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| Quote ="wire-quin"Hancocks got a cheek locking Surrey down bar Jeremy Hunts patch!!
I was out in the village earlier and one of the pubs was receiving a delivery!!
Numbers have risen 50% in the past week and we deserve nothing less.
Fortunately I'm within walking distance of the Hampshire border so can 'sneak' over!'"
Doesn't look like you'll be going anywhere now WQ, you've got your own special tier.
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| Unless we get a new Government in before March, can’t see fans at rugby league grounds next season either.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Doesn't look like you'll be going anywhere now WQ, you've got your own special tier.
On the first day of Christmas, my true love said to me.........................'"
No cries from the north today shouting how you've been picked on. Burnhams quiet. No North South divide cr4p now is there.
I didn't even get the chance to feel frustrated with Tier 3 (24 hours)
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| Quote ="Willzay"Unless we get a new Government in before March, can’t see fans at rugby league grounds next season either.'"
That's the solution, pitchforks at the ready..
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| We’ve had quite sometime to get use to either lockdown or tier three. The figures in the North are in general below the England average but tier three we had to remain without any mention.
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| Quote ="wire-quin"No cries from the north today shouting how you've been picked on. Burnhams quiet. No North South divide cr4p now is there.
I didn't even get the chance to feel frustrated with Tier 3 (24 hours)'"
Are you wanting sympathy after the gloating you’ve been doing?
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| Quote ="Mike1970"Are you wanting sympathy after the gloating you’ve been doing?'"
Whooosh (Sorry if you missed it!),
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| Quote ="wire-quin"No cries from the north today shouting how you've been picked on. Burnhams quiet. No North South divide cr4p now is there.
I didn't even get the chance to feel frustrated with Tier 3 (24 hours)'"
Did Deliveroo get the scotch egg to you
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| Quote ="wire-quin"No cries from the north today shouting how you've been picked on. Burnhams quiet. No North South divide cr4p now is there.
I didn't even get the chance to feel frustrated with Tier 3 (24 hours)'"
To be fair, the labour supporting Andy Burnham has been busy throwing his top copper under the bus to save his own skin
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| Who was it who threw Doctors under their ambulances when care home residents were returned to their homes despite the fact they may be carrying the virus which resulted in the unnecessary death of many. This was despite the fact that they had been instructed to clear hospital beds at all costs.
When we get to the 20/01/2021 Johnson can claim that he is the worst leader in the northern hemisphere.
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| Johnson is certainly not coming out of this with any credit whatsoever - the worst leader since Callaghan. He needs to go early January.
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| Few mores other areas moved into Tier 4 from Boxing day with a sprinkling of northern hotspots. I think we are steadily moving towards a full tier 4 lockdown
Seems we've picked up a more contagious variant from South Africa on top of the one from Kent. Whatever next?
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| So it’s all going to be over for Spring.
So nothing stopping the Public Enquirey kicking off
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| Shows how essential the Tory austerity cuts were over the last ten years with a saving of 30 billion.
We've managed to magic up 280 billion alone thus far this year from the covid fighting war-chest.
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| All this for a handful of actual infections that are a tiny, tiny fraction of cases ... The lies and manipulation is off the scale and the actions of gov are doing massive amounts of harm!
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| What's the source of that spreadsheet?
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"What's the source of that spreadsheet?'"
A Multi-Nick account most likely
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| News from the Times
Britain’s busiest hospital has only one nurse for every three Covid patients being treated in intensive care as the capital faces a tsunami of new cases, leaked correspondence shows.
The Royal London Hospital in east London has reached “disaster medicine mode” and is no longer able to provide adequate critical care, according to management.
In an email sent last night and seen by The Times, critical care staff were told: “We are now in disaster medicine mode. We are no longer providing high standard critical care, because we cannot.
“While this is far from ideal, it’s the way things are, and the way they have to be for now. Things are going to get harder before they get better.”
It comes as the hospital’s doctors and nurses urged bosses to declare an emergency as they opened a new ward and moved adults into a paediatric ward after 200 new Covid patients were admitted in recent days.
In the email, management said that “every hospital in northeast London is struggling” and that the rest of the capital would be the same within two weeks.
Maybe west end unthinker can tell us whether not putting London into lockdown earlier was a good idea or not ?
Bearing in mind that they new about the new variant in September nd their rates were going up,even though the north’s were going down.
They also knew by December 8th that the highest rates of new infections in London were rising fastest in children in school years 7 to 12. In those schools they had increased by 70X in the space of 6 weeks . That is why Greenwhich and other LA’s wanted to close schools down the week before Xmas but were threatened with legal cation by the government if they did.
