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| Quote ="Lord Elpers"Don't you like good news?'"
Yes I do, but since when is a prediction good news?
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| Quote ="Charlie Sierra"Let me know when we get back to the position we were in when this shambles got their hands on it.
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Your post seems to imply the economy was in a good state in 2010. Poor trolling this.
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| Quote ="Ajw71"Your post seems to imply the economy was in a good state in 2010. Poor trolling this.'"
It was growing in 2010, albeit slowly but Gideon has seen fit to halt that growth in the name of austerity. GDP is still 1.4% below the 2007 peak, whereas US GDP is now 5% higher over the same period.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sierra"Is a troll someone who implies that a forecast or prediction is bound to happen?'"
And who said it was bound to happen? I just reported the good news old boy! There are some out there that feed on bad news.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sierra"Let me know when we get back to the position we were in when this shambles got their hands on it.'"
I think you would have been more accurate to say "when this lot got their hands on the shambles left by the last lot"
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| Quote ="Charlie Sierra"Another cheerleader that doesn't know the difference between a forecast and a solid fact.'"
So give us the solid facts on the UK economy then?
[urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26935148[/url
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| Quote ="Leaguefan"Another right wing apologist who may be able to answer the question because a previous apologist hadn't a clue or the question confused him/her.
Which economy?'"
Nothing to apologise about at the moment. How about you?
UK economy.
[urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26935148[/url
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| Quote ="Chris28"Yes I do, but since when is a prediction good news?'"
Well in my book if most of the economic signs are saying the growth will continue and perhaps increase and this is backed up by the IMF then this is good news.
In the same way that if the weather forecast is for the sun to shine all day tomorrow that for me is good news. I guess you are in your usual dark place and perfer to be pessimistic.
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| I suppose the good news is that we're "winning the war on benefits" (but not corporate tax dodging), and food banks are barely used... Oh..
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| Quote ="Lord Elpers"So give us the solid facts on the UK economy then?
[urlhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-26935148[/url'"
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And in the real world getting on for one million people have needed the help of a food bank. Nice legacy for Dave and Gideon.
Here's a new sig for you:
Rah, rah, rah, we're going to smash the oiks.
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| Inflation down again. The 'cost of living' myth put to bed.
As for food banks - when certain people are used to having to paying for something their whole life and then that something becomes free, of course people are going to want to take advantage of that.
If 'petrol banks' were about, they would be popular too.
Society's enjoyment of free stuff cannot be used as a yardstick for economic performance. That is absurd.
Why pay for something you can get for free!
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| Or as the BBC's man put it yesterday (and I paraphrase): today's announcement is just a statistic, in reality the vast majority of people will see no difference at all and still be faced with job cuts, wages cuts and freezes, rising prices and instability.
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| Quote ="Ajw71"Inflation down again. The 'cost of living' myth put to bed.
As for food banks - when certain people are used to having to paying for something their whole life and then that something becomes free, of course people are going to want to take advantage of that.
If 'petrol banks' were about, they would be popular too.
Society's enjoyment of free stuff cannot be used as a yardstick for economic performance. That is absurd.
Why pay for something you can get for free!'"
Do you seriously contend that the rise in the use of foodbanks has been driven more by supply than demand?
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| Quote ="Ajw71"Inflation down again. The 'cost of living' myth put to bed.'"
How long have you been waiting to crow about that tiny triumph? Four years, as near as makes no difference? Meanwhile, in the civilised world, all major economies have left us trailing in the wake of their recoveries.
Quote ="Ajw71"As for food banks - when certain people are used to having to paying for something their whole life and then that something becomes free, of course people are going to want to take advantage of that.
If 'petrol banks' were about, they would be popular too.
Society's enjoyment of free stuff cannot be used as a yardstick for economic performance. That is absurd.
Why pay for something you can get for free!'"
"enjoyment of free stuff"? Your parents must be so proud of their little troll.
If you PM me your address, I'll send you £1 so you can buy a clue...
