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Unbelievable.
Still hasn't answered the moon and daylight hours questions. What's with those crescent moons Stan? How are they created?
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Given that one popular scientific hypothesis in the field of cosmology suggests that we are all three-dimensional projections of a two-dimensional 'flat' plane there really doesn't seem a great deal of the word 'fantastic' left to claim...
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| [iQuote Doom&Gloom Merchant="Doom&Gloom Merchant"On the subject of moons.Surely in Stan's world, every moon would be a full moon as there'd be nothing to block out the sun's light? Unless the sun was underneath the disk, but how could it be, because there's always a part of the Earth in sunlight. Think about the crescents - what's causing that shadow? And if it isn't the Earth, then what is it?'"
The Sun and the Moon are no doubt their very own light source. Its almost laughable that we've been lead to believe that the Sun is 93.000.000 miles away with the moon supposedly being 238.855 miles away. Also another coincidence is that the Sun is 400 times larger than the Moon and 400 yes 400 times further away but they look exactly the same size in our skies under the beautiful molten firmament. They both travel East to West and you can easily tell with your own perceptions that they're both the same equal size and distance..You can see the Earth is flat, you can feel the Earth is stationary, but according to the Religious gospel of modern astronomy, you are wrong and a simpleton worthy of endless ridicule if you dare to believe your own eyes and experience.
With haughty arrogance the nearest hypnotized heliocentrist will then inform you that the Sun is 865,374 miles in diameter and 92,955,807 miles from the Earth, the Moon is 2,159 miles in diameter and 238,900 miles from Earth, and those just happen to be the EXACT diameters and distances necessary for a viewer from Earth to falsely perceive them as being the same size! So, you see, silly Flat-Earther, it is all an illusion and the apparent equanimity of our day and night luminaries in the sky results from mere coincidental parallax perspective! The Sun does not revolve around the Earth as it appears; rather the Earth spins 1,038 mph under your feet and revolves 67,108 mph around the Sun! The Moon does indeed revolve around the Earth, but not as it appears! Though it seems to move East to West just like the Sun and everything else in the heavens, the Moon actually spins West to East at 10.3 mph while orbiting Earth at 2,288 mph, which combined with the Earth’s 1,038mph spin and 67,108 mph orbit around the Sun coincidentally results in all motions perfectly cancelling out making the Moon seem to move across the heavens with similar path and similar speed as the Sun while always only showing us one side of its surface, and perpetually hiding its “dark side.”.
Heliocentrists’ astronomical figures always sound perfectly precise, but they have historically been notorious for regularly and drastically changing them to suit their various models. For instance, in his time Copernicus calculated the Sun’s distance from Earth to be 3,391,200 miles. The next century Johannes Kepler decided it was actually 12,376,800 miles away. Issac Newton once said, “It matters not whether we reckon it 28 or 54 million miles distant for either would do just as well!” How scientific!? Benjamin Martin calculated between 81 and 82 million miles, Thomas Dilworth claimed 93,726,900 miles, John Hind stated positively 95,298,260 miles, Benjamin Gould said more than 96 million miles, and Christian Mayer thought it was more than 104 million
The Sun’s light is golden, warm, drying, preservative and antiseptic, while the Moon’s light is silver, cool, damp, putrefying and septic. The Sun’s rays decrease the combustion of a bonfire, while the Moon’s rays increase combustion. In direct sunlight a thermometer will read higher than another thermometer placed in the shade, but in full, direct moonlight a thermometer will read lower than another placed in the shade. If the Sun’s light is collected in a large lens and thrown to a focus point it can create significant heat, while the Moon’s light collected similarly creates no heat. In the "Lancet Medical Journal,” from March 14th, 1856, particulars are given of several experiments which proved the Moon's rays when concentrated can actually reduce the temperature upon a thermometer more than eight degrees.
So sunlight and moonlight clearly have altogether different properties, and furthermore the Moon itself cannot physically be both a spherical body and a reflector of the Sun’s light! Reflectors must be flat or concave for light rays to have any angle of incidence; If a reflector’s surface is convex then every ray of light points in a direct line with the radius perpendicular to the surface resulting in no reflection..Show me a mode of transport that has Spherical reflectors.
