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Daily Mail reporting that the ceasefire lasted 72 minutes when in fact Israel broke it at 8.05 am..........
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I have no problem with a person taking a firm stance on this issue, even an unbalanced one such as yours. But the obsession with BBC reporting is ridiculous and slightly baffling given the BBC has a clear public duty to deliver unbiased reporting - and that includes the pro-Israel stance.
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I have no problem with a person taking a firm stance on this issue, even an unbalanced one such as yours. But the obsession with BBC reporting is ridiculous and slightly baffling given the BBC has a clear public duty to deliver unbiased reporting - and that includes the pro-Israel stance.
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Until Kay Burley appears in Gaza, earnestly asking anyone daft enough to catch her eye, "what's it been like." I don't think we can take this latest round of handbags seriously.
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Oh yes, a Stop The War blog. Completely unbiased. No leanings there, eh?
Wonderful response Lebron. Not lazy in the slightest.
So, your blog insinuates poor and limited BBC coverage of the conflict. Let's take a look at the first date the BBC site is quoted, 9th July:
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28233135Israel 'to intensify Gaza attacks'[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28230391Video shows Israeli airstrikes on Gaza Strip[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28227469Air and rocket strikes between Israel and Hamas intensify[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28228620Where are Gaza militants firing rockets?[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28235719Hamas spokesman on restoring ceasefire[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28226799Israeli adviser Dore Gold on hopes for Mid-East peace[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28224562A night of Gaza rocket attacks on Israel[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28235723Gaza death toll rises as air strikes continue[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28222245Hamas fires rockets amid Israeli air strikes on Gaza[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28238748Mid-East crisis: Israel vows to expand Gaza operation[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28224844Gaza invasion 'credible option', says Israeli ambassador[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28222613Israel steps up plans to stop rocket attacks from Gaza[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28216539Israel 'ready for escalation' of Gaza conflict[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28226124'Scrambling for cover' in Ashkelon as tanks mass[/url
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Oh yes, a Stop The War blog. Completely unbiased. No leanings there, eh?
Wonderful response Lebron. Not lazy in the slightest.
So, your blog insinuates poor and limited BBC coverage of the conflict. Let's take a look at the first date the BBC site is quoted, 9th July:
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28233135Israel 'to intensify Gaza attacks'[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28230391Video shows Israeli airstrikes on Gaza Strip[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28227469Air and rocket strikes between Israel and Hamas intensify[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28228620Where are Gaza militants firing rockets?[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28235719Hamas spokesman on restoring ceasefire[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28226799Israeli adviser Dore Gold on hopes for Mid-East peace[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28224562A night of Gaza rocket attacks on Israel[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28235723Gaza death toll rises as air strikes continue[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28222245Hamas fires rockets amid Israeli air strikes on Gaza[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28238748Mid-East crisis: Israel vows to expand Gaza operation[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28224844Gaza invasion 'credible option', says Israeli ambassador[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28222613Israel steps up plans to stop rocket attacks from Gaza[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28216539Israel 'ready for escalation' of Gaza conflict[/url
[url=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28226124'Scrambling for cover' in Ashkelon as tanks mass[/url
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Live on Sky, a couple of hours into the cease fire Hamas sent a group of terrorists through a tunnel into Israel, and one exploded a suicide vest near some IDF soldiers. the rest grabbed one injured soldier and disappeared back through the tunnel into Gaza.
Time for the Israeli's to level this cesspit, once and for all.
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Where is the uproar over the Ukrainians mercilessly shelling civilian areas in Eastern Ukraine? Answer - it has been warped by our Press and politicians into ant-Russian propaganda. At some point Putin will have to hit back at the Ukrainian government. Then we have a very dangerous situation given the way the US and others are sabre rattling.
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More anti Israel propaganda on the BBC....
I wish they would stick to dancing and crap motor racing
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| Quote ="Standee"More anti Israel propaganda on the BBC....
