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| Quote ="ROBINSON"What support do you think the Government should offer?'"
See above post.
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"OK, but why aren't management allowed to make mistakes? As I said, no one has the benefit of a crystal ball...'"
No. But that's what management at the highest levels of a company are partly paid for – to be able to see what is coming and deal with it. It's not news, in effect, to see the impact of internet shopping on the retail sector in the UK. So what planning did management put in place to deal with that?
Someone (it might have been you) highlighted how other retail outlets have changed things (in terms of concentrating on different tech, for instance). So managements can look at things and have an idea about the way things are going, and they can do something about it.
Quote ="ROBINSON"And yes, it's to a degree unfair that the workforce have to pay for those mistakes (or an economic downturn, or whatever) with their jobs, but what alternative is there when there is no money to pay for those workers?
It's a simple enough question, and if someone can come up with an answer, then I am all ears.'"
I didn't suggest there was much of an alternative now. The time for good management seems, in this case, to have passed.
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| Comet have been crap for about the last 10 years. They will shortly be consigned to history.
Hopefully some parts of the business will be salvaged and some employees can be transferred to the new owner(s).
I really don't see what this has to do with government, other than the usual trick of some people trying to blame the government for everything.
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"So, you say this is wrong and that's wrong, but you don't have an alternative?
That's what's wrong with this country. People are too quick to criticise, but won't even attempt to fix the problem in favour of just having a whinge.'"
You are just a staw man.
The only way she can fix the problem is by voting for politicians she thinks might be able to do that. In the meantime that doesn't disqualify her or anyone else from commenting on the poor situation we find ourselves in or on the latest government screw up whatever it may be. It's not her fault if one week after the next some ideologically driven bit of policy heaps misery on yet another part of the population.
Asking what alternatives she has or what she would do to fix the country is no argument. It just avoids the issues in the same way you attempt to ignore news if its reported in the Guardian.
If you think the criticism is unjustified say why - not that the criticism itself is wrong. If you can't or won't do that you are just as bad as those you yourself criticise.
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| Quote ="The Video Ref"
I really don't see what this has to do with government, other than the usual trick of some people trying to blame the government for everything.'"
Not one person has said it has, but the usual suspects are claiming we are. Paranoia perhaps
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| Quote ="Mintball"Oh, but we can all be assured that you do, given that that's the sector you work in.
Oh ...'"
I've refrained from being personal, but as you're going that way I feel obliged.
You have your own photo as your avatar, which says more about you than words.
You're hardly unbiased, you think anyone with more than you is somehow getting an unfair advantage, you take great pleasure in taking the moral high ground when all you actually do is repeat other peoples words and thoughts. One day you'll post on a thread without linkig to some "worthy left leaning opinion piece"
I worked at Seven Seas a long time ago (about 15 years, as stated previosuly) and the workforce were inflexible and dogmatic (remind you of anyone)
I have never suggested Hull White Star should just retire to a corner and die, I don't wish anyone ill fortune, but I don't simply subscribe to the rhetoric and falsehoods on here that everything the coalition do is bad, some of it has been awful, some of it has been good, the majority has been unfortunate necessity.
Now, go and be a bully with someone who gives a what you think Mintball, becuase I, along with many others I suspect, am fed up with reading your jaundiced ramblings, I don't know what has happened to you, but I hope you get over it, and yourself, sometime soon.
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| Quote ="Standee"
You have your own photo as your avatar, which says more about you than words.
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Nowt wrong with that, theres no RL Fans law that says you can't
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"No I don't. I don't run the country, nor am I an economist so why would I know how to fix it. I just know the government should be taking more of an interest than they are now.'"
What kind of interest would you like them to take?
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"See above post.'"
I did, and it doesnt make any sense. "Do something, anything" isn't really helpful, is it?
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"What kind of interest would you like them to take?'"
Read Dave O's post. He's put if far better than I ever could.
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| Quote ="Hull White Star"Nowt wrong with that, theres no RL Fans law that says you can't
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Indeed not, but it is only a certain type of poster that chooses to do it, the type of poster who believes everything they say is right, and everyone else who disagrees is wrong.
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| I know a few like that too
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| Quote ="Standee"Indeed not, but it is only a certain type of poster that chooses to do it, the type of poster who believes everything they say is right, and everyone else who disagrees is wrong.'"
Wow, I'd love to see your scientific proof that those who chose to have themselves in their avatar are always right.
I have mine because I presented Danny Houghton with an award at the POTY and I was rather proud I was chosen to do so, not because I think I'm right on an insignificant RL Fans forum. HTH
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| Quote ="Mintball"So, as I said: bad management.
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It's not that simple. The main factor is increased competition. Their decision-making was no doubt (especially in the early days of internet trading) not as good as others. But, even with strong management companies go under - look at the car industry - oversupply.
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| I have seen some bizarre theories on this forum over the years, but to suggest that someone's avatar / picture somehow impacts on their credibility as a poster takes it to the extreme.
Unless, of course, the avatar is a Hull KR badge. In which case the poster can rightly be dismissed as a sub-moronic idiot.
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| Quote ="The Video Ref"I have seen some bizarre theories on this forum over the years, but to suggest that someone's avatar / picture somehow impacts on their credibility as a poster takes it to the extreme.
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We probably won't see Standee for the rest of the afternoon now, as per usual when he doesn't like something he disappears.
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| Quote ="rover49"I listen to Radio 5 a lot when driving around and have noticed that all ConDem politicians only have two answers to questions on the current failing policies
1. 'its because of Labours reckless spending and borrowing'
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That's what politicians do - talk rather than do. The global financial crisis didn't affect us, but Labour's mismanagement did for us. However, the Eurozone crisis overwhelms anything our government do. Our government is on the right-track, even though Michael Heseltine has prepared a report for them saying they are not.