Plus bear in mind that critical care being so swamped now means they will struggle to deal. It just with Covid patients but with heart attacks, RTAs and crime. Victims of all ages.
Anyone still think Boris is the man or the job ?
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"News from the Times
Britain’s busiest hospital has only one nurse for every three Covid patients being treated in intensive care as the capital faces a tsunami of new cases, leaked correspondence shows.
The Royal London Hospital in east London has reached “disaster medicine mode” and is no longer able to provide adequate critical care, according to management.
In an email sent last night and seen by The Times, critical care staff were told: “We are now in disaster medicine mode. We are no longer providing high standard critical care, because we cannot.
“While this is far from ideal, it’s the way things are, and the way they have to be for now. Things are going to get harder before they get better.”
It comes as the hospital’s doctors and nurses urged bosses to declare an emergency as they opened a new ward and moved adults into a paediatric ward after 200 new Covid patients were admitted in recent days.
In the email, management said that “every hospital in northeast London is struggling” and that the rest of the capital would be the same within two weeks.
Maybe west end unthinker can tell us whether not putting London into lockdown earlier was a good idea or not ?
Bearing in mind that they new about the new variant in September nd their rates were going up,even though the north’s were going down.
They also knew by December 8th that the highest rates of new infections in London were rising fastest in children in school years 7 to 12. In those schools they had increased by 70X in the space of 6 weeks . That is why Greenwhich and other LA’s wanted to close schools down the week before Xmas but were threatened with legal cation by the government if they did.
Plus bear in mind that critical care being so swamped now means they will struggle to deal. It just with Covid patients but with heart attacks, RTAs and crime. Victims of all ages.
Anyone still think Boris is the man or the job ?'"
Who do you suggest is the right person for the job ??
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"News from the Times
Britain’s busiest hospital has only one nurse for every three Covid patients being treated in intensive care as the capital faces a tsunami of new cases, leaked correspondence shows.
The Royal London Hospital in east London has reached “disaster medicine mode” and is no longer able to provide adequate critical care, according to management.
In an email sent last night and seen by The Times, critical care staff were told: “We are now in disaster medicine mode. We are no longer providing high standard critical care, because we cannot.
“While this is far from ideal, it’s the way things are, and the way they have to be for now. Things are going to get harder before they get better.”
It comes as the hospital’s doctors and nurses urged bosses to declare an emergency as they opened a new ward and moved adults into a paediatric ward after 200 new Covid patients were admitted in recent days.
In the email, management said that “every hospital in northeast London is struggling” and that the rest of the capital would be the same within two weeks.
Maybe west end unthinker can tell us whether not putting London into lockdown earlier was a good idea or not ?
Bearing in mind that they new about the new variant in September nd their rates were going up,even though the north’s were going down.
They also knew by December 8th that the highest rates of new infections in London were rising fastest in children in school years 7 to 12. In those schools they had increased by 70X in the space of 6 weeks . That is why Greenwhich and other LA’s wanted to close schools down the week before Xmas but were threatened with legal cation by the government if they did.
Plus bear in mind that critical care being so swamped now means they will struggle to deal. It just with Covid patients but with heart attacks, RTAs and crime. Victims of all ages.
Anyone still think Boris is the man or the job ?'"
Who do you suggest is the right person for the job ??
It’s a mess and no denying it, but everyone seems to MR & Mrs hindsight
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| Quote ="ColD"Who do you suggest is the right person for the job ??
It’s a mess and no denying it, but everyone seems to MR & Mrs hindsight'"
You keep saying that but many people were saying schools should close before Xmas me included well before Xmas
Many people did not think students should go to university in October before the event .
Many people think schools should bot be going back in January before it was partially announced .
Many people are saying that the current policy in London for some boroughs schools to go back when others are bit going back is bonkers .
The government is still getting the whole thing wrong
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https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... s-for-2020
This is the actual infections that have been tested to see if there is live infection in the cases, we already know that the false positives from RT-PCR and the flow tests are insanely high. From lab testing in France of over 250,000 tests it was at 35x cycles of the PCR to be 97% false positives of the positive cases. In the UK we do somewhere between 40-45 amplifications, thus the false positives are almost 100% of the positive cases. PHE estimate of 0.8 to 4% of all tests is a wild underestimate.
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https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... s-for-2020
This is the actual infections that have been tested to see if there is live infection in the cases, we already know that the false positives from RT-PCR and the flow tests are insanely high. From lab testing in France of over 250,000 tests it was at 35x cycles of the PCR to be 97% false positives of the positive cases. In the UK we do somewhere between 40-45 amplifications, thus the false positives are almost 100% of the positive cases. PHE estimate of 0.8 to 4% of all tests is a wild underestimate.
