into third season it happened pal. its not just me its a general error from ea. they are looking into it and making a patch apparantly. thousands of people are complaining about it

Is rugby league live getting a uk release then? That image seems to suggest so.
I might pick it up if I can get it for £30 or so, but certainly not if I have to import.

Does anyone know of any decent controllers for the Xbox? I like the MS ones, they are a great design, but I just don't like the buttons, the way they are like sponge rather than clicky. I got the Razer Onza a year ago and whilst a far superior controller, they don't last any longer than 6 months and are of shocking build quality.

I've seen the Scuf controllers, which are modded versions of MS controllers. They look awesome but seem focused on FPS gamers, which I'm not.

I'm looking for a bit of advice. My 9 year old has got £200 burning a hole in his pocket at the moment and he wants an Xbox. We already have a PS3 in the house and that's downstairs connected to the main TV for Bluerays and gaming. He wants an Xbox in his room. He assures me he doesn't want Xbox Live, although I think he will within a week or so.

I just need some advice on what to get if we allow a second console into the house. Is a 4GB one enough for saving games? Should we perhaps look at a pre-owned one for Game/Gamestation etc? is the red ring issue inevitable?

Any help is appreciated.

The red ring issue is gone with the recent consoles, it was only really the initial models that suffered from it on a wide scale. The newer ones don't break any more often than any other electronic device. 4GB is enough for saving games, but I agree with you, that once he's got an Xbox, he'll want Xbox Live. There is so much content on there that 4GB isn't really going to be enough. Xbox Live is great, full of free demos, downloadable games, videos etc and if you've got Sky he'd be able to watch it through his Xbox if he had Live. Xbox Live also has a lot of outstanding games.

There are some decent bundles about at the moment. Game are doing:

250GB (Black) with Forza, Skyrim, Borderlands 2, FIFA13, 480 MS points and 1 months free Xbox Live for £220

250GB (Black) with Forza, Skyim, FIFA13, 1280 MS points and 1 months free Xbox Live for £200

250GB (Black) with Lego Harry Potter and Rayman Origins for £200

You can of course save some money by going second hand. Just go with the mantra that the more recent the console variant it is, the less likely it is to break.

What are MS points?

Microsoft points are like a currency for buying online content. You pay for your live subscription and a lot of it is free, but if you want to for instance download an arcade game or watch a movie on zune or something you need to pay for it with ms points. it costs about 7 quid for 800 points for instance.

preowned in the likes of cash convertors for an older style console with 120gb hard drive they are about £100 quid without any games. Can get a bundle on ebay for around 80ish. CEX are asking for 130 quid for a used elite with hard drive so don't go near them, I'd say the bundle deals that saddened has pointed out for a brand new console with all the games etc are pretty good value.

You can have the back 2 buttons assigned to whatever you want so you could have them set to say through ball and shoot for FIFA and the LT/RT can be customised so they have more/less travel time. The feel of them is just better too, the material they cover them in makes them more comfortable to hold.

Have you got one? If so, how long have you had it and what does the build quality seem like? And what are the buttons like? Are they responsive clicky buttons or the same as the original MS controllers?

Not got one but I've used one a few times for COD, it works well for that. The build quality seems top notch and the covering they put on them makes the far more comfortable to hold (as they should be for the price!) there's some good reviews of them online which will probably give you a better grasp of what they're like, but from experience I prefer them to the normal 360 controllers and will be looking to get a PS3 one.

The paddles are quite tactile on the back as for the normal buttons, can't say I've noticed too much because I've never had a problem with the normal buttons before so sorry I can't give you a better answer there, although to save some money you can send in a controller you currently have and they will turn it into a scuf for you which is pretty good but probably wouldn't be too much help to you because of the buttons.

First review I've found so far: www.gamearena.com.au/xbox360/gam ... gue-live-2

First review I've found so far: www.gamearena.com.au/xbox360/gam ... gue-live-2

Quote ="wigan2win"First review I've found so far: www.gamearena.com.au/xbox360/gam ... gue-live-2'" Pretty much as expected then. A massive improvement over the previous game but not in the same league as the big budget sports titles. If it were any other sport than Rugby League we'd all ignore it and it would be consigned to the bargain bin as 'rubbish'. Because it's league we'll all want to enjoy it but ultimately end up slagging it off after a period of time.

