Is this a serious question?

You're asking Kurd families to fight Isis or the Taliban to the death, people to stay in the show of Syria?

My reply was going to be "Are you serious?" - But yours will do

In my little world, give your head a shake Wink, I live in the real world and not in the one you do that just encompasses everything Labour to the point of your obsession with making up innuendos and half truths about the Tory party, you lost on 2 fronts squire the election and Brexit by the electorate get over yourself, fwiw you Blink and Nod are the only ones with what you refer to as pet names, and as for giving a stuff I care greatly about the real world and in some cases do my bit which isn't your concern, the difference is as I'm in no position to do anything about it in most cases, unlike you I keep me gob shut and don't just pay lip service and force my opinions on those who sometimes don't want to hear them.
There you go squire I've given you my secret, hope it helps you, unlike your good self neither do I need something stronger.

Ah, we've reached the "you will not question the regime" stage for the Sin Bin I see.

Hi - it's your friendly yellow centrist umpire.

There's some gaslighting going on here from the right-wingers. If Labour supporting users point out any Conservative flaws they are branded "obsessives" told they are ideologically incapable of acknowledging Conservative success, or given strange nicknames. Grassroot Tories would acknowledge the awful mess the government are in. Which leads me to conclude that the right wingers on here are Reform uk not Tories.

I'm sure you'll turn it to your perceptiive way as per, it would seem you have a plaster for every sore.

And on the other hand if you support the UK and leaving the EU you are branded a Daily Mail reading racist, works both ways don't it mate ,surely you can see the half truths and damn right lies being passed off as the truth by socialist rabble on here

I think you will find that most are ex Labour voters absolutely fed up with the direction the party has gone.

I'm not the one who has to try and defend the government at every turn. So whatever my challenges are, they are a lot less than yours.

I will say you are, no doubt, doing your best.

I'm not trying to defend the government actually, it just seems to come across that way to you because of your blinkered opposition to the party in power, all I am doing is questioning the validity of most of your accusations against them by you and the other two critics on here, I would include wilzay if he was old enough to vote,
It's hardly my fault if none of you seem bright enough to comprehend that, on that note I will end by asking you to provide any indications of the said defence of this Government by myself

Is anyody willing to debate these facts I'm here all night waiting in anticipation

Don't hold your breath mate

I'm not really here to help you educate yourself but familiarising yourself with the data summarised very recently by The Refugee Council will help you out of your ignorant spot.

I always find it odd that ‘economic migrant’ carries a negative connotation, in some quarters, beyond just drawing a distinction with refugees, but an economically-driven immigration policy is considered just healthy national self-interest.

Of course an economically driven immigration policy is of a healthy national interest and surely that's a good thing

So no debate then ,just some figures from a bias organisation


You should educate yourself mate

Feel free to put forward counter evidence

Like I said, and I know it's difficult for you, but the only way you'll make yourself less ignorant is to read up and find some facts.

And by the same token economic migrants are following a healthy personal interest and should be admired?

Unless we’re falling back to stuff about just coming for the benefits payouts. All the evidence points to immigrants making a net fiscal contribution. You can slice it more finely to say your concern is only with those who intentionally do the opposite but then I think you need a narrower term.

He should be ok with narrowness.
Him and his ilk are leading professionals in it.

Quote ="JONNYGIANT"Is anyody willing to debate these facts I'm here all night waiting in anticipation'" https://www.indy100.com/news/refugees-m ... r-b1965324 I'll bite.

Quote ="JONNYGIANT"Is anyody willing to debate these facts I'm here all night waiting in anticipation'" https://www.indy100.com/news/refugees-m ... r-b1965324 I'll bite.

Is that a compliment?

What do you think?

What is 'the right type' of immigrant? Maybe you can give us a list of skills we're desperately short of? The floor is yours.

See, that's where you out yourself as a moron. Calling the Refugee Council a 'bias organisation' is like having a go at a baker for being biased because he only makes bread. They're not just throwing figures up in the air. Do you really think they could get away with that?

Tell us where we can 'go educate ourselves'. Are you one of those people who thinks he knows what's really going on while those around you are being hoodwinked by woke, leftie, human rights lawyers?