With regards to a crescent Moon, the Moons luminaries are cycled hence the Jewish calender revolves around the Moon. They can tell what stage of the Month it is by observing its characteristic. A perfect time luminary just as the scriptures say.
Depending where/when you are on Earth you can see the Moon at any 360 degrees of inclination. As usual, the "ballers" over-simplify this fact to try and prove their model, and they will show you two pictures: a picture of the Moon "right-side up" in the Northern hemi'sphere' and "upside down" in the Southern hemi'sphere,' then hastily conclude that this proves the Earth is a ball. See the following pictures and notice the inclination changing slightly each one. This is because the Moon slowly rotates like a wheel as it circles above us.
  
If the heliocentric model were true don't you think all these coincidences what we've been hypnotised with is too coincidental from a Big Bang point of view. To me our Earths got our creators fingerprint scattered all over it, and the Jesuit Freemasonic Rulers of the world have succeeded in hiding and indoctrinating this Heliocentric bull into every home worldwide, Thank God I'm AWAKE and i can see the TRUTH. You've just got to ask yourself why have NO Authentic dark side of the Moon photo's, have never been produced as evidence. You're being fooled Bigtime by NASA and The World of Science controlled by Secret Societies. As the saying goes All Roads Lead To Rome... So true..[/i
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Quote FLAT STANLEY="FLAT STANLEY"[iHahahaha. The BBC, its on the News it must be true. Gee Whiz. Have you actually seen where ALL the specialised tourist stations are. They're ALL coastal, Antarctica isn't an Island period, and its a heavily guided tour and very restrictive as to what you can do. You haven't got the freedom to just go anywhere Nilly Willy. Heres my take on Antarctica and its locations which are all coastal which is dodgy.and so is the "Globe Theory's South Pole.. Why can you never go to the true "Global"geographical south Pole? Simple because there isn't one. They've made one up. Hahahaha, with a glass sphere. If there's a "south Pole".Why do ALL compasses point to the North Pole above and below the equator. Because there is NO South Pole [/i
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[size=150As Captain Cooks sailed a 60.000 mile voyage around Antarctica, this model proves how he circumnavigated it. He simply circumnavigated 60.000 miles which ties in perfect with the internal ice wall. Antarctica isn't an island period.[/i[/size'"
I'm not sure why you post everything in bold (Internet shouting). Do you think shouting expresses your PoV more effectively or are you just insecure?
Whilst I am quite happy to challenge the press, why would the BBC want to lie about such a thing?
Why would the British Antarctic Survey lie? https://www.bas.ac.uk
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Quote FLAT STANLEY="FLAT STANLEY"[iHahahaha. The BBC, its on the News it must be true. Gee Whiz. Have you actually seen where ALL the specialised tourist stations are. They're ALL coastal, Antarctica isn't an Island period, and its a heavily guided tour and very restrictive as to what you can do. You haven't got the freedom to just go anywhere Nilly Willy. Heres my take on Antarctica and its locations which are all coastal which is dodgy.and so is the "Globe Theory's South Pole.. Why can you never go to the true "Global"geographical south Pole? Simple because there isn't one. They've made one up. Hahahaha, with a glass sphere. If there's a "south Pole".Why do ALL compasses point to the North Pole above and below the equator. Because there is NO South Pole [/i
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[size=150As Captain Cooks sailed a 60.000 mile voyage around Antarctica, this model proves how he circumnavigated it. He simply circumnavigated 60.000 miles which ties in perfect with the internal ice wall. Antarctica isn't an island period.[/i[/size'"
I'm not sure why you post everything in bold (Internet shouting). Do you think shouting expresses your PoV more effectively or are you just insecure?
Whilst I am quite happy to challenge the press, why would the BBC want to lie about such a thing?
