This bloke who has ‘allegedly’ shot the WPC’s was heading for a death penalty if he hadn’t handed himself in, IMO.

You might have actually changed my mind on the subject.

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Do you think the law would have found him?
Doesn't appear they'd been very successful in locating him prior to this weeks events.

Offences for which the death penalty shuld be introduced, IMO:

- pre-meditated murder
- murder of a police office going about their duties
- paedophilia
- persistent crimininality resulting from Class A drug use (but only after 3 relapses after being given assistance by the State to stop using drugs)

After the shocking events of this week, I think they may well have intensified the search a tad

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So a drug addict who burgled 3 houses should be executed?
Why is a Police Officer's life more valuable than anyone else?

I concur.

If the geezer being presently detained had gone on the run, Greater Manny Police might have drafted a negotiator in?

I there another type of murder?

Please dont say death by choclate too

Isn't all murder premeditated?



Wouldn't that fall under the first category, above?



Yeah, good call. We should also execute alcoholics and the mentally ill.

Yeah, our Justice system is so perfect that no innocents will be wrongly found guilty.
I mean, it's never happened yet has it?

How do you propose to un-hang someone?
Or are innocent deaths worth it?

Your last point about class A drugs, in which you fail to mention what degree of ciminality would count towards the three-counts-and-you're-literally-dead, is an absolute sparkler of an unthought-out knee-jerk.

You are always banging on about morality and suchlike, yet killing people seems to be OK by you.

Only if you work for the Met.

Would that mean its OK to kill them on there tea break ?

It's polite to reference a direct quote

Not if there is an odd number of people, it doesn't.

Cregan only has one so it may even it up.

I honestly didn't think there was an argument in the world that could persuade me to support the death penalty, but you seem to have found one

I'm still waiting for Dally to explain why murdering Mr Plod is more worthy of state sponsored murder than - for example - the killing of a scientist?

1. No.
2. See 1 above.
3. Drinking alcohol is not illegal, taking drugs is. A mentally ill person is deemed not to murder.

Are you an imbecile? Police officers could be murdered whilst off duty by someone not aware they were a police officer.

What about plain clothes police officers? If you murdered one of those you could argue you didn't know they were a police officer or on duty. I presume you would want the perpetrator executed whereas if he topped the self same officer five minutes after he clocked off (unaware they were a police officer due to the plain clothes) its just life?

or a retired copper, or if a copper killed a copper?

what about if a traffic cop got killed by a member of MI6?

the thought that someone choosing a profession makes them a more worthwhile person abhors me.

what if a Vicar shot a copper for having an affair with his wife, who was QC?

it's bat lunacy, again.

Spot on.

maybe we should let the Yorkshire Ripper out, he "only" murdered prostitutes afterall?

Not strictly true.

But thats probably why West Yorks Police didn't persue him too hard in the 1970s, until he started the 80s off with "decent" girls.

For someone to be found guilty of murder, it has to be shown that they acted 'with intent to kill or cause grievous bodily harm'. I'd say that constituted being premeditated.



See 1 above.



What difference does it make if the drug is illegal. Your reason for executing the addicts was 'persistent criminality', so why not execute 'persistently criminal' alcoholics, too? That's before we even examine the reasons a person might be addicted to Class A drugs. Heroin, to take one example, is addictive from the first use. There are any number of reasons a person might take that first hit, and after that, they're a slave to the drug. Are you really suggesting we should execute people for making one dumb choice that results in their addiction to heroin?



But you never mentioned murder in your third point. You said 'persistent criminality as a result of Class A drug use'. If a person with mental illness behaves in a criminal manner, we (should) try to offer treatment for their illness and help to integrate back into society, not stick them in an electric chair. Surely the same consideration should be offered to drug addicts?