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| I wonder what Matt Hancock and Duncan Ross think that other people think of them. Do they for some perverse reason enjoy the contempt of others? Because they seem to seek it very actively, from every quarter. Perhaps part of the reason they want Johnson to stay in power is because he despises them so openly and utterly. They’d like me too in that case… and it turns out Johnson and I do have something in common after all.
It’s like Matt and Dunc heard that pride is a sin and are seeking to be virtuous by humiliating themselves in public just for thrill of idiotic righteousness.
I’m enjoying the argument that we can’t change out leader during this time of crisis. I mean, where would we be with Johnson, clown of destiny, and his 6 point plan?
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| We managed with Chamberlain being removed and that war involved our forces.
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| I would also add Thatcher who was removed during the gulf war so many precedents for his removal despite the war in Ukraine.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"We managed with Chamberlain being removed and that war involved our forces.'"
I can only imagine what fun you lot would have had with Churchills personality flaws
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"I can only imagine what fun you lot would have had with Churchills personality flaws
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I'll bet the nights flew by in their house, constant moaning about there's nowt on't wireless
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| Quote ="wotsupcas"I can only imagine what fun you lot would have had with Churchills personality flaws
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Are you comparing Johnson with Churchill ?
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| Quote ="chissitt"I'll bet the nights flew by in their house, constant moaning about there's nowt on't wireless
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I wish you would write in English even if what you do is just dumb and stop pandering to the belief that in Yorkshire we all speak and write like this, wear a flat cap and own a whippet.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I wish you would write in English even if what you do is just dumb and stop pandering to the belief that in Yorkshire we all speak and write like this, wear a flat cap and own a whippet.'"
I talk like that cos I was born and bred on the same council estate as you not to mention I've lived in Barnsley for the last fifty odd years, the only difference is I lived on the old part of Eastmoor, whereas you live on what was perceived the posh part, me nan and grandad used to grow fruit and veg in their garden unlike you what thinks it's better to have garden gnomes in yours cos you think it's more becoming trying to talk posh won't alter who you are, just out of interest, what is it I do that's dumb?.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Are you comparing Johnson with Churchill ?'"
No he's not, you are.
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| I don’t have and never owned a garden gnome but hey why let the truth get in the way of your flawed knowledge about me. I agree I come from and still live in Eastmoor, my dad was a labourer and my mother worked until she was 60 in a mill. The difference between you and me is that I improved myself and got educated. I had no more advantages than you I just did more with them and never believed that my upbringing means I have to follow the Yorkshire stereotype like you.
You asked why anyone should believe you have Conservative leanings. I wonder how many posts you have made backing our Conservative supporting members and you can add to this the fact that all your posts question only those that raise concerns about the government and de Pfeffel who you try to defend the most.
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| Are we doing this again guys?
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| Quote ="Wanderer"Are we doing this again guys?'"
Apologies on my part, I'm sure you deserve better, hopefully the ignore button has the desired effect.
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| Quote ="chissitt"Apologies on my part, I'm sure you deserve better, hopefully the ignore button has the desired effect.'"
We all do but please ignore me you doing yourself a favour.
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Are you comparing Johnson with Churchill ?'"
No. Hope that helps
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I don’t have and never owned a garden gnome but hey why let the truth get in the way of your flawed knowledge about me. I agree I come from and still live in Eastmoor, my dad was a labourer and my mother worked until she was 60 in a mill. The difference between you and me is that I improved myself and got educated. I had no more advantages than you I just did more with them and never believed that my upbringing means I have to follow the Yorkshire stereotype like you.
You asked why anyone should believe you have Conservative leanings. I wonder how many posts you have made backing our Conservative supporting members and you can add to this the fact that all your posts question only those that raise concerns about the government and de Pfeffel who you try to defend the most.'"
Genuine question and not an attempt to start bother.
But don't quite get why you would link your upbringing to being a stereotypical Yorkshire person, or rather what's the problem with being a stereotypical Yorkshire person.
As a few know on here, i was too born and bred on Eastmoor,but moved further afield many years ago, but i don't consider it a problem if im considered a Yorkshire stereotype.