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| Quote ="ColD"It’s a mess and no denying it, but everyone seems to MR & Mrs hindsight'"
The hindsight argument might have just about worked back in April/May, but I'm afraid it's no longer valid. People on the ground were warning of the current inevitability about 3 or 4 weeks ago.
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"News from the Times
Britain’s busiest hospital has only one nurse for every three Covid patients being treated in intensive care as the capital faces a tsunami of new cases, leaked correspondence shows.
The Royal London Hospital in east London has reached “disaster medicine mode” and is no longer able to provide adequate critical care, according to management.
In an email sent last night and seen by The Times, critical care staff were told: “We are now in disaster medicine mode. We are no longer providing high standard critical care, because we cannot.
“While this is far from ideal, it’s the way things are, and the way they have to be for now. Things are going to get harder before they get better.”
It comes as the hospital’s doctors and nurses urged bosses to declare an emergency as they opened a new ward and moved adults into a paediatric ward after 200 new Covid patients were admitted in recent days.
In the email, management said that “every hospital in northeast London is struggling” and that the rest of the capital would be the same within two weeks.
Maybe west end unthinker can tell us whether not putting London into lockdown earlier was a good idea or not ?
Bearing in mind that they new about the new variant in September nd their rates were going up,even though the north’s were going down.
They also knew by December 8th that the highest rates of new infections in London were rising fastest in children in school years 7 to 12. In those schools they had increased by 70X in the space of 6 weeks . That is why Greenwhich and other LA’s wanted to close schools down the week before Xmas but were threatened with legal cation by the government if they did.
Plus bear in mind that critical care being so swamped now means they will struggle to deal. It just with Covid patients but with heart attacks, RTAs and crime. Victims of all ages.
Anyone still think Boris is the man or the job ?'"
Critical care beds under the tories has reduced massively, even so the % of people in critical care beds as a % is lower than previous for same time of year. 'covid' patients as described by the government is pure falsification, based on positive tests that we know are almost 100% false. So you could have 100 critical care patients in hospital with a positive test but only one may have a live infection of something that resembles SARS. The rest are going to be pneumonia, influenza which is demonstrably proven to be massively more infectious (again despite the governments criminal lies) and indeed not even connected to respiratory ailments because PCR positive does not indicate anything other than a positive of a test that cannot detect infection.
This is why the actual confirmed live infection of COVID19 as per the governments own (well hidden) tables regards reportable infectious diseases is so low. it proves that the PCR testing is complete BS which was in itself proven by a lab in France regards actual infections of something against positive cases, less than 3% at 35x amplification cycles of the PCR test, UK does somewhere between 40-45 cycles so the true infections are significantly less than 3% at those amplification cycles. The more cycles the higher the false positives.
Boris was never the man for the job and he as well as Hancock, Whitty and Vallance plus SAGE and Ferguson should be put on trial for crimes against the people of the UK. If we had done nothing at all, no testing, no track and trace, no lockdown, no masks or SD, basically done the same as other years we had a real flu pandemic, the country would be in a far better place.
The person in charge of checking to see if the reaction would do greater harm is married to the person in charge of track and trace.
Get set for another 2 years at least of this BS if people do not resist this insanity, insanity that will destroy not just the economy even more but destroy society as we know it, cause more deaths because of the removed health and social care at the very least, alrready threats of treating 'covid' only patients, thus more people dying. I've seen first hand how vulnerable people in the community have been left ot their own devices, people not eating properly or at all in hospitals because there's no one to help them eat and they can't feed themselves. And wonder why we had a spike in excess deaths, unwell not ready to go home elderly sent back home/care home and not dying FROM covid but their underlying health conditions after being left on their own, skeleton care and not even fit to be out of hospital and no care plan in place, then throw in DNR and you get your spike easily enough!
He's a sinister NWO yes man and not in control of jack!
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| Quote ="Durham Giant"You keep saying that but many people were saying schools should close before Xmas me included well before Xmas
Many people did not think students should go to university in October before the event .
Many people think schools should bot be going back in January before it was partially announced .
Many people are saying that the current policy in London for some boroughs schools to go back when others are bit going back is bonkers .
The government is still getting the whole thing wrong'"
You've made the mistake there of thinking that these people actually listen.
Can't count the number of "aahh well, its alright saying that now with hindsight" type posts there have been, yet they were told before and whilst it was happening.
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