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| Quote ="rhino phil"and radiometric date places the earth age at 4.5billion years. Please tell me you accept darwinian theory of evolution instead of some garden of eden fairy story'"
I'm aware of that, but science is yet to reconcile itself with scripture.
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| Quote ="rhino phil"this is a first class piece of trolling or mickey taking'"
Starting to think you're right. Blimey.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"I come up against this argument a lot. Do you think God would disagree with Christians saying theft or murder is wrong? No, he wouldn't. Sin is sin. Loving thy neighbour is doing as you would be done. I would hope my fellow brothers would strive to correct me if I were sinning'" .
Its against the law to rape and murder, its not against the law to be in a same sex relationship and last time I checked the country is run by British Law not the Bible.
Quote ="kirkstaller"I agree, freedom of speech is important. However I reserve the right to admonish those who abuse it to libel my viewpoint.'"
No one has libeled anyone. You have come on here and posted a petition you want to share. Thats great. We have the right to counter argue that and I have the same rights as you because hey, we don't descriminate.
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A counter-petition exists. It has in the region of ~25,000 signatories. So who is in the minority?'"
People don't give two hoots about gay marriage, thats why.
Quote ="kirkstaller"You will have you marriage labelled as being the same as a plainly sinful union. '"
No disrespect, I will never ridicule your beliefs, I believe you have every right to your them and I respect that, but I don't live my life according to the bible so my marriage will not be labelled as being sinful, especially not by me or my husband and those are the two people who really count.
Quote ="kirkstaller"Again, you're getting hooked up on discrimination. I believe same-sex relations to be wrong. Do you think society discriminates against murderers or rapists by sending them to prison? '"
I am getting hooked on discrimination because it IS discrimination. Again, rapists and murderers have committed a crime according to British Law (and most of the World). Loving someone who loves you back wholeheartdly is not a crime according to British Law.
Quote ="kirkstaller"That is your prerogative. I can but share the Good News.'"
Yes, please share your news to the whole world, Hull White Star is not a bigot!! I still can't understand why you are so bothered in other peoples affairs when there is so much more going on in the world today to get angry about. Nobody is hurting[i you[/i, nobody is raping or murdering [iyou[/i, so why can't you just let people get on with their lives without interference?
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Gay site tries to debase majority opinion shock!'"
Religious nutter site in massaging the figures shock.
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| I seem to remember from church and RE at school that Jesus said
"love one another as I have loved you"
Yet a load of people calling themselves followers of Jesus seem to think that can be reduced to loving the ones you approve of and feck everyone else, even going to the lengths of discriminating against the latter.
Gandhi had it right and the OP should be ashamed.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Gay site tries to debase majority opinion shock!'"
So rather than show why pink news was wrong you merely dismiss it because it is a gay site. Perhaps you would like to explain why they have manged to get 400,000 signatures from 56,000 unique visitors some of which I know for a fact (I was one of them) have visited the site with no intention of signing such a bigotted petition. It looks like the homophobes in charge of the petition have been guilty of lying for jesus.
Your comments comparing gay marriage to murder and rape demonstrate just how morally reprehensible an individual you really are. Even the high profile clergy who oppose equality for gay people stop short of holding such repugnant views as comparing gay people to murderers.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"I'm aware of that, but science is yet to reconcile itself with scripture.'"
Science has also to reconcile itself with The Hobbit and Game of Thrones too.
What is your point?
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| Why are people still biting? He's clearly on a wind up.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"That doesn't matter. If a convicted drug-dealer says he doesn't believe in prison, does that make the punishment go away?
That is the very definition of self-righteousness.
My faith is firmly grounded in the Pentecost and the early church.
Including me, but being a beautiful concept does not make it real.'"
You seem to have quoted me and not Supportplay. Its very fortunate we share the same views. We also share the same house, same bed and other things I don't want to go into on here
You seem to be very confused over what is law and what is legal in this country. Oh, heaven forbid you should ever meet a gay murderer
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| Quote ="Hull White Star".
