There's no smoke without fire. This looks like it could be an inferno.

Absolutely - perhaps the allegations about the civil service are indeed true?

Is the civil service the new enemy? Hardly anyone mentioned them pre 2016, now they're the devil incarnate.

They want the USA model where they appoint their own people which leads to what they have now with Trump. They cover up for him, make no effort to point out the illegality of some of his actions, I could go on but just think what Johnson and Cummings could do with these freedoms.

errrrm, their job? without left wing undermining of civil servants who are so out of date they still think Snickers are called Marathons and the Girl with the balloon comes on with the national anthem in the background as the three channels we have close for the evening?

I think you are beginning to lose it or are you now struggling to provide a reason for the current administration’s actions.
I would trust the integrity of the civil service above the constant lies of Johnson and his PM Cummings.

IR80 struggles to provide a reason for it getting dark on a night. He probably thinks jealous, envious, leftist, Trotskyite, Stalinist, Labour voting, Marxist-Leninists cover up the sun with a big iron curtain.

I'm pretty sure he's one of those people who advocate making our own laws... so his beloved Tories can operate outside of them in the name of democracy.

You really are a pathetic bore.

What would they do?

There has always been conflicts between the civil service and ministers - in the past the minister has usually backed down or gone - now the government are saying enough is enough - we run the country not you. Nobody likes the House of Lords and unelected body having influence, the civil service is exactly the same.

What I don't get on here is - all you lefties wanted Corbyn so bad and his manifesto would have changed this country in a massive way. Yet you wine and moan when the Tories want to restate the status quo - you cannot have it both ways. Maybe its just because its Boris and Cummings?

One man's conflict is another man's debate.

You honestly think the Conservatives are capable of radical change? We'll be getting the status quo, it'll just be gift wrapped with a blue bow. All this posturing and arm waving from them is just to make it look like they're doing something. You can gurantee that by 2025, nothing much will have changed.

Apart from the net worth of 1% of the population.

Status quo maintained. Job done.

Do we want evolution or revolution - change for changes sake is pointless. I fail to see how nationalising RM adds any value - what is the issue with the service they provide? RLB has become obsessed with green issues - until changes are made in China/India etc nothing will improve - so we make ourselves less competitive - Heathrow runway 3 an example - for what - self gratification!!

Depends of how you measure well being - it isn't all about more money - but that is a bit beyond your comprehension.

What do you mean?

Slightly off thread, why would anybody want to bring Royal Mail under government control. What’s so special about a company that delivers mail and parcels. As sub contractors more or less in the construction industry we are virtually paper free. Everything is done online , however we get parcels from various companies including Royal Mail . So Royal Mail aren’t particularly unique.

If the RM was such a bad business why would anyone want to buy it just to lose money.

Ever heard of E-commerce???

OK in simplistic terms just for you - if your wages stay at a similar level but the council build a new trunk road that reduced your journey or clinicians improve a technique that increases your life expectancy - would you say your well being has improved even though your wages have remained static? A new trunk road isn't only available to the fortunate few its available to everyone. Quality of life isn't just about money

Who delivers your letters?

I'm none the wiser; of course I understand the concept of wellbeing and happiness being about more than money - although that does beg the question why a small % of people hoard so much of it at everyone else's cost - but what on earth does that have to do with my original point?

Yes