Why would the British Antarctic Survey lie? https://www.bas.ac.uk
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| [iQuote bandgeekmafia78="bandgeekmafia78"Genuine question Stan... why would a compass point towards the North Pole if the Earth is flat? How does a compass work at all on a Flat Earth? Does it just point towards the centre?'"
The North Pole is Centre of the Pond/Plain. The equator and both tropics still exist on the model. So no matter where you live whether it be Australia, Britain, China, or Timbuktu the compass needle always points to the Central North Pole Surely if we lived on a Ball with two poles, the needle would point to the hemispheric Pole you were nearest too.[/i.
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| Quote FLAT STANLEY="FLAT STANLEY"[iThe North Pole is Centre of the Pond/Plain. The equator and both tropics still exist on the model. So no matter where you live whether it be Australia, Britain, China, or Timbuktu the compass needle always points to the Central North Pole Surely if we lived on a Ball with two poles, the needle would point to the hemispheric Pole you were nearest too.[/i.'"
You can't give an answer based on something with no evidence. A pond/Plain can't be proven because it doesn't exist. Plus magnetic fields are dipolar in nature, meaning they require a 'north' and 'south'.
Besides, if all this is known and factually testable why isn't it accepted by literally everyone else?
What's more likely, that the idea is dog sick or the whole scientific community, countries and planet are all covering it all up because they're trying to hide god. (You'd think an omnipotent creator could just say hello to bring the whole charade down, but I guess it's busy worrying about what gay fellas do with their dicks.)
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| Quote FLAT STANLEY="FLAT STANLEY"
[iI'm not trying to prove the Earth is flat, it is flat. I'm proving that we don't live on a spinning ball. Try trusting your perceptions. I can instantly remember you showing me your Concorde pictures with a beautiful flat straight horizon from 50.000 feet. Curvature doesn't exist and this is what your perceptions tell you. Start trusting your God given senses. A spade is a spade. Forget, science, maths, logic. and hard work, blinking heck. Okay then show me the Maths, Science, logic and hard work that disproves a Geocentric Earth in your own words please.....As you highly proclaim.... Good luck...I'm awaiting....Tick Tock....
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I could recount endless scientific evidence but you won't listen to any of it. So here's a simple one for you. Have you ever noticed that during the day it's light and during the night it's dark? And if it's light this side of the earth it's dark on the other? That's because the earth rotates on its axis, call it spinning if you want. If the earth was flat there would be no alternating night or day and it would be impossible to have day this side of the earth and night on the other side. If the earth is as you say flat, how come we have day and night? How come it can be dark one side and light the other? Do the Freemasons have so much power that they can turn the sun on and off? | | |
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It's getting like a Bedlam Freak Show! Where's my popcorn?
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At this stage, I now know that you have no answer for this. You still have to stick to your group delusion that the Earth is not a globe, though, and so you do, even though this simple question cannot be answered if the Earth really was flat.
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Another copy and paste job. Well done Stan
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| Quote FLAT STANLEY="FLAT STANLEY"The Sun and the Moon are no doubt their very own light source.'"
The Moon reflects sunlight. If it was a light source
a) it wouldn't have phases and
b) it wouldn't go dark when eclipsed.
Quote FLAT STANLEY="FLAT STANLEY" Its almost laughable that we've been lead to believe that the Sun is 93.000.000 miles away with the moon supposedly being 238.855 miles away.'"
"Laughable"? Why would a simple fact (or if you like, a claim of a certain distance) be "laughable?
Quote FLAT STANLEY="FLAT STANLEY" Also another coincidence is that the Sun is 400 times larger than the Moon and 400 yes 400 times further away but they look exactly the same size in our skies under the beautiful molten firmament. They both travel East to West and you can easily tell with your own perceptions that they're both the same equal size and distance..You can see the Earth is flat, you can feel the Earth is stationary, but according to the Religious gospel of modern astronomy, you are wrong and a simpleton worthy of endless ridicule if you dare to believe your own eyes and experience.