Quote ="wigan2win"First review I've found so far: www.gamearena.com.au/xbox360/gam ... gue-live-2'" Pretty much as expected then. A massive improvement over the previous game but not in the same league as the big budget sports titles. If it were any other sport than Rugby League we'd all ignore it and it would be consigned to the bargain bin as 'rubbish'. Because it's league we'll all want to enjoy it but ultimately end up slagging it off after a period of time.

So far from what I've read on this I'd agree forums.sidhe.co.nz/showthread.ph ... s-so-far...

So far from what I've read on this I'd agree forums.sidhe.co.nz/showthread.ph ... s-so-far...

It's a massive improvement on the last effort but still got a few things that annoy the hell out of me.

The control system has changed a lot. You can play flat or deep passes. Which is pretty good as you can get people running onto the ball at speed and busting tackles. but you run the risk of giving away an interception. it happens a lot and once they intercept you've no chance of catching them, no matter where you are on the field.

Graphically it's a lot smoother. Player likenesses on some players are decent. But there are plenty who just look very generic. The stadiums are pretty good and well detailed.

Kicking again has changed, instead of just pressing b to punt, you now have to press and hold RT to activate a kicking guide and then A for a punt and B for a bomb. if you want to do a grubber or drop goal its A or B without RT respectively. Grubbers are useless though, and again nearly always get picked up by the defence who just go the length of the field and score.


Commentary isn't great. It's basically the same Vossy sound bites from the previous games mixed in with the odd new bit and the odd comment from some other guy. As usual it is very very repetitive and every game starts up with the same boring monologue of how it's going to be a tough encounter.


I'm undecided as whether i'd say it's as good as "Rugby Challenge" or not. True blu have clearly nicked bits from that game and put it on here like the goal kicking and stuff. Infact the automatic spot for taking each kick out wide is near 40 metre's out, although like in rugby challenge you can move the ball closer or further away from the line.

It's growing on me the more I play it and get used to the controls, And they have clearly fixed a lot of things from the last one. But it's not without it's flaws. The passing is a lot smoother and it's nice being able to make a break and pass to a running player nearby rather than someone 20 metre's back who is stood still. and there is a much bigger variety in the runs players make off the ball which does make it more realistic.

Managed to get this plus an extra wireless controller for £215. Seemed a good deal.

Robbo do you live in Aus or have you imported it?

I think I might pick this up after reading those forum comments. It sounds flawed, but for the most part those guys are enjoying playing it.

Imported.

Now I'm getting more used to it, it's getting more enjoyable. You just have to learn to not throw the ball about too much and try and play tactically. I.e keeping hold of the ball and not forcing offloads or giving away possession easily.

The interceptions ruin it a lot. but if it wasn't for those this would be a brilliant game. when I say brilliant, i mean in comparison to previous RL games, Don't buy this and expect something with the depth and quality of something like fifa.

I'm currently waiting for XCom: Enemy Unknown to download on Steam.
Very excited, I'm looking forward to a game that's actually hard.
The original is one of the very first computer games I ever played and it's still one of my favourites to this day.

Where'd you import it from Robbo?

www.game.co.uk/en/rugby-league-l ... 20live%202

www.game.co.uk/en/rugby-league-l ... 20live%202

I imagine this has superior gameplay to FIFA. You only seem to list one problem (interceptions), yet you don't seem to realise that FIFA has God-mode ticked when it comes to interceptions.

So what do those on Live think of the update today? Looks pretty good and I think it will be pretty awesome when Smartglass is out.

Even the browser seems to work really well, RLFANS has never looked so good.

Been playing CM 01/02 for a bit of retro entertainment.

I used to think it was easy, its a bloody nightmare. Six competitive games so far, and the opposition keepers have got match ratings of - 9 - 8 - 8 - 9 - 8 - 8
whereas mine has got 7 five times and an 8!
no chance! nothing worse than constantly being mugged by sloppy goals while your strikers play against a goalkeeping fortress.

Wasn't that the year where you could play the default 4-3-3 and with Michael Owen as the central stiker he'd get 150 goals a season and it was pretty much impossible to lose?

I'm not sure, but as Valencia I've spent 30m upgrading the defence and am conceding left, right and centre without playing overly gung ho stuff.