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| Quote ="wrencat1873"How can you take the mickey out of him for voting Tory 3 times, when you are 2/3 the way there yourself.
At least he didn't vote for Peppa Pig Johnson
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A third of the way actually
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| Quote ="chissitt"The thing here is JONNY, you can understand Boris getting rid of some cabinet members who don't do they're job properly, but Starmers lads are only pretend cabinet ministers that don't have a job and their only aim is to get up the speakers nose and cause disruption in the house when Boris is doing his business, other than that they don't have a job they are redundant, most of them can't even get a second job, so can you imagine Starmers embarrassment when he has to sack them sorry reshuffle them because they can't even get doing nothing right, but I'm sure Wink Blink and Nod will be on here sometime today after they've sorted out the worlds problems to make the necessary excuses for the incompetence, all three have a great sidestep so get ready for them to turn it round and blame the Prime Minister.'"
Thing is mate none of them have given a reply to my post about Rayner not knowing, apparently it's a lie
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"chissit just casually holding Labour shadow ministers to higher account for incompetence than actual ministers. Totally normal.'"
Too right Bungle ,they are incompetent, now they've got David Lammy in ,that will entice the red wall back
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| Quote ="JONNYGIANT" David Lammy in ,that will entice the red wall back
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Nudge nudge, wink wink say no more?
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| I wonder if dumb realises that Yvette Cooper is a woman because it would never happen in his day. At least we know why dumb dumb likes the Conservatives. I wonder if dumb and dumber were in Hastings last week.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I wonder if dumb realises that Yvette Cooper is a woman because it would never happen in his day. At least we know why dumb dumb likes the Conservatives. I wonder if dumb and dumber were in Hastings last week.'"
Funny old world, she is only in parliament due to the Brexit party splitting the vote. Love that picture of her displaying a sign say refugees welcome certain that’s popular amongst her voters. Or maybe not, still she can highlight Tory sleaze . So long as she keeps quiet about her house flipping antics.
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| Quote ="JONNYGIANT"Too right Bungle ,they are incompetent, now they've got David Lammy in ,that will entice the red wall back
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Which one is it to be?
a) he's a metropolitan liberal elite
b) he's too woke
c) he's black
Go on, give us a clue.
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"Funny old world, she is only in parliament due to the Brexit party splitting the vote. Love that picture of her displaying a sign say refugees welcome certain that’s popular amongst her voters. Or maybe not, still she can highlight Tory sleaze . So long as she keeps quiet about her house flipping antics.'"
So you are saying that people from the North are racist and insular. I think that the Tory sleaze far out ways anything the other parties could compete with.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"So you are saying that people from the North are racist and insular. I think that the Tory sleaze far out ways anything the other parties could compete with.'"
I think you will find the thread isn’t about Tory sleaze. Nowhere in my post did I mention that people in the north are racist and insular. I merely pointed out the relevant facts. If they are incorrect please let me know. Thanks in anticipation.
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Which one is it to be?
a) he's a metropolitan liberal elite
'" This sort of attack is the laughable sort of thing they will contort themselves into believing, so twisted has the logic become in their culture war.
They'll try and paint people like Lammy (son of Guyanese immigrants, grew up with a single mother in poverty in Tottenham) as elites whilst telling themselves that Boris Johnson and his Cabinet of Multi Millionaires and Etonians are the people who are standing up for the working man.
You can be a good rich person and a good Etonian but it stretches credulity to believe that a government full of them isn't elitist.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"This sort of attack is the laughable sort of thing they will contort themselves into believing, so twisted has the logic become in their culture war.
They'll try and paint people like Lammy (son of Guyanese immigrants, grew up with a single mother in poverty in Tottenham) as elites whilst telling themselves that Boris Johnson and his Cabinet of Multi Millionaires and Etonians are the people who are standing up for the working man.
You can be a good rich person and a good Etonian but it stretches credulity to believe that a government full of them isn't elitist.'"
Straw man alert
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I wonder if dumb realises that Yvette Cooper is a woman because it would never happen in his day. At least we know why dumb dumb likes the Conservatives. I wonder if dumb and dumber were in Hastings last week.'"
Now now George
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| Quote ="King Street Cat"Which one is it to be?
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He's a racist tw#t,he is to racial harmony what Wayne Sleep is to coal mining
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| I can’t believe this thread is still going for the worst Labour leader since Michael foot lmao
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"I can’t believe this thread is still going for the worst Labour leader since Michael foot lmao'"
Since you started it I can see why you'd be proud.
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"I can’t believe this thread is still going for the worst Labour leader since Michael foot lmao'"
Then you have nothing to worry about after all Boris is well known for his skills running the country and he is surrounded by the great and the good.
We will have to forget the way that Milliband made Boris look the fool in a debate. I definitely look forward to Priti against Yvette Cooper when she defends some other half baked idea for keeping those pesky refugees out. My particular favourite was the wave machine to drive the boats back. I suppose in Summer it could be used to practice her surfing skills. The border force jet skis could be hired out from a beach in Kent because they are of little use in the English Channel.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"Then you have nothing to worry about after all Boris is well known for his skills running the country and he is surrounded by the great and the good.
