Starmer ain't no socialist. He's a New Labour tribute act, and not even a good one.

Don't need to give any Boris whataboutery. Johnson disgraces himself just by being himself. His every waking hour is a shambles.

Well according to Starmer he is a socialist

Johnson has adopted a number of socialist policies and is currently pretending to be a fan of the NHS and this despite having been in the party that froze their wages (and those of other public sector workers) and has once again massively restricted wage increases among the public sector.
Indeed, it took the Scottish government to shame him into offering NHS staff something above a paltry 1% increase.

This is where you can see that despite his often bold words, his instinct is to hammer the public sector

What's that got to with Starmer being a socialist?
Talk about whataboutery

as I predicated btw

Idiot

Owned

Hows things going back there in the 19th Century lads


Lord Mogg giving you a few hours is he

Yes i'm in the 19th century because i think that gender pronouns and gender politics shouldn't be a major talking point.

Psst, you know it's right wing culture warriors who obsessively bring this stuff up dontcha?

At the risk of repeating myself. Idiot.

I'd like to think anybody, on any side of the fence, would think that it's a waste of time.

It's not an important issue to me how other people live their lives, and I don't seek to judge them for it, or get furious about how they describe themselves (except when they self-identify as Pie Eaters obviously).

Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be the case for others in our political discourse, particularly the red faced with permanent fury wing.

Red faced and full of fury sounds like your typical remainers on here

With how things have turned out, it's vote leave who should have the red faces.

Why has the uk imploded like we were warned ,are we facing economic armageddon ,going to hell on a hand cart ,nah I don't think so

Yes, it's all looking brilliant, not.

We seem to be short of workers in one or two key areas or, haven't you noticed.

No, that would be the Northern Ireland Unionists , lol, stabbed in the back with borisis treachery

And they've got to contend with a clown shortage aswell

Could be an opening for you

Very good

On a serious front though do you think Starmer stands a chance of making Labour more centrist or will Momentum get their way and get somebody more hard left, as you say for the good of the country we need a good opposition

The problem is left wing policies are rather popular. Unfortunately policies don't drive that many voter decisions any more given the Culture Wars we are deep in the middle of.

They weren't popular in 2019

Talking of popularity, it seems that Starmer is now as popular as Bojo. and his popularity is growing.
Bojo is now starting to be found out and when there is finally a formal budget and we find out who will be squeezed the most, his popularity will fall still further.
Covid has allowed our leader to say what he like, promise the earth and all without any actual measure.
Thankfully he is starting to be exposed for the good time Charlie that he is. (I know that's a horrible thought).

Fuel shortages and price increases and the energy crisis, with the increased cap that will hit everyone by £129 minimum, the removal of the extra £20 universal credit, the effects of Brexit, and his own unhappy MP's are all circling him like vultures. Plus, the recent changes to NI and other tax changes have still to begin taking effect. Poor Boris.

I would think it’s the general popularity of any PM under the current circumstances rather than Boris, a right mess yet Starmer is only matching in popularity - not exactly nailing it is he

Labour should be ripping the Blues to bits at the moment, yet all you can see is in house fighting and the likes of super left Rayner looming to stab the leader in the back when the times right (or wrong)