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"I did, and it doesnt make any sense. "Do something, anything" isn't really helpful, is it?'"
In this instance, I think Comet have failed to recognise the direction that retail is going.
They are not alone in that ... and there will will be more to come.
What I would like the government to do is to stop telling us that austerity is the key to our salvation.
Why do I say that? Because it isn't and he has been told over and over again, and the stats are bearing it out, that too much austerity, too soon, will impact GDP and impact growth. He must know that to be the case but still he persists, why? because he's doing it for reasons of dogma rather than economics, that is to say he is dismantling the welfare state becuase he doen't like it.
Osborne has already stopped telling us that the private sector would soak up the human resource that was being released by public bodies ... Why has he stopped saying that? Because it simply isn't doing so, that's why, he had put forward the utterly silly idea that the public sector was hoarding resource that the private sector needed and the truth is now out so he's dropped that line. I don't believe he ever thought it was true anyway.
Is Comet's failure the fault of the government?
No ... but the drop in GDP and disposable income must have accelerated it.
In the case of large companies folding, what would I like the government to do?
Intervene, that's what ... by which I obviously don't mean prop up a dead retaler but get in there with expert assistance to retrain, advise, assist and encourage those becoming unemployed, offer tax breaks for new business start-ups in the right places, move government departments to where the labour is cheaper and where unemployment is high.
They won't do that though, what they will do is lump these obviously lazy, feckless individuals into the bracket of common people who don't deserve any better. Apart from that? ... they'll let the "Big Society" sort it out, which means do absolutely nothing except moan about how is being paid out in benefits.
For you to have a go at HWS is hugely unfair, unless you want her to write the next tory manifesto.
What would YOU want the government to do?
Oh ... and if you decide to respond to this post, please do me the courtesy of actually reading it before replying to something that's not in it.
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| Quote ="Standee"I've refrained from being personal, but as you're going that way I feel obliged.
You have your own photo as your avatar, which says more about you than words...'"
Me and a few other people, eh? Couldn't you have thought of something even a teensy weensy bit more pathetic?
Quote ="Standee"You're hardly unbiased ...'"
As opposed to you. Of course. Who continues to spout factually incorrect rubbish about Labour having spent the country into the financial crisis, because it suits you to hang on to such a myth just as much as religious people hang on to their beliefs, and which attitude you freely rubbish.
Quote ="Standee"... you think anyone with more than you is somehow getting an unfair advantage...'"
This really is the biggest amount of drivel you've posted yet – and that's saying something.
Quote ="Standee"... you take great pleasure in taking the moral high ground when all you actually do is repeat other peoples words and thoughts. One day you'll post on a thread without linkig to some "worthy left leaning opinion piece"'"
What link have I posted here, pray tell? And for goodness sake – the idea that I only post what someone else has said first is taking these fantastical assertions to a new extreme. You might agree with not a single thing I post (and that's absolutely fine), but that suggestion is just plain barking.
Quote ="Standee"I worked at Seven Seas a long time ago (about 15 years, as stated previosuly) and the workforce were inflexible and dogmatic (remind you of anyone)'"
Ah. So 15 years ago equals now? Yes? Wow. That's staggeringly recent and up-to-date knowledge.
Quote ="Standee"I have never suggested Hull White Star should just retire to a corner and die, I don't wish anyone ill fortune, but I don't simply subscribe to the rhetoric and falsehoods on here that everything the coalition do is bad, some of it has been awful, some of it has been good, the majority has been unfortunate necessity...'"
Go and read your posts on this thread alone back to yourself.
Your attitude – or at least the one revealed here – is to tell people off for daring to comment negatively. You've done it before too.
Quote ="Standee"Now, go and be a bully with someone who gives a poop what you think Mintball becuase I, along with many others I suspect, am fed up with reading your jaundiced ramblings, I don't know what has happened to you, but I hope you get over it, and yourself, sometime soon.'"
"Bully?" From you? Oh that's ripe, Standee, that's really ripe. Your hectoring, nasty, abusive posts to various people are okay, eh? No, Standee's posts are all of the highest originality and intellectual thinking – and he's never abusive to people.
If you think I "bully", then you really need to toughen that very thin hide of yours – particularly given the amount that you dish out to others.
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| Quote ="The Video Ref"I have seen some bizarre theories on this forum over the years, but to suggest that someone's avatar / picture somehow impacts on their credibility as a poster takes it to the extreme.
Unless, of course, the avatar is a Hull KR badge. In which case the poster can rightly be dismissed as a sub-moronic idiot.'"
Nicely put.
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| Quote ="Standee"Indeed not, but it is only a certain type of poster that chooses to do it, the type of poster who believes everything they say is right, and everyone else who disagrees is wrong.'"
Truly amazing.
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We probably won't see Standee for the rest of the afternoon now, as per usual when he doesn't like something he disappears.'"
It's called having things to do.
We can't all spend our lives online.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Truly amazing.'"
I'm quite intrigued by the idea that there might be some people here who post things that they don't actually believe. Obviously there are trolls, but who else would do that?
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| Quote ="Standee"It's called having things to do.
We can't all spend our lives online.'"
Hull White Star - 0.67 posts per day
Standee - 9.61 posts per day
Discuss.
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| Anyway, back to the original topic.
What hopes for those who are now out of work or likely to be?
Anyone had the chance to read Heseltine's proposals on promoting growth?
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