I agree that you have to make the most of your opportunities, but never felt like i did or didn't have to be a Yorkshire stereotype.
I work away from Yorkshire and in the South quite a bit and perversely some of the things that 'Southerners" seem to view as typical Yorkshire - accent/tight with money/everyone has a miner in their family/ but my personal favourite - we all tell our wife's what to vote and it better be Labour.
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| I just don’t believe it is necessary to use the Yorkshire vernacular, we have moved on since Fred Trueman and his TV show. It is my personal opinion because it gives other areas in the U.K. the wrong view of this area. I am proud to come from Yorkshire and will always be, also I am not ashamed that I am a socialist and I worked for a company that donated to the Conservatives.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I just don’t believe it is necessary to use the Yorkshire vernacular, we have moved on since Fred Trueman and his TV show. It is my personal opinion because it gives other areas in the U.K. the wrong view of this area. I am proud to come from Yorkshire and will always be, also I am not ashamed that I am a socialist and I worked for a company that donated to the Conservatives.'"
Appreciate the reply.
I do get you with this and find it genuinely interesting peoples take on it.
Im a proud Yorkshireman and its fair to say I've probably not lost the twang, i work for a London based business and found it extremely frustrating when i first started work there colleagues associated the Yorkshire accent with a lack of education.
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| Quote ="TURFEDOUT"Appreciate the reply.
I do get you with this and find it genuinely interesting peoples take on it.
Im a proud Yorkshireman and its fair to say I've probably not lost the twang, i work for a London based business and found it extremely frustrating when i first started work there colleagues associated the Yorkshire accent with a lack of education.'"
There is little doubt that a Northern accent is frowned upon by some people.
I used to work for a large multinational company and was told by one of the main board directors that, due to my accent, I would not progress within the company.
A few years later, he had managed to turn a successful business into a basket case, which, eventually, we ended up buying out of administration and returning it into a
successful venture.
It seems that although his "posh" accent saved him personally (multiple times), it didn't improve his business acumen and he failed to recognise that good people weren't all like him, thank God.
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| Quote ="Scarlet Pimpernell"I just don’t believe it is necessary to use the Yorkshire vernacular, we have moved on since Fred Trueman and his TV show. It is my personal opinion because it gives other areas in the U.K. the wrong view of this area..'"
Just how does a local dialect whichever part of the country you originate from give other areas of the country a wrong view of your region, example is a geordie or a Brummy accent the right vernacular, I could go on but I'm sure you get the point.
Surely it's right and proper to talk your natural dialect as against trying to put on something false, the question to you is are you in a massive minority what's ashamed to talk your natural tongue, as for Fredrick Seward Trueman that man did a great deal for Yorkshire and it's people, what have you done?
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| Looks like Boris may be getting a letter from the Met ?
Ministers being pushed in front of the TV cameras suggesting that "the world has moved on" and "it was only a few drinks" etc, etc.
No mention of the PM telling lies in Parliament and DELIBERATELY misleading the British public. Mind you, that's probably his no 1 trait.
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| Quote ="wrencat1873"Looks like Boris may be getting a letter from the Met ?
Ministers being pushed in front of the TV cameras suggesting that "the world has moved on" and "it was only a few drinks" etc, etc.
No mention of the PM telling lies in Parliament and DELIBERATELY misleading the British public. Mind you, that's probably his no 1 trait.'"
The sad part is, the world has moved on and the red tops will still win the next election for the tories
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| Quote ="TheWarringtonWolve69"The sad part is, the world has moved on and the red tops will still win the next election for the tories'"
You may be right that the world has moved on.
However, having a PM that nobody can trust isn't great for democracy.
Personally, I still believe that Johnson will be gone as PM before the next election, which is good news for everyone.
Lets see how The Tories fare at the upcoming local elections. If they take a bath, the jitters will soon reach Westminster.
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| Here we go, keyboards about to go into meltdown.
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| Quote ="wire-quin"Here we go, keyboards about to go into meltdown.'"
Nah, if Boris says all the rules were followed at all times, I believe him, he doesn't usually make stuff up
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| Fluff as Jacob described it.
Let’s get on with the bigger issues.
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