a family who can only afford medical insurance for their kids so have sacrificed their own.

Its a sad state of affairs in the US when you are rushed into the Emergency Room and the Doctor gets straight on the phone; to your insurance company to see what level of insurance you have and how much/far he can treat you

The 47% figure (which hasn't AFAIK been verified to anything) includes the retired and students. But it also reflects the huge concentration of wealth in the US - the reason so many people pay no federal income tax is because they earn about $20k a year and are on the breadline. Whilst you can find examples no doubt, they're not feckless or unemployed, they are caught in the joke that the American dream has become. The idea that they should be brought into the income tax system - as many Republicans claim - is insane; but then the party is that far gone.

Ironically even if 47% is an accurate figure many of those will be the white working class poor in the South who vote for the Republicans because of the religious fundamentalism with which they can identify. So the whole idea that those in this category are down the line Democrats can be dismissed - they probably [ishould[/i be but have come to think the party which works against their interests is somehow standing up for them.

What's Mitt Romney's beef with 47% of the population not paying income tax?

Does he want to make more people pay tax? Does he believe that government can spend taxes better than private citizens?

Sounds like Soviet Communism to me.

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He doesn't want to feel so common. Not paying taxes is what the rich do – like him.

If Romney ever makes it as far as the White House he'll be the first US president who was virtually chased out of the UK by a media baying at his heels and a Prime Minister and Mayor of London (who technically should be supporting his flavour of politics) taking the as often as they liked.

Consider yoursef lucky Romney wasn't president he doesn't belive that people have an entitlement to heathcare (or food or housing for that matter).

Quote ="JerryChicken"a Prime Minister and Mayor of London (who technically should be supporting his flavour of politics) taking the mickey as often as they liked. '" To be fair the Republicans are far, far to the right of relatively moderate UK Conservatives like Cameron and Johnson. The 47% has been verified BTW - and as thought it includes a lot of potential Romney voters, especially the elderly: www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezr ... s/?hpid=z1 The top "non tax payer" states are notably almost all reliable Red States too - there is a core of poor, white Republicans in the south:

Quote ="JerryChicken"a Prime Minister and Mayor of London (who technically should be supporting his flavour of politics) taking the mickey as often as they liked. '" To be fair the Republicans are far, far to the right of relatively moderate UK Conservatives like Cameron and Johnson. The 47% has been verified BTW - and as thought it includes a lot of potential Romney voters, especially the elderly: www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezr ... s/?hpid=z1 The top "non tax payer" states are notably almost all reliable Red States too - there is a core of poor, white Republicans in the south:

And of course the non-tax payer figure only refers to federal income tax, a significant proportion of that 47% still do actually pay tax, but payroll tax not income tax.

True - it's an easy and lazy way to generate base support to give the impression that nearly half the nation are freeloaders.

If you read the comments in their own right some lines are actually quite astonishing:

"There are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent on government, who believe that, that they are victims, who believe that government has the responsibility to care for them. Who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing."

"My job is is not to worry about those people. I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives."

One can make allowances for him speaking off the cuff, so unscripted and to a degree perhaps not the fully formed thoughts he may truly believe (the "mis-spoke" defence beloved in American politics). But, regardless, anyone who aims to be the American head of state has to at least try and attempt - or pretend - that they will represent and worry about the entire nation. This quote alone should sink him, although there remains some way to go.

Its worth repeating until the cows come home, on either side of the Atlantic, once you'vre removed the requirement of any government to care for its population then you have the only obvious question left of "What the hell are they there for ?"

Well, someone has to stick up for Israel and make war overseas.

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I know it's popular to describe Americans as thick, but when half the country backs ts like Romney it's hard to disagree!

Please tell me that isn't true. Please

I've seen it suggested that he was being facetious.

Make your own judgement.

Quote ="Chris28"Please tell me that isn't true. Please '" Partly true according to snopes.. www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp Although, having spent a lot of time in America, Romney isn't going to win.. I would be amazed if he did.. absolutely stunned.

Quote ="Chris28"Please tell me that isn't true. Please '" Partly true according to snopes.. www.snopes.com/politics/romney/windows.asp Although, having spent a lot of time in America, Romney isn't going to win.. I would be amazed if he did.. absolutely stunned.

They voted in this fooking eejit, so who knows?



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He needs a giant

at the end of every sentence.

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." HL Mencken 1920

Head to head live tv debate tonight.
Wonder if the gaff-laden republican will manage to come through the ordeal unscathed?

Should do. Those debates are so scripted and pre-planned. Though there may be some of the 47% in the audience so that may put him off.