People seeking asylum is different to economic migrants ,you do know that don't you

It was a quote from your bezzie mate Blink if it helps

I don't think many would be against people fleeing war or persecution being taken in by the UK ,its the economic migrants which are the majority that's the problem, if they want to come then go through the correct ways ,apply for a Visa, that way we know who is coming in and the have the necessary skills to add to our economy

Not really sure of the relevance of where the headline is from, personally would be more interested whether the headline is correct.

Sure you're not. Which is why it's so easy to get here.
Oh, hang on...

Except, of course, that they're not.

Which barely exist.

Well superglue seems to stick to be sticking with his figures, which adds weight to JonnyGiants point of view, so once again Nod it would appear that your making assumptions and half truths to suit your own agenda.

What I cannot understand is why all these people flee their own country - do they not have any fight in them? If someone tried to take over the UK would we just exit right to Eire - really?

How many displaced people should we take 500k, 1m, 5m, 10m - how do we support them all - do we provide club-class travel on jet planes to make the journey more pleasant - where are we going with this?

I'm glad that I dont live in your little world of make believe, where everyone has a pet name and yet, you dont give a stuff about the real world.
What's you secret ? Double dose of Benylin or something stronger ?

There is no such thing as an ‘illegal’ or ‘bogus’ asylum seeker. Under international law, anyone has the right to apply for asylum in any country that has signed the 1951 Convention and to remain there until the authorities have assessed their claim.

It is recognised in the 1951 Convention that people fleeing persecution may have to use irregular means in order to escape and claim asylum in another country – there is no legal way to travel to the UK for the specific purpose of seeking asylum.

The 1951 Refugee Convention guarantees everybody the right to apply for asylum. It has saved millions of lives. No country has ever withdrawn from it

I'm arguing the point that the vast majority coming over in the boats are not fleeing war or persecution, even sans frontiere moved out of the camps in and around Calais because they realized that there was no genuine refugees only sub saharan economic migrants .
As a country we will always need immigration, but we need the right type ,people who will bring skills that we are desperately short of

Is this a serious question?

You're asking Kurd families to fight Isis or the Taliban to the death, people to stay in the show of Syria?

My reply was going to be "Are you serious?" - But yours will do

In my little world, give your head a shake Wink, I live in the real world and not in the one you do that just encompasses everything Labour to the point of your obsession with making up innuendos and half truths about the Tory party, you lost on 2 fronts squire the election and Brexit by the electorate get over yourself, fwiw you Blink and Nod are the only ones with what you refer to as pet names, and as for giving a stuff I care greatly about the real world and in some cases do my bit which isn't your concern, the difference is as I'm in no position to do anything about it in most cases, unlike you I keep me gob shut and don't just pay lip service and force my opinions on those who sometimes don't want to hear them.
There you go squire I've given you my secret, hope it helps you, unlike your good self neither do I need something stronger.

Ah, we've reached the "you will not question the regime" stage for the Sin Bin I see.

Hi - it's your friendly yellow centrist umpire.

There's some gaslighting going on here from the right-wingers. If Labour supporting users point out any Conservative flaws they are branded "obsessives" told they are ideologically incapable of acknowledging Conservative success, or given strange nicknames. Grassroot Tories would acknowledge the awful mess the government are in. Which leads me to conclude that the right wingers on here are Reform uk not Tories.

I'm sure you'll turn it to your perceptiive way as per, it would seem you have a plaster for every sore.

And on the other hand if you support the UK and leaving the EU you are branded a Daily Mail reading racist, works both ways don't it mate ,surely you can see the half truths and damn right lies being passed off as the truth by socialist rabble on here

I think you will find that most are ex Labour voters absolutely fed up with the direction the party has gone.

I'm not the one who has to try and defend the government at every turn. So whatever my challenges are, they are a lot less than yours.

I will say you are, no doubt, doing your best.

I'm not trying to defend the government actually, it just seems to come across that way to you because of your blinkered opposition to the party in power, all I am doing is questioning the validity of most of your accusations against them by you and the other two critics on here, I would include wilzay if he was old enough to vote,
It's hardly my fault if none of you seem bright enough to comprehend that, on that note I will end by asking you to provide any indications of the said defence of this Government by myself

Is anyody willing to debate these facts I'm here all night waiting in anticipation

Don't hold your breath mate

I'm not really here to help you educate yourself but familiarising yourself with the data summarised very recently by The Refugee Council will help you out of your ignorant spot.

I always find it odd that ‘economic migrant’ carries a negative connotation, in some quarters, beyond just drawing a distinction with refugees, but an economically-driven immigration policy is considered just healthy national self-interest.

Of course an economically driven immigration policy is of a healthy national interest and surely that's a good thing