We will have to forget the way that Milliband made Boris look the fool in a debate. I definitely look forward to Priti against Yvette Cooper when she defends some other half baked idea for keeping those pesky refugees out. My particular favourite was the wave machine to drive the boats back. I suppose in Summer it could be used to practice her surfing skills. The border force jet skis could be hired out from a beach in Kent because they are of little use in the English Channel.'"
Pesky refugees? I presume you mean the illegal immigrants .
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"Pesky refugees? I presume you mean the illegal immigrants .'"
The poor unfortunates making their way to the UK are refugees. They only become illegal immigrants if their applicationto remain is refused.
Just have a bit of sympathy for their plight will you?
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| Quote ="Ovavoo"The poor unfortunates making their way to the UK are refugees. They only become illegal immigrants if their applicationto remain is refused.
Just have a bit of sympathy for their plight will you?'"
What's the difference between a normal refugee and a pesky refugee described by scarlet?
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| Quote ="Ovavoo"The poor unfortunates making their way to the UK are refugees. They only become illegal immigrants if their applicationto remain is refused.
Just have a bit of sympathy for their plight will you?'"
Could be wrong, but if the refugees attempt to gain entry undercover/smuggled in etc doesn't this automatically also then classify the person as an illegal immigrant ?
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| Quote ="Ovavoo"The poor unfortunates making their way to the UK are refugees. They only become illegal immigrants if their applicationto remain is refused.
Just have a bit of sympathy for their plight will you?'"
The ease with which some people have become comfortable with minimising or even celebrating the loss of human life shows how unhinged, how full of hatred, a segment of our country has become.
They are utterly convinced that it's the people below them dragging them down not those above pushing.
It's migrants' fault the nhs is so busy it's close to failure. It's migrants who are clogging up the public housing stock. It's immigrants who are taking all the well paying jobs.
It's not the government who has criminally destroyed health spending, who has shown no interest in building homes for the poor, who has overseen a low skills, low pay, rights-free workforce.
Instead the venom is focussed on those who have the least.
In Robert Kennedy's words, "We must admit the vanity of our false distinctions among men and learn to find our own advancement in the search for the advancement of all. We must admit in ourselves that our own children's future cannot be built on the misfortunes of others. We must recognize that this short life can neither be ennobled or enriched by hatred or revenge."
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"The ease with which some people have become comfortable with minimising death or even celebrating the loss of human life shows how unhinged, how full of hatred, a segment of our country has become.
They are utterly convinced that it's the people below them dragging them down not those above pushing. It's migrants fault the nhs is so busy it's close to failure. It's migrants who are clogging up the public housing stock. It's immigrants who are taking all the well paying jobs. Not the government who has criminally destroyed health spending, who has shown no interest in building homes for the poor, who has overseen a low skills, low pay, rights-free workforce.'"
Go on then give me a rough ball park figure as to how many we should take. Bearing in mind a large proportion of these come from all over Africa and the Middle East.
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| According to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, by the end of 2018 there were 126,720 refugees, 45,244 pending asylum cases and 125 stateless persons in the UK.
That’s around one quarter of a percent (0.26%) of the UK’s total population
We currently receive around 35k asylum applications per year. France receives around 110k per year, and Germany receives around 150k per year. Asylum applications for the UK are less than half what they were 20 years ago.
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| Quote ="Jack Burton"According to the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, by the end of 2018 there were 126,720 refugees, 45,244 pending asylum cases and 125 stateless persons in the UK.
That’s around one quarter of a percent (0.26%) of the UK’s total population
We currently receive around 35k asylum applications per year. France receives around 110k per year, and Germany receives around 150k per year. Asylum applications for the UK are less than half what they were 20 years ago.'"
Roughly speaking our population is 2 or 3 million more than France. Compare the land mass then take on board we are the most densely populated major country in Europe. Nobody knows how many illegal immigrants are in the uk, certainly the ones who break free from boats and trucks without being apprehended seem to disappear without any problem. I certainly don’t blame anyone trying to reach England and achieve a better life irrespective of the legality. Be interesting to see how the Labour Party handles this toxic scenario at the next election, certainly the majority of the working class are totally against mass immigration.
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| Quote ="Backwoodsman"Roughly speaking our population is 2 or 3 million more than France. Compare the land mass then take on board we are the most densely populated major country in Europe. Nobody knows how many illegal immigrants are in the uk, certainly the ones who break free from boats and trucks without being apprehended seem to disappear without any problem. I certainly don’t blame anyone trying to reach England and achieve a better life irrespective of the legality. Be interesting to see how the Labour Party handles this toxic scenario at the next election, certainly the majority of the working class are totally against mass immigration.'"
Well if we are so densely populated, how come the tories have let in 50,000 Indians, 50,000 Hong Kongers, 50,000 Afghans, and 50,000 assorted in the last 6 months
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