We can but hope.

Where did I say it's the biggest problem we face? Really poor attempt at deflection. Its hilarious reading the left leaning reaction to the simple conclusion that has to be drawn that, in this situation, Starmer was hypocritical.
Why can't you accept that without trying to deflect it?

I honestly didn't know he was there, hence the comment in reply to happyjack.
You may be surprised to know that I dont follow his movements but, Im pleased that your outraged by his actions, really pleased

Lol talking about deflection in a thread that is basically 48 pages of champagne socialist deflection and whataboutery

There you go again putting words in my mouth ie making things up. I'm not outraged, it's what I would expect from a champagne socialist like Starmer.

How does one get some of this famed champagne? If a lad from a working class background like Starmer is swimming in the stuff it sounds like it's a free for all.

That's probably why he's swimming in it cos it's free and he shows his face in the right places.

You mean like visiting those families with relatives lost to Covid which Johnson constantly promises to do but so far has failed to do so.

Starmer has had enough ammunition gift boxed to him by the Tories over the last 18 months.

He has failed to do anything proper, except given the Tories more popularity.

Aldi do a nice one

Now that the tories lead is even greater how do Labour come back from this?

From a narrow Labour perspective the key elements are probably getting some more recognisable figures off select committees and on the front bench as the election approaches, and hoping that the joke of Johnson wears thin too late for the Tories to switch.

From a broader hope for the nation’s future POV, then maybe we (the very loose anti-Johnsonian alliance) have to accept there is no single solution that will suit us all, whatever our political priorities are. There has always been dishonesty and incompetence and nastiness in government - but it was at least seen as something to decry and resist. Allowing Johnsonian government, intentionally or not, means giving up on this country, imo. It is that serious. So all intelligent people of good political conscience need to think about what can be done to remove him before they focus on anything else. None of the things that decent people want, from across the political spectrum (market capitalists, social democrats, environmentalists, Celtic nationalists or unionists, fiscal and/or traditional one-nation Conservatives, egalitarians, liberals… anybody) can happen until he is gone.

There you go, he’s at the challenge cup final, proper northern man of the people

I wonder who would be the first and it was you. What you should be asking why isn’t Boris there because he loves the north apparently.

I wonder who would be the first to defend him on here and it was you

Boris will be too busy putting the needs of the country first than free loading like your mate, I notice the beeb only showed him the once, probably not too photogenic, tbf he's not got a lot to smile about.

Wasn't sure if it was Starmer or his gogglebox look alike.

I thought who would be so gullible to believe Johnson cares about anything other than himself and I thought of you. I guess Starmer doesn’t use tax payers money to fund a personal photographer to take those posed photographs of Johnson looking more like a scarecrow than a human.

There you go, guessing again

Appear to have stumbled into a primary school playground.

And why does RL attract so many of Johnson’s useful idiots?

Well Momentum still making Starmers job difficult, can he get rid of their and other loony leftists influence to give Labour a fighting chance at the next election

Labour will never win another election. Ever.

You will still get these socialist soaks voting for whoever leads them coz it's Labour innit

Keir ''It's Not Right To Say That Women Have A Cervix'' Starmer

Aye the Labour party is moving so far away from the ordinary working man it's untrue


No doubt the socialist soaks will be on to defend him though and give us some Boris whataboutery

He's got a ways to go to be as bad as Jo Swinson being unable to describe what a woman is