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| Quote ="Ajw71"
If 'petrol banks' were about, they would be popular too.
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You mean I could fill up the XKR for free?
I'm in.
On a more serious note. The amount of people relying on food banks is shocking. I also suspect there are a fair few abusing the system, to get something for nothing.
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| Quote ="The Video Ref"You mean I could fill up the XKR for free?
I'm in.
On a more serious note. The amount of people relying on food banks is shocking. I also suspect there are a fair few abusing the system, to get something for nothing.'"
You are entitled to suspect anything you wish, but it doesn't work like that, food banks aren't like shops available to everyone, there has to be an identified need and then vouchers are issued to be exchanged for essential supplies.
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| You do know you have to be referred by someone like the JobCentre plus, Social Services, a Doctor and such like and in most cases provide evidence like your bank statement to get your food? Even then its for 3 days supply and you only get to go 3 times and then you can no longer be referred. So in fact you get 9 days worth of food out of 365. I suspect not many people do or can abuse them. If it wasn't for this government sanctioning a record number of claiments or delaying benefits (PiP is at 40 weeks delay atm) then there wouldn't be so many people needing to use food banks.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Do you seriously contend that the rise in the use of foodbanks has been driven more by supply than demand?'"
It's either the worst troll account on a forum polluted by William Eve or he really believes the drivel he posts.
If it's the second, I can't imagine how he sleeps at night.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"You do know you have to be referred by someone like the JobCentre plus, Social Services, a Doctor and such like and in most cases provide evidence like your bank statement to get your food? Even then its for 3 days supply and you only get to go 3 times and then you can no longer be referred. So in fact you get 9 days worth of food out of 365. I suspect not many people do or can abuse them. If it wasn't for this government sanctioning a record number of claiments or delaying benefits (PiP is at 40 weeks delay atm) then there wouldn't be so many people needing to use food banks.'"
I read in the Times recently that Labour didn't allow Job Centres to refer people to food banks for fear of negative press.
Terrible hey?
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| Quote ="Charlie Sierra"How long have you been waiting to crow about that tiny triumph? Four years, as near as makes no difference? Meanwhile, in the civilised world, all major economies have left us trailing in the wake of their recoveries.
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France is doing well isn't it.
Socialism in action.
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"enjoyment of free stuff"? Your parents must be so proud of their little troll.
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As I said, if something becomes free that people previously had to pay for then people will take advantage.
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| So you agree then that people using food banks has dramatically risen under this government?? Tbh I don't give two hoots what Labour did 4 years ago. Its whats happening NOW under this government that counts.
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| Quote ="Ajw71"icon_lol.gif
France is doing well isn't it.
Socialism in action.
As I said, if something becomes free that people previously had to pay for then people will take advantage.'"
Yeah shocking what people will do for a few packets of pasta in sauce, toilet roll and a tin of beans :/
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| Quote ="Ajw71"icon_lol.gif
France is doing well isn't it.
Socialism in action. '"
One really weak example out of 200.
Rah, rah, rah...
Quote ="Ajw71"As I said, if something becomes free that people previously had to pay for then people will take advantage.'"
I know you said it, the words in quotes are yours. The mistake you make is to assume that just because you say something it makes any sense.
It's going to take more than £1 to raise your clue level to anywhere near the average.
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| Quote ="Charlie Sierra"One really weak example out of 200.
Rah, rah, rah...
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But I thought 'all major economies had left us trailing in their wake'
France - the world's fifth largest economy.
Take a look at other European economies and see that you are wrong.
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I know you said it, the words in quotes are yours. The mistake you make is to assume that just because you say something it makes any sense.
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Of course it makes sense. People like free things.
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| Quote ="Ajw71"
Of course it makes sense. People like free things.'"
Of course they do when they prove with bank statements and official referals that they need it. Why do you chose to ignore the facts of how you actually get your 3 days worth of food? I know you're not thick, that just leaves the definition of a troll.
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