With haughty arrogance the nearest hypnotized heliocentrist will then inform you that the Sun is 865,374 miles in diameter and 92,955,807 miles from the Earth, the Moon is 2,159 miles in diameter and 238,900 miles from Earth, and those just happen to be the EXACT diameters and distances necessary for a viewer from Earth to falsely perceive them as being the same size! '"
Why do you constantly lie, Stan? The Moon sometimes appears larger than the Sun, and sometimes smaller. This is because it doesn't have a perfectly circular orbit. You must have hear of the so-called "Super-moon"? Did you look up and see it for yourself? You must have hear of annular eclipses. Or are they just more "CGI"?
Quote FLAT STANLEY="FLAT STANLEY"[size=85Heliocentrists’ astronomical figures always sound perfectly precise, but they have historically been notorious for regularly and drastically changing them to suit their various models. For instance, in his time Copernicus calculated the Sun’s distance from Earth to be 3,391,200 miles. The next century Johannes Kepler decided it was actually 12,376,800 miles away. Issac Newton once said, “It matters not whether we reckon it 28 or 54 million miles distant for either would do just as well!” How scientific!? Benjamin Martin calculated between 81 and 82 million miles, Thomas Dilworth claimed 93,726,900 miles, John Hind stated positively 95,298,260 miles, Benjamin Gould said more than 96 million miles, and Christian Mayer thought it was more than 104 million
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Astronomers as the centuries pass in improving their measurements shock
Quote FLAT STANLEY="FLAT STANLEY"The Sun’s light is golden, '"
Nope. The Sun gives off a wide range of light, the vast majority being outside the visible light spectrum.
Quote FLAT STANLEY="FLAT STANLEY"So sunlight and moonlight clearly have altogether different properties, '"
No, "moonlight" is just reflected sunlight.
Quote FLAT STANLEY="FLAT STANLEY"and furthermore the Moon itself cannot physically be both a spherical body and a reflector of the Sun’s light! Reflectors must be flat or concave for light rays to have any angle of incidence; If a reflector’s surface is convex then every ray of light points in a direct line with the radius perpendicular to the surface resulting in no reflection..Show me a mode of transport that has Spherical reflectors. '"
Utter bilge. When you go to the rugby, Stan, are those convex rugby balls invisible, then? What about people's heads? Can't you see them either?
Quote FLAT STANLEY="FLAT STANLEY"Depending where/when you are on Earth you can see the Moon at any 360 degrees of inclination.'"
This is a sentence that actually has no meaning.
Quote FLAT STANLEY="FLAT STANLEY" This is because the Moon slowly rotates like a wheel as it circles above us.'"
Er, nope, everyone on the planet knows it does no such thing. Including you.
Quote FLAT STANLEY="FLAT STANLEY" You've just got to ask yourself why have NO Authentic dark side of the Moon photo's, have never been produced as evidence.'"
That would be because there is no such thing, when the side of the Moon facing Earth isn't illuminated by the Sun, the far side IS illuminated by the Sun. Secondly, there are any number of images of the far side of the Moon, taken by numerous spacecraft. The sad fact is that there could be a billion, you would never accept a single one as real.
Now, Stan - WHY DOES THE MOON LOOK UPSIDE DOWN WHEN VIEWED FROM AUSTRALIA? | | | |
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| Quote FLAT STANLEY="FLAT STANLEY"
No sane adult could possibly believe that ludicrous scribble.
On our planet, the approx distance from Sao Paulo, Brazil to Johannesburg, SA is 4578 Miles
(7367km)
Approximate travel time from Sao Paulo, Brazil to Johannesburg, South Africa is: 9 hrs, 30 mins
Oddly enough, that works out at around 480mph., a typical cruising speed for a large passenger jet.
But on your lunatic model, the distance looks to be, at a guess, at least double that. Or would be, if they flew in a straight line but as you've previously been at pains to explain, they actually fly along the curve of great circles, so it would be even longer. So how do they DO that on your planet, Stan? Do THEIR planes fly in excess of 1000mph?
And, WHY DOES THE MOON LOOK UPSIDE DOWN WHEN VIEWED FROM AUSTRALIA?
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