I wish they would stick to dancing and crap motor racing'"
What, did they mention that the IDF have shelled yet another school that was being used by refugees?
You'd struggle to find anti-Israel propaganda on even al Jazeera these days, let alone the BBC.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"What, did they mention that the IDF have shelled yet another school that was being used by refugees?
You'd struggle to find anti-Israel propaganda on even al Jazeera these days, let alone the BBC.
Showing the results of the Israeli attacks on civilians, is far, very far, from propaganda'"
It is propaganda though if they fail to mention why the site was bombed. If it was because Hamas were using it, as they are seemingly free to do, even in the UN controlled schools, then the blame lies with both of them. |
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| Quote ="Saddened!"It is propaganda though if they fail to mention why the site was bombed. If it was because Hamas were using it, as they are seemingly free to do, even in the UN controlled schools, then the blame lies with both of them.'"
don't be silly, Hamas haven't ,murdered anyone, ever
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Does anyone think that the Israel assault will stop the missiles? All they are doing is recruiting thousands of people for Hamas.
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Israel are just doing it for the oil aren't they?
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| Quote ="Nat (Rugby_Aholic)"Does anyone think that the Israel assault will stop the missiles? All they are doing is recruiting thousands of people for Hamas.'"
Of course it won't, and of course they are. However, everyone knows and has known for years EXACTLY how Israel reacts to "attacks" from others, with a massive disproportionality. They'll continue to do this, and no matter how much the professional morally outraged whine about it from 000's of mile away, the Israel leadership only give a toss about it's citizens wishes/fears etc. In a couple of weeks the news cycle will move on and this will occupy the same place as the missing Nigerian schoolgirls and the adult woman who was deported, because ultimately, the vast majority don't give a toss what these sets of nutjobs do to each other. |
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| Quote ="Saddened!"It is propaganda though if they fail to mention why the site was bombed. If it was because Hamas were using it, as they are seemingly free to do, even in the UN controlled schools, then the blame lies with both of them.'"
The site was bombed because the IDF think the Palestinians to be less than animals.
The Israeli military and intelligence organisations are very slick and efficient. They possess weaponry that really is capable of pinpoint, accurate targeting. Unfortunately they seemingly ignore the fact that Palestinian families now have nowhere safe to move to, they've moved, sometimes many times, where do you suggest they go? Gaza is one of the most intensely populated lands on earth. 139 square miles contains almost 2 million people, where the fook do they go, especially when half the area has already been bombed to [is[/ihit?
Israel is a modern, sophisticated democracy, governed by seemingly intelligent people, with sophisticated weaponry available to them. Palestine is also a democracy, although the West now wishes it were not, governed by a bunch of radical nutjobs, armed with the modern equivalent of a blunderbus and a slingshot.
Without wishing to invoke Godwin, I still find it incredible that the Zionists have so quickly forgotten their past, not just the various diasporas and pogroms but also the founder of their own state.
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[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-28630442Is this "balanced" enough?[/url
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Remind me, what happened when David met Goliath?'"
The Jew won. |
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| Quote ="BobbyD"The Jew won.'"
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| Quote ="cod'ead"The site was bombed because the IDF think the Palestinians to be less than animals.'"
Not just the IDF Coddy. The Palestinians are held in contempt by the rest of the Arab world, and are looked upon as a shiftless troublemakers. Fine when it's Israel that they are being a pain to, but a quick check at the last 30 years will show they have been thrown out of every Arab state where the turned up in.
Quote ="cod'ead"The Israeli military and intelligence organisations are very slick and efficient. They possess weaponry that really is capable of pinpoint, accurate targeting. Unfortunately they seemingly ignore the fact that Palestinian families now have nowhere safe to move to, they've moved, sometimes many times, where do you suggest they go? Gaza is one of the most intensely populated lands on earth. 139 square miles contains almost 2 million people, where the fook do they go, especially when half the area has already been bombed to [is[/ihit?'"
Well, I would suggest the obvious answer would be to head over the border to the adjoining state of Egypt, but unfortunately their borders have been closed for ages against their noisy neighbours. Not much Arab solidarity there. In fact, haven't they just sentenced a thousand of the Yasser Arafat's old buddies, the Muslim Brotherhood to death?
Quote ="cod'ead"Israel is a modern, sophisticated democracy, governed by seemingly intelligent people, with sophisticated weaponry available to them. Palestine is also a democracy, although the West now wishes it were not, governed by a bunch of radical nutjobs, armed with the modern equivalent of a blunderbus and a slingshot.'"
But these radical nutjobs were freely elected by the good folk of Gaza, who one presumes, were aware of what they were voting for. And now, the self same inhabitants are suffering the consequences of their brief flirtation with democracy. You might also ponder on the fact that whilst they have been bitching about the lack of food/medical supplies/the good things in life, they managed to acquire enough cement to line and brace the interior of all those tunnels........and all under the eyes of the several thousands of UN employees in Gaza. Remind us again Coddy, just what are the purposes of all those tunnels drilled into Israel?
Quote ="cod'ead"Without wishing to invoke Godwin, I still find it incredible that the Zionists have so quickly forgotten their past, not just the various diasporas and pogroms but also the founder of their own state.'"
I would suggest that it is their past history which drives their very simple maxim of 'never again'
Quote ="cod'ead"Remind me, what happened when David met Goliath?'"
Seriously?  You might want to pick another example.....
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| Quote ="rumpelstiltskin"Live on Sky, a couple of hours into the cease fire Hamas sent a group of terrorists through a tunnel into Israel, and one exploded a suicide vest near some IDF soldiers. the rest grabbed one injured soldier and disappeared back through the tunnel into Gaza.
Time for the Israeli's to level this cesspit, once and for all.'"
Although this actually NEVER happened.
No Israeli Soldier was captured. They just had difficulty finding his body after the IDF blasted the Palestinians and their own soldier,
They have accepted it was a blue on blue.
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It looks like this conflict has claimed its first victim over here, "Lady" Warsi has resigned as a minister because the government's stance on Gaza is 'morally indefensible'. Is it more or less indefensible than government policies that screw over the sick, disabled, poor, all the while inflating the wealth of the rich and their friends in the City.
I think we'll call this new fad "Gaza Hypocrisy"
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| Quote ="100% Wire"It looks like this conflict has claimed its first victim over here, "Lady" Warsi has resigned as a minister because the government's stance on Gaza is 'morally indefensible'. Is it more or less indefensible than government policies that screw over the sick, disabled, poor, all the while inflating the wealth of the rich and their friends in the City.
I think we'll call this new fad "Gaza Hypocrisy"'"
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| Quote ="Dally"She had served her purpose for the Tories - a vociferous female from an ethnic minority to show how they'd modernised! No longer need as the old public schools feel untouchable.'"
So she's the Tory version of Dianne Abbot? A racist with a chip on her shoulder. This kind of thing aggrivates the living sh*t out of me though, where was her resignation over Syria, Libya, Iraq, and you could argue Ukraine too, it seemed the ''west'' were quite involved with destabilising the ELECTED Ukrainian government for it's own gains, which has resulted in the deaths of hundreds of people, a lot of them soldiers and militants of course, but I'm sure the Maylaysia jet and it's 200+ innocent passengers wouldn't have been blown out of the sky were it not for the situation over there. Are some people too blind to see their own hypocrisy?
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| Quote ="100% Wire"It looks like this conflict has claimed its first victim over here, "Lady" Warsi has resigned as a minister because the government's stance on Gaza is 'morally indefensible'. Is it more or less indefensible than government policies that screw over the sick, disabled, poor, all the while inflating the wealth of the rich and their friends in the City.
I think we'll call this new fad "Gaza Hypocrisy"'"
I doubt she'll be missed by many.
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You might want to pick another example.....