Its against the law to rape and murder, its not against the law to be in a same sex relationship and last time I checked the country is run by British Law not the Bible.'"
All 3 are against God's law, and for good reason.
Quote ="Hull White Star".People don't give two hoots about gay marriage, thats why.'"
So which is it? 69.5 million against or 25,000?
Quote ="Hull White Star".No disrespect, I will never ridicule your beliefs, I believe you have every right to your them and I respect that, but I don't live my life according to the bible so my marriage will not be labelled as being sinful, especially not by me or my husband and those are the two people who really count.'"
Why would I consider your marriage sinful?
Quote ="Hull White Star".I am getting hooked on discrimination because it IS discrimination. Again, rapists and murderers have committed a crime according to British Law (and most of the World). Loving someone who loves you back wholeheartdly is not a crime according to British Law.'"
Again, according to God it is wrong.
Quote ="Hull White Star".Yes, please share your news to the whole world, Hull White Star is not a bigot!! I still can't understand why you are so bothered in other peoples affairs when there is so much more going on in the world today to get angry about. Nobody is hurting[i you[/i, nobody is raping or murdering [iyou[/i, so why can't you just let people get on with their lives without interference?'"
If you really are interested in hearing the good news then PM me
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Why would I consider your marriage sinful?'"
She might not have married in church?
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| Quote ="Chris28"She might not have married in church?'"
That is not sinful per se.
My view of civil, non-Christian marriages is that at least they are doing the right thing the wrong way.
Same-sex marriage is doing the wrong thing the wrong way.
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| I'm giving up. You're a hater and haters hate.
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| Quote ="Chris28"I'm giving up. You're a hater and haters hate.'"
I don't hate anyone.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"All 3 are against God's law, and for good reason.'"
One involves acts which take place between consenting adults which affect nobody else and the other two involve doing clear harm against another individual who has not given their consent be be raped or murdered.
Your particular religious doctrine may not recognise the difference, however in a tolerent modern society such as the UK most people can clearly see the difference between acts taking place consisting of consenting adults which do no harm to anyone else and acts which cause harm to others. If your religious doctrine can not distinguish between the two then so much for your religious doctrine.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"I'm aware of that, but science is yet to reconcile itself with scripture.'"
Science is fact. The Bible is just a book written many, many years ago that needs to change through time but cannot therefore, to me, it's a fairytale just like Hansel and Gretel and many other books.
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| Kirkstaller is not a troll, i've seen his/her views before.
He's trying to use the old scripture v science debate all over again, what he means is he will only accept science when it agrees with scripture.
I only hope he/she doesn't eat seafood.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Kirkstaller is not a troll, i've seen his/her views before.
He's trying to use the old scripture v science debate all over again, what he means is he will only accept science when it agrees with scripture.
I only hope he/she doesn't eat seafood.'"
Science will never agree with scripture so he's wasting his time.
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| Quote ="Dead Man Walking"Science will never agree with scripture so he's wasting his time.'"
And that's the point.
That way their pointless, bigoted book can always be justified for them.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"And that's the point.
That way their pointless, bigoted book can always be justified for them.'"
I agree with you.
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| Please don't dismiss people with views like this as trolls, they are much more seditious than that.
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| Quote ="kirkstaller"Both are acts which condemn us to Hell. Sin is sin.'"
Thanks for posting this it's just helped my confirmation that you should be filed in the idiot box and are in fact 'not all there'.
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| Kirkstaller... You really believe this stuff don't you?
I respect you for that, and for sticking to your guns, but I can never accept that you are anywhere near right on this subject. It's just a shame you can't see how bigotted you are.
I'll not be signing the petition, I did go and look (which means I'm another 'unique visitor' that hasn't signed) and while I admire the emotive use of language there, anyone with half a brain (ie, twice as much as most of those who've signed it), it can be taken to pieces too easily to be a challenge.
I just feel sorry for you and others of your kin when you die and the lights go out for the last time, and you discover that there is nothing beyond. I'd hate to die being